TheHurl Site Manager Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 There is enough stories out there now and the Team has said nothing. I KNOW those are not good things. Still opinion, mixed in with the rumours that insiders are saying. Osuna will never ever pitch with the Jays again. You can give me all your "this means nothing" Innocent until proven guilty. I am here to be that guy that tells you be prepared for the Jays to lose a key asset.
DigitalRock Old-Timey Member Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 Damn this season is getting more depressing by the week.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 There is enough stories out there now and the Team has said nothing. I KNOW those are not good things. Still opinion, mixed in with the rumours that insiders are saying. Osuna will never ever pitch with the Jays again. You can give me all your "this means nothing" Innocent until proven guilty. I am here to be that guy that tells you be prepared for the Jays to lose a key asset. Yeah this is not good. He's at least gone for the season IMO. MLB won't mess around like the NFL has. The climate for this kind of stuff is different than before too. Probably traded for 50 cents on the dollar in the off-season or straight up released.
Bobthe4th Old-Timey Member Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 Yeah this is not good. He's at least gone for the season IMO. MLB won't mess around like the NFL has. The climate for this kind of stuff is different than before too. Probably traded for 50 cents on the dollar in the off-season or straight up released. If we are forced to trade him for less than what he's worth, we should demand that the acquiring team takes Morales too. They'd instantly DFA him, so effectively they'd just be paying money on top of whatever prospects are given up. We've got to try to salvage something from this situation!
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 Extended another 7 days... https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/osuna-administrative-leave-extended-through-may-28-1.3938951
AdamGreenwood Old-Timey Member Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 There is enough stories out there now and the Team has said nothing. I KNOW those are not good things. Still opinion, mixed in with the rumours that insiders are saying. Osuna will never ever pitch with the Jays again. You can give me all your "this means nothing" Innocent until proven guilty. I am here to be that guy that tells you be prepared for the Jays to lose a key asset. Downside of being owned by a big corporation is that they're going to be more concerned with Rogers reputation than winning. Probably get the Escobar treatment. Forced teary-eyed press conference, followed by an apology tour and then traded for pennies on the dollar in a bigger trade to help obfuscate the fact that we're getting nearly nothing back.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 Downside of being owned by a big corporation is that they're going to be more concerned with Rogers reputation than winning. Probably get the Escobar treatment. Forced teary-eyed press conference, followed by an apology tour and then traded for pennies on the dollar in a bigger trade to help obfuscate the fact that we're getting nearly nothing back. People don't connect Osuna with Rogers though. Sure Rogers owns the Blue Jays but only time the public hates on Rogers is being cheap when it comes to Jays payroll.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 People don't connect Osuna with Rogers though. Sure Rogers owns the Blue Jays but only time the public hates on Rogers is being cheap when it comes to Jays payroll. People have enough legitimate reasons to hate Rogers without evening considering the Blue Jays.
Bobthe4th Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 “Toronto Blue Jays star closer Roberto Osuna’s domestic issue is said by people familiar with the case to be serious and involve allegations of a physical nature, which would draw a significant ban; though, word is that he denies doing physical harm.”
King Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 “Toronto Blue Jays star closer Roberto Osuna’s domestic issue is said by people familiar with the case to be serious and involve allegations of a physical nature, which would draw a significant ban; though, word is that he denies doing physical harm.” This article is such clickbait ********.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 This article is such clickbait ********. Right, brutal? Not one thing new to the case at all.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 What a s*** article. Said absolutely nothing we didn't know.
Bobthe4th Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 Right, brutal? Not one thing new to the case at all. I haven't seen it reported anywhere else that Osuna denies it. If true that could drag out the process (i.e. he won't be looking to strike a deal for it to be resolved quickly).
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 I haven't seen it reported anywhere else that Osuna denies it. If true that could drag out the process (i.e. he won't be looking to strike a deal for it to be resolved quickly). He wouldn't have been released if he didn't deny it.
Bobthe4th Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 He wouldn't have been released if he didn't deny it. I don't think that's true is it - he's on bail? Wouldn't it depend on the severity of the alleged crime for bail to be refused? I'm assuming he enters a plea at the hearing in June.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 I don't think that's true is it - he's on bail? Wouldn't it depend on the severity of the alleged crime for bail to be refused? I'm assuming he enters a plea at the hearing in June. He won't even be presenting a plea until he gets disclosure on his appearance in June, it's a long process. He's not going to admit guilt is all I'm saying.
LGBJ29 Verified Member Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 More Speculation https://frsbaseball.com/mlb/blue-jays/heyman-blue-jays-closer-osuna-could-be-facing-significant-ban/ Toronto Blue Jays star closer Roberto Osuna’s domestic issue is said by people familiar with the case to be serious and involve allegations of a physical nature, which would draw a significant ban; though, word is that he denies doing physical harm.
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted May 29, 2018 Posted May 29, 2018 I'm pretty sure they would want a closer who is actually available to pitch.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 Lawyer says Osuna will plead not guilty.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 Lawyer says Osuna will plead not guilty. Were details of the case open to public/MLB in this case? Nvm... got it, they've only just received disclosure today, as I've said in the past. https://globalnews.ca/video/4281121/toronto-blue-jay-roberto-osuna-will-plead-not-guilty-to-assault-lawyer
Slade Old-Timey Member Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 Pleads not guilty with video surveillance footage is good right? Or is this a case of pleading not guilty as to not interfere with border crossing?
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 Pleads not guilty with video surveillance footage is good right? Or is this a case of pleading not guilty as to not interfere with border crossing? He didn't plea today, just a promise to appear, his lawyer showed in his recognizance.
leaffie Verified Member Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 Just a question. Will the games he missed already be included in any suspension, should he be found guilty.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 Just a question. Will the games he missed already be included in any suspension, should he be found guilty. No because he has been on paid leave.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 Just a question. Will the games he missed already be included in any suspension, should he be found guilty. If they are I wonder how the salary would work as I believe he is still being paid at the moment.
Swervin81 Verified Member Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 No because he has been on paid leave. I wonder if they'll offer him an option to return all the salary from his paid leave in exchange for every game during that previously paid leave counting as time served, in a way. Hell, I don't even know if they can. I mean, I don't know enough about the CBA to know if that's even legal.
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