General 2019 Blue Jays Discussion Thread

[flafson]

Not sure why would we trade him, I understand we have a surplus there but he’s a good young player.

[BTS]

Are there any international players left that are worth signing with this year’s pool money?

[BTS]

Not sure why would we trade him, I understand we have a surplus there but he’s a good young player.

 

We needed to clear a 40-man spot, so it was him, Pompey, or Davis getting the boot. Getting 500k is a great return given the circumstances if there’s anyone worth signing.

[glory]

I might be off base but isn’t that a pretty big amount of intl money for a fringe big league outfielder who doesn’t really do anything well? Unless I’m underrating Smith Jr.

 

Either way good move. Gaining a 40 man spot plus international dough is sweet.

[metafour]

Not sure why would we trade him, I understand we have a surplus there but he’s a good young player.

 

Good young player...you mean a corner outfielder with average speed and forgettable power, who can't play CF? So a guy who has no real place here, and is a 4th outfielder type anyway?

 

Really?

[P2F]

Are there any international players left that are worth signing with this year’s pool money?

 

Yolbert Sanchez.

[Orgfiller]

Not sure why would we trade him, I understand we have a surplus there but he’s a good young player.

 

He's really not a good young player at all. Average hitter at best that doesn't provide anything with baserunning or defense from a corner, and isn't young enough to care about a potential breakout. He's barely above replacement level at best.

[P2F]

Not sure why would we trade him, I understand we have a surplus there but he’s a good young player.

 

He was recently DFA'd.

[P2F]

Are there any international players left that are worth signing with this year’s pool money?

 

There are still two players left unsigned from BA's Top 50:

 

34. Fernando Villalobos, C

45. Jose Bonilla, SS

 

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/where-the-top-50-mlb-international-prospects-have-agreed-to-sign/

[Ehjays]

Geezus the O's actually gave us $500k in international bonus money for him.

 

 

Can you carry over money at year end??

 

This is the third trade the Orioles have done with their International Spending in the last few weeks

[P2F]

Can you carry over money at year end??

 

This is the third trade the Orioles have done with their International Spending in the last few weeks

 

You can't carry money over.

[Krylian]

Do we know that it's 2018 international money that the Jays traded for or are they setting themselves up for July 2nd?

[L54]

Great trade!

[Spanky99]

We need some Spats reports

 

I don't think he's there yet. IIRC, he said Mid-March and was going to stay further into September.

[Slade]

Do we know that it's 2018 international money that the Jays traded for or are they setting themselves up for July 2nd?

 

I've asked around on twitter but nobody seems to know. That's a lot of money if it's for 2019 J2.

[Todd]

The guy is right you can not carry money over.

[Dick_Pole]

Ok, I never really had an issue with shifts and all that, and maybe I'm getting into "get off my lawn" territory, but I kinda miss the game when everyone played their position and relievers were not spammed as much as they are, etc.

 

Good that the Jays are doing it, Gibby was probably too old school to implement all of this stuff and we need to stay ahead of the curve, but there's still some old school in me, I guess.

 

I agree. There’s a reason why basketball doesn’t let you park some giant in front of the rim, it’s not within the spirit of the game. I embrace a lot of the forward thinking in baseball, but at some point the game has a purity to it that I don’t want to see disrupted. Having four players acting as infielders should be a rule, not a suggestion.

 

Meh. I find defensive shifts to be an interesting novelty, though I get that the novelty is wearing off from their greater use. The shortstop position was originally in the shallow infield in the 19th century so if anything they are returning back to baseball's routes with this particular shift. Agreed about the relievers.

 

Also, Manute Bol. The reason why it doesn't happen in the NBA anymore is that no team can afford to have an 8 foot tall 180 pound non-athlete with no offensive skill on the court just for 5 blocks a game. A dude that size with offensive skill would absolutely be used for that purpose within the 3 second violation rule.

[flafson]

He was recently DFA'd.

 

I guess that changes my perspective on him...

But in general my sense of him was a young guy that looks like he can hit the ball.

Hitting/power are the hardest tools to find so that makes him valuable.

If the team decided to DFA him then getting something out of nothing is clearly a win.

[Laika]

We finally got a good look at Elvis Luciano today. Notes:

 

- Sat 96/97 on the stadium gun

- Fastball has a bit of run

- He was just a thrower with the FB; really had no idea where it was going although he did incidentally paint one for a K

- Showed no feel for offspeed pitches at all

- One strikeout on a hanging breaking ball

- Gave up two homers on what appeared to be really bad changeups or cement mixer sliders

- Mickey Moniak sucks

[saskjayfan]

We finally got a good look at Elvis Luciano today. Notes:

 

- Sat 96/97 on the stadium gun

- Fastball has a bit of run

- He was just a thrower with the FB; really had no idea where it was going although he did incidentally paint one for a K

- Showed no feel for offspeed pitches at all

- One strikeout on a hanging breaking ball

- Gave up two homers on what appeared to be really bad changeups or cement mixer sliders

- Mickey Moniak sucks

 

He’s 19. You expected a finished product? He’s still going to stick.

[Jimcanuck]

He’s 19. You expected a finished product? He’s still going to stick.

 

Where did he say thats what he expected?

[Captain Adama]

Where did he say thats what he expected?

 

It should be reasonably expected he's not going to "stick."

 

Like, chances are, he's going to suck.

[Jimcanuck]

It should be reasonably expected he's not going to "stick."

 

Like, chances are, he's going to suck.

 

Agreed but that's not the point.

[tercet]

We finally got a good look at Elvis Luciano today. Notes:

 

- Sat 96/97 on the stadium gun

- Fastball has a bit of run

- He was just a thrower with the FB; really had no idea where it was going although he did incidentally paint one for a K

- Showed no feel for offspeed pitches at all

- One strikeout on a hanging breaking ball

- Gave up two homers on what appeared to be really bad changeups or cement mixer sliders

- Mickey Moniak sucks

 

Seems about right, his fbs were mostly in the strike zone, but missing catchers location way too often, but better fb command/control then random AAAA guys like SRF.

Call me crazy but id still prob let him make the team.

[tercet]

Anyone have an idea of all of the pitches Alford has hit HRs over the last few days? The 2 ones today were on mistake sliders, but not middle middle hangers.

[Carlos Danger]

Love the line-up today. Would like to see more of Biggio on D. But at least he is in the line- up.

 

*However, the fact Pompey is not in there and Fields is?? Pompey must be made of glass..

[Laika]

Anyone have an idea of all of the pitches Alford has hit HRs over the last few days? The 2 ones today were on mistake sliders, but not middle middle hangers.

 

- 3 run HR yesterday was a middle-middle/up mistake slider by Austin Davis (LOOGY type fringe arm)

- low changeup from Trevor Williams; not really a mistake pitch

- middle up FB from Trevor Williams; not a complete mistake pitch, Williams only missed by a few inches in

- Some unknown 1-2 pitch from Seth McGarry (s***** MiLB relief pitcher) but Alford did go oppo

[Krylian]

So Vladdy is missing 3 weeks with a left oblique strain. Sounds about right.

[Maahfaace]

So Vladdy is missing 3 weeks with a left oblique strain. Sounds about right.

 

Is he considered on the ML IL? If so, does it have service time implications?

[Laika]

Is he considered on the ML IL? If so, does it have service time implications?

 

There would be no implications other than a convenient excuse to keep him down for the requisite number of weeks