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This reminds me that while doing a speech at Winterfest, Stro was talking about how Goins misses the Jays fans and how they traveled together and sucked each other off all offseason.
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2018 Hall of Fame inductees:

 

- Chipper Jones (1st ballot, 97.2%)

 

- Jim Thome (1st ballot, 89.8%)

 

- Vladimir Guerrero (2nd ballot, 92.9%)

 

- Trevor Hoffman (4th ballot, 79.9%)

 

Edgar fell short at 70.4%, 20 votes shy

 

Mussine fell short at 63.5%, 49 votes shy

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Walker doubled his percentage. Voters are wising up to him at least. Schilling continues to be punished for his political views. Edgar has a good chance now too.
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I can't see walker getting inducted with only 2 more cracks. Even though he deserves to.

 

Stupidity of the voting process aside, good to finally see Bonds, Clemens, Mussina and Edgar picking up voting steam.

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Lol @ Hoffman over Rolen, Bonds, Edgar, Schilling, Walker. Why? Lots of Savez?

 

Its so sad that the f***ing retarded BBWAA get to be the gatekeepers.

 

Lol looked it up and Scott Rolen has nearly 20 WAR on Guerrero. Sad!

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Lol @ Hoffman over Rolen, Bonds, Edgar, Schilling, Walker. Why? Lots of Savez?

 

Its so sad that the f***ing retarded BBWAA get to be the gatekeepers.

 

Lol looked it up and Scott Rolen has nearly 20 WAR on Guerrero. Sad!

 

I don't understand what the case against Rolen is from these dinosaurs. Really good hitter with some great offensive seasons, and is one of the best 3B defenders ever, with Gold Gloves for days. It seems like a no-brainer to vote for him.

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I don't understand what the case against Rolen is from these dinosaurs. Really good hitter with some great offensive seasons, and is one of the best 3B defenders ever, with Gold Gloves for days. It seems like a no-brainer to vote for him.

 

Defense doesn’t matter. Except when they decide that it does and elect f***ing Omar Vizquel.

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Met Chipper twice...both times he was a douchebag. Pretty much makes every D-Bag list out there (may not have been caught cheating in baseball but did on his wife, supported John Rocker, supported the Chop with incredibly racist comments) but he makes first ballot when others are held back because of supposedly not being good people (Alomar comes to mind). No argument that he deserves to be there. Just hate the BBWAA and their moral high ground until it's a good ole' white boy.
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I don't understand what the case against Rolen is from these dinosaurs. Really good hitter with some great offensive seasons, and is one of the best 3B defenders ever, with Gold Gloves for days. It seems like a no-brainer to vote for him.

 

Vizquel gets more love than him because why? He played SS and Rolen played 3B? Well Rolen was a really good hitter and Vizquel was a really bad hitter. Makes no sense.

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Defense doesn’t matter. Except when they decide that it does and elect f***ing Omar Vizquel.

 

Seriously what the f***? Great defender but he wasn't the magician that Ozzie Smith was and hell even he was a better hitter. Scott Rolen was ridiculous, just as deserving of merit for his defense and much more for his offense.

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Met Chipper twice...both times he was a douchebag. Pretty much makes every D-Bag list out there (may not have been caught cheating in baseball but did on his wife, supported John Rocker, supported the Chop with incredibly racist comments) but he makes first ballot when others are held back because of supposedly not being good people (Alomar comes to mind). No argument that he deserves to be there. Just hate the BBWAA and their moral high ground until it's a good ole' white boy.

 

I tend to agree but being a good ole' white boy isn't helping Curt Schilling.

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Met Chipper twice...both times he was a douchebag. Pretty much makes every D-Bag list out there (may not have been caught cheating in baseball but did on his wife, supported John Rocker, supported the Chop with incredibly racist comments) but he makes first ballot when others are held back because of supposedly not being good people (Alomar comes to mind). No argument that he deserves to be there. Just hate the BBWAA and their moral high ground until it's a good ole' white boy.

 

SO WHAT HAPPENED WITH SCOTT ROLEN? He's like the goodest white boy you could think of, and he was also really good at baseball!

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Rolen and Walker approx equivalent in value

 

Walker 68.7 WAR in 1988 games

Rolen 70.1 WAR in 2038 games

 

Two guys that were the best at their position for years

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I don't understand what the case against Rolen is from these dinosaurs. Really good hitter with some great offensive seasons, and is one of the best 3B defenders ever, with Gold Gloves for days. It seems like a no-brainer