General 2019 Blue Jays Discussion Thread

[glory]

I’m still a believer in Alford. Not as much as I was after 2017 but I’m willing to give him a pass for 2018. This is his year to win the CF job.

[Spanky99]

I’m still a believer in Alford. Not as much as I was after 2017 but I’m willing to give him a pass for 2018. This is his year to win the CF job.

 

I'm more a believer by his 2nd half, AFL and ST?

[BlueRocky]

I’m with you on giving Biggio a chance this year, but not until he shows he’s done with AAA. Yeah he’s a few years older than Bo and Vlad so we’re not in that conversation of manipulating his service time, by the end of 6 years he’s around 30.

 

I love his walk rate, and his homerun power. He’s a valuable left handed bat & He’s likely a 2B/1B/LF kind of utility player, probably slightly less wild than Gurriel defensively.

 

Once he shows good progress in Buffalo I expect a callup mid summer, maybe post-trade deadline, or if someone gets hurt. All else fails he gets here in september.

 

I don't think Gurriel is necessarily blocking anybody. I do think there will be another round of house cleaning in July trade deadline and a lot of playing time will open up organically rather than forcing the issue. By that time we have some AAA plate appearances to look at and evaluate if he’s ready for the majors.

[Abomination]

Yeah he’s a few years older than Bo and Vlad so we’re not in that conversation of manipulating his service time, by the end of 6 years he’s around 30.

 

What does that have to do with anything? You manipulate service time to gain an extra year of control for which you're (probably) underpaying the player. Doesn't matter whether he's 25 after those 6 years or 30+.

[Brownie19]

Where's Biggio playing defensively in AAA?

[Pendleton]

I’m with you on giving Biggio a chance this year, but not until he shows he’s done with AAA. Yeah he’s a few years older than Bo and Vlad so we’re not in that conversation of manipulating his service time, by the end of 6 years he’s around 30.

 

I love his walk rate, and his homerun power. He’s a valuable left handed bat & He’s likely a 2B/1B/LF kind of utility player, probably slightly less wild than Gurriel defensively.

 

Once he shows good progress in Buffalo I expect a callup mid summer, maybe post-trade deadline, or if someone gets hurt. All else fails he gets here in september.

 

I don't think Gurriel is necessarily blocking anybody. I do think there will be another round of house cleaning in July trade deadline and a lot of playing time will open up organically rather than forcing the issue. By that time we have some AAA plate appearances to look at and evaluate if he’s ready for the majors.

 

You'll have to explain why you think protecting service time is any less beneficial when a prospect happens to be older.

[Olerud363]

You'll have to explain why you think protecting service time is any less beneficial when a prospect happens to be older.

 

Because you want to get age 23-29 of a super star.

 

With Valddy you are taking age 19/20 in exchange for a future age 26/27

With Biggio you are taking age 24 for age 30. Who knows which one is better. Biggio also is probably more likely to sign a cheaper extension if he reaches like Grichuk level.

 

Also Vlads age 27 may cost and be worth 50 million, while Biggios age 30 may cost and be worth 15-20 million

[saskjayfan]

It doesn't serve the Jays well at all to shove Biggio past AAA. If he hits well this season, he will be up later this season.

 

Your beef is bizarre.

 

 

ha ha...You're right...painstaking losses mixed with alcohol can bring out the irrational. It's easy to want to push the fast forward button on guys who actually have plate discipline to replace those who don't. I hope Biggio, Bichette, Alford all have great starts and can force their way on to the roster at some point this year. I can capitulate somewhat.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

It doesn't serve the Jays well at all to shove Biggio past AAA. If he hits well this season, he will be up later this season.

 

Your beef is bizarre.

 

Logic would then say that then that Vlad and

Bo also would benifit long term to stay Down

In AAA as well !!! No need to Rush them either to the Show !!!

 

To Build a Winning Culture , one needs to first learn how to win and win !!! It is a Skill and a Mindset of a winning culture !!!

 

Develop it !!! I Think Both our MLB and Minor league teams benefit greater by both our Triple A and Double A winning games , Divisions and Championships before the get to the Show ! Sorta a been there , done that

Approach ... Not the First time at the Rodeo!

 

If you go on the field expecting to Win ..

You have greater chance to win !!!

 

If you go on the field expecting to be competitive... you might win a few !!!

 

If you go on the Field expecting to lose...

You more then likely ummm lose !!!

 

What the Mind can Conceive and Believe

It Can Achieve !!!

 

Develop Winners and you Win !!!!

[glory]

The Jays won't manipulate service time with Biggio. He's not the best prospect in baseball like Vlad is, or a top 10 in baseball like Bichette. He'll be up mid season as long as he's hitting well in AAA. Same with Alford.

 

What they do with Bichette will be more interesting to see. They have Galvis locked up for the year with an option for next year so if he's doing well they could trade him, or they could keep him and use him as an excuse to wait until 2 weeks into April 2020 to call up Bo.

 

With the way young players are signing extensions nowadays, the Jays can afford to be a bit more aggressive with promotions if the prospects are earning it. Bo will be hard to sign but doable. Call him up this year if he's earned it and then work on an extension that covers his 20's in the winter.

Edited April 5, 2019 by glory

[EastCoaster]

Not sure why they don't move Tellez to 1B and have Hernandez at DH, but ho hum.

 

Because Tellez doesn't have the greatest set of hands or feet on a ballplayer. Sanchez is ground ball pitcher Gurriel is good fielder plus he had played some 1 base in Cuba so it gives Montoyo some options and it gets him to know his players better. There will come a day when he has to send someone down when guys comeback from injuries plus when Guerrero is called up cause Drury isn't going nowhere so the more versatile you can be on the field better chance you've got of sticking with the big club.

[Pendleton]

Because you want to get age 23-29 of a super star.

 

With Valddy you are taking age 19/20 in exchange for a future age 26/27

With Biggio you are taking age 24 for age 30. Who knows which one is better. Biggio also is probably more likely to sign a cheaper extension if he reaches like Grichuk level.

 

Also Vlads age 27 may cost and be worth 50 million, while Biggios age 30 may cost and be worth 15-20 million

 

It's more important with Vlad because he's a much better prospect. All I'm saying is that it's still beneficial having team control over a player who happens to be a bit older.

 

I think the importance of protecting service time is a lot more tied to the value you think you can accrue during said time, and has nothing at all to do with the player's current age.

Edited April 5, 2019 by Pendleton

[z3r0s]

lol

 

[TheHurl]

I was just coming here to post that.

[Brownie19]

Clay Buchholz (forearm) will begin a rehab assignment with Triple-A Buffalo on Sunday.

That's assuming the weather is okay. Buchholz will throw around 75 pitches Sunday and if it goes well he will likely join the Blue Jays' rotation after that.

[Pendleton]

[Sorrow]

I'd buy that shirt.

[Pendleton]

I'd buy that shirt.

 

https://rotowear.com/products/literally-us-t-shirt

[Omar]

[Deadpool]

 

My favourite player growing up in the 80s. Had his poster on my wall and everything! Best Rule 5 pick in franchise history, hands down.

[EastCoaster]

In past few years for this team Devon Travis is the only player that we can truely say had the potential of being a true leadoff hitter for the Blue Jays. Many different players have tried the leadoff spot with no success unfortunately he's been injury prone and having knee issues playing on the turf might not the best for his career. Trading him isn't ideal for the Blue Jays with his value being so low they need to play him to see if he can become that .300 hitter that he once was at the beginning of his career.

[jays4life19]

What did you have for breakfast this morning?

[Pendleton]

What did you have for breakfast this morning?

 

Large French Vanilla

[jays4life19]

Damn Pendleton, you love your French Vanilla coffees

[Carlos Danger]

In past few years for this team Devon Travis is the only player that we can truely say had the potential of being a true leadoff hitter for the Blue Jays. Many different players have tried the leadoff spot with no success unfortunately he's been injury prone and having knee issues playing on the turf might not the best for his career. Trading him isn't ideal for the Blue Jays with his value being so low they need to play him to see if he can become that .300 hitter that he once was at the beginning of his career.

 

He played more games last year then at any point in his ML history.. And he sucked.. He offence does not make up for his horrible D and he was not the Travis of 2015, 2016..

[Corporal Valdal]

He may never play again!

[Jimcanuck]

What did you have for breakfast this morning?

 

Made breakfast for 7. Sausages, eggs, bagels, strawberries, melon, OJ, coffee, tea

[Pendleton]

Damn Pendleton, you love your French Vanilla coffees

 

Cappuccino

[jays4life19]

Cappuccino

 

my bad.

[jays4life19]

Made breakfast for 7. Sausages, eggs, bagels, strawberries, melon, OJ, coffee, tea

 

You should try French Vanilla.