Around Baseball 2019

[Amok]

The issue with the Jays doing a trade with Cleveland is they are looking for closer to major league ready prospects. Dodgers have a good system plus close to major league prospects. You never know if rumors are true but the Dodgers are talking Lux (2nd in the top 100) and/or May (32nd). Both are ready now and very very good. I am a big fan of Groshan but is he too far from the majors for the Indians? Unless we trade from the major league roster can we beat the Dodgers? It is either Pearson or Groshan plus Jansen/Biggio/Gurriel.

[BTS]

Gio Gonzalez to CWS. Another one in the "thank god its not us" bin.

[jerb]

 

Jeff Passan

@JeffPassan

 

Right-hander Julio Teheran and the Los Angeles Angels are in agreement on a one-year contract, a source familiar with the deal tells ESPN.

[Laika]

Yeah, it's like an 81-82 win team that costs like 110M with no real long term commitments but Ryu and a still loaded farm. Could make other additions to push it to 84-85 wins.

 

I don't know if the farm would still be loaded. It would take a few big bullets to land Clevinger.

 

Honestly, not sure it makes sense. Seems like a bit of a Padres thing to do.

[Brownie19]

 

Jeff Passan

@JeffPassan

 

Right-hander Julio Teheran and the Los Angeles Angels are in agreement on a one-year contract, a source familiar with the deal tells ESPN.

 

Thank god.

[glory]

[Orgfiller]

Teheran gets $9MM guaranteed for his one year deal, which seems like a lot of money for him if you go by FIP-based WAR, but potentially a steal if you go by RA9-WAR. Fascinating case, and we've all defended Chase Anderson here in on way or another for being a similar type of pitcher who appears to outperform his DIPS.

[Laika]

Teheran gets $9MM guaranteed for his one year deal, which seems like a lot of money for him if you go by FIP-based WAR, but potentially a steal if you go by RA9-WAR. Fascinating case, and we've all defended Chase Anderson here in on way or another for being a similar type of pitcher who appears to outperform his DIPS.

 

Teheran is probably slightly preferable to Anderson considering age and upside, but Anderson has two years of control at the price point so he might be a slightly better asset than Teheran. Hmmmm.

[BTS]

The Angels don't even have a bad rotation anymore if Ohtani can stay healthy. Heaney, Bundy, Teheran, and Canning are all solid average pitchers, and there's upside beyond that. And guys like Pena, Barria and Suarez are all interesting depth guys.

 

- cut Pujols

- sign a catcher to partner with Stassi

- find 2-win options at 1B and RF

- add a couple value bullpen arms

- win 90 games

[Laika]

The Angels don't even have a bad rotation anymore if Ohtani can stay healthy. Heaney, Bundy, Teheran, and Canning are all solid average pitchers, and there's upside beyond that. And guys like Pena, Barria and Suarez are all interesting depth guys.

 

- cut Pujols

- sign a catcher to partner with Stassi

- find 2-win options at 1B and RF

- add a couple value bullpen arms

- win 90 games

 

They have Jo Adell to take over RF.

 

They could just bench Pujols 2/3 of the time. Tommy La Stella somehow is now a 2 win player?

 

Patrick Sandoval is also pretty good.

 

They should acquire Kenneth Giles for, say, Brandon Marsh.

[Spanky99]

Official deets on the Smoak contract:

 

 

I wish Smoaky the best, always liked his quiet professional approach to the game, great humble guy. I would've been happy with Smoak for that.

[Spanky99]

They're asking large for Clevinger, f*** that. That'd be Pearson, Groshans + Edited December 19, 2019 by Spanky99

[Spanky99]

Atkins said earlier in the offseason that Teoscar was working out at 1B. If the idea truly is to move him there, that might be why the team hasn't exactly jumped on any of the current FA options. And if Teoscar can play the position even passably, I think I'd prefer him over any of the other internal options.

 

Yeah, the extra roster spot opens up plenty options as Bobthe4th suggested you can move him through 1B/DH/CF, if Alford has a good Spring I could see him making this team to use that flexibility too.

[Spanky99]

MLBPA filed grievance on behalf of Ellsbury...

