Jays Acquire Randal Grichuk

[BTS]

The team really needs to add a starter now. And a legit reliever. The bullpen is really gross after Osuna.

[Terminator]

Agreed. I feel like the value of non elite relievers is being overstated. Noname ducks come out of the woodwork every year to become good relievers like Leone did last year.

 

And they usually become s*** the year after.

 

Yeah we are seeing a resurgence in the way Front Offices value relievers. Stat-friendly FO's value relievers more than ever it seems. So that's why a Healy for Pagan deal happens today when it wouldn't have 5 years ago. But Grichuk isn't Healy, he's a guy who can play all 3 OF spots effectively and has a strong batted ball profile that suggests there is some upside.

[Captain Adama]

We've talked about Grichuk before - but didn't he have a lingering thumb injury or something last year that hampered his offense? As he proved in 2016, he only needs to post a wRC+ of 100-110 to be a valuable starting OFer. At age 26, we can certainly hope the best is yet to come.

 

He had a wrist injury IIRC

[Terminator]

Royals losing Hosmer might be our only hope for any team to take Morales for less than eating 50% of his salary and still think everyone would pass.

 

Could be. I think I'd dump him or Pearce. The 6 mil or so we'd get in moving either of them could be used to invest in the bullpen. Might be tough to find a taker for either though. I don't think either is that bad but I don't think either of them are better players than Teoscar Hernandez at this point.

[z3r0s]

FA RP's a pretty much a crap shoot unless you are buying Holland

[Sammy225]

Could be. I think I'd dump him or Pearce. The 6 mil or so we'd get in moving either of them could be used to invest in the bullpen. Might be tough to find a taker for either though. I don't think either is that bad but I don't think either of them are better players than Teoscar Hernandez at this point.

 

I think a platoon of Pearce/Granderson is potentially better the Teoscar. This way Pearce is limited and hopefully can keep him off the DL.

[burlingtonbandit]

If that's the case then Buffalo is going to have one hell of an OF. Alford, Pompey and Hernandez.

 

Legit might be a better OF than the Jays had in 2017.

[z3r0s]

David Hernandez?

Seung-hwan Oh? (dat FB rate tho)

Kevin Siegrist? Did something happen to him last year?

Koji Uehara?

Tony Watson?

 

Chase some upside with guys like

Bruce Rondon

Shae Simmons

[Bobthe4th]

I think a platoon of Pearce/Granderson is potentially better the Teoscar. This way Pearce is limited and hopefully can keep him off the DL.

 

IMO Teoscar needs to be given a chance to start at this stage of his career to see if he can be a part of the future team. Neither of Pearce and Granderson will be here in 2019.

 

The more I think about it, the more I’m leaning towards a Pearce trade. He no longer fits with the roster as it is IMO.

[BTS]

David Hernandez?

Seung-hwan Oh? (dat FB rate tho)

Kevin Siegrist? Did something happen to him last year?

Koji Uehara?

Tony Watson?

 

Chase some upside with guys like

Bruce Rondon

Shae Simmons

 

I’d definitely take Oh on a small major league deal.

[TheHurl]

I don't value Greene at all, so I'm fine with this.

 

Same. He's got more value on the cover of a magazine than on the field.

[Maahfaace]

At least Randal doesn't look like a foot, which when including Leone in the deal translates into a lateral move in the attractiveness department for the organization.

[Terminator]

I think a platoon of Pearce/Granderson is potentially better the Teoscar. This way Pearce is limited and hopefully can keep him off the DL.

 

It could be better than Teoscar. Is it 12 million dollars better than him? I don't think so. And Teoscar/Granderson is better anyway. I actually really like Teoscar and Grichuk. Power bats who can field. With adjustments they could become very good players.

 

I saw enough from Pearce to know that he just cannot play the OF at all. He looked like Adam Lind out there. I think if they dealt Morales they could put him at DH.

[Jonn]

At least Randal doesn't look like a foot, which when including Leone in the deal translates into a lateral move in the attractiveness department for the organization.

 

Well Zeke reminds of Nien Nunb every time I see him. So he should probably be on the move as well.

 

[Bobthe4th]

Pearce is wasted as an outfielder. He’s blocked at 1B by a better player, and blocked at DH by a player with an almost unmovable contract.

 

Hernandez instead of Pearce rotating with Carrera, Grichuk and Granderson in LF & RF has more upside. If Hernandez does well he becomes a starter, if he fails then Alford gets his chance.

[Terminator]

IMO Teoscar needs to be given a chance to start at this stage of his career to see if he can be a part of the future team. Neither of Pearce and Granderson will be here in 2019.

 

The more I think about it, the more I’m leaning towards a Pearce trade. He no longer fits with the roster as it is IMO.

 

One of Morales or Pearce needs to go.

[Jonn]

Pearce is probably just the odd man out. Someone will be interested in him as lefty masher if not now or at the deadline for sure. Cut or trade Zeke. Granderson fills the only role he might have useful in.

[JaysAllMighty]

Me Like, a controlled player till 2021 PLUS a first round pick in 2009.

[Bobthe4th]

One of Morales or Pearce needs to go.

 

Yup. Unfortunately I can’t see anyone taking Morales contract without us eating salary or adding a prospect, so we might as well keep him and hope he improves IMO.

[Spanky99]

Meh, decent trade... if we get '16 Grichuk moving forward, that would be just peachy. A little expensive considering the going rate for RP's, but in the end Bat >>> RP's. Now Cobb, an RP and using the Beeg for multiple innings as previously used and we're good.

[Ray]

Ideally trade Morales and Pearce becomes primary DH.

[Daniel Labude]

Not a huge fan of this based on the price. So are we spending on a SP now?

[GreekFatAss]

Ideally trade Morales and Pearce becomes primary DH.

 

Pearce/Granderson platoon at DH with both being capable part time players at 1B and LF when players need time off. Its remarkable the flexibility we now have in positional players.

[Ray]

Not a huge fan of this based on the price. So are we spending on a SP now?

 

I'd like to move Pillar for a starter and then sign Cain for CF.

[burlingtonbandit]

I think the Wildcard is Connor Greene. His numbers in the minors were s*** as a SP but he throws high 90s. If he turns into a good reliever and Grichuk remains around a 2 win player then STL is likely ahead.

[Terminator]

I'd like to move Pillar for a starter and then sign Cain for CF.

 

That plan works although Grichuk is a slightly above average CFer too. Now could be the time to move Pillar.

[Captain Adama]

Same. He's got more value on the cover of a magazine than on the field.

 

Well if you don't like Greene I guess that means he becomes an ace now?

[Shart]

I'd like to move Pillar for a starter and then sign Cain for CF.

Jays are out on Cain

[burlingtonbandit]

Why do so many people seem to hate the Blue Jays on social media lol. Seems every move they make you get people so mad with the org. Even happened during the AA era...

 

I know fans are stupid but its honestly ridiculous.

[Bobthe4th]

Pearce/Granderson platoon at DH with both being capable part time players at 1B and LF when players need time off. Its remarkable the flexibility we now have in positional players.

 

It would be awesome if Shatkins could manage to trade Morales. I think it’s unlikely though, whereas Pearce could probably bring back a small return of value. Maybe the Padres realise that signing Hosmer would be an overpayment and give us one of their surplus of relievers for Pearce.