 

https://apnews.com/533c7b1eefe13a47d95a5db63439650a

[Deadpool]

MLBPA filed grievance on behalf of Ellsbury...

 

https://apnews.com/533c7b1eefe13a47d95a5db63439650a

 

Good, I hope the Yankees lose that badly, what an awful precedent that would set.

[Daniel Labude]

Indians listening on Clevinger. Get it done, Shatkins.

 

Groshans, Moreno, SWR, Conine for Clevinger. Sign Ryu. At the end of the year we have

 

Clevinger

Ryu

Anderson

Pearson

Borucki

[Krylian]

Groshans, Moreno, SWR, Conine for Clevinger. Sign Ryu. At the end of the year we have

 

Clevinger

Ryu

Anderson

Pearson

Borucki

 

No.

 

That's the kind of deal you make (moving high end prospects) when you're a contender with an already established core...but the Jays are nowhere near that.

[Abomination]

Good, I hope the Yankees lose that badly, what an awful precedent that would set.

 

The Yankees should get penalized 50% extra just for attempting that bs.

[G-Snarls]

Good, I hope the Yankees lose that badly, what an awful precedent that would set.

 

Are the Mets/Cespedes reducing his salary via internal nogotiations or did they try something like this too?

[Abomination]

Are the Mets/Cespedes reducing his salary via internal nogotiations or did they try something like this too?

 

Didn't Cespedes do something that was directly forbidden in his contract? That seems a lot more defensible than a team not giving you medical help, so you sought it out on your own.

[Spanky99]

Are the Mets/Cespedes reducing his salary via internal nogotiations or did they try something like this too?

 

Sort of, Mets had a legitimate reason, he fell off his horse and mashed his ankle while he was recovering from dual heel surgeries, while on the IR, lol. They restructured his deal in agreement.

 

The Yankees are quite different in giving Ellsbury the f*** you to stall the money, they have to pay him. It's so bush league.

[saskjayfan]

So what did Gio sign for? Any contract details yet?

[Spanky99]

So what did Gio sign for? Any contract details yet?

 

Nope.

[Daniel Labude]

No.

 

That's the kind of deal you make (moving high end prospects) when you're a contender with an already established core...but the Jays are nowhere near that.

 

You dont think we would be contenders if we did that lmao

[Spanky99]

You dont think we would be contenders if we did that lmao

 

He didn't say that.

[G-Snarls]

The Indians have informed clubs that have pursued Lindor that they want their “best and final offers so they can make an assessment over the weekend,” Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic writes

[Laika]

The Indians have informed clubs that have pursued Lindor that they want their “best and final offers so they can make an assessment over the weekend,” Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic writes

 

Wow, seems like he's moving.

 

I don't see why the Dodgers would sacrifice their future to make a Lindor move. With Seager, Turner, Muncy, and Lux, they have a strongly projected infield already and good depth.

 

Of the rumoured to be interested teams he would mean the most to the Reds. Lindor would be a 5+ win upgrade for them and it would significantly increase their playoff chances given their position on the win curve. I wonder if the Reds could make it happen without giving up Senzel. Jonathan India + Tyler Stephenson + some other good piece.

[glory]

The Reds don't mind trading top prospects so that seems like the best spot to trade Lindor.

[BTS]

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/which-types-of-teams-are-signing-free-agents/#comments

 

The first comment in response to this bad article is savage:

 

"Ben, more great work. I love the way you manipulated statistics in search of narrative support- a real lesson for all of us. Sometimes the data are what the data are…"

[Laika]

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/which-types-of-teams-are-signing-free-agents/#comments

 

The first comment in response to this bad article is savage:

 

"Ben, more great work. I love the way you manipulated statistics in search of narrative support- a real lesson for all of us. Sometimes the data are what the data are…"

 

I see you did not read the article.

 

Mr. Benjamin Clemens starts with a hypothesis that free agency is different - the narrative in his first sentence. He then falsifies that narrative in numerous ways. The conclusion is that the narrative is not true. His last paragraph is a bit weird, sure.

 

The comment is not sarcastic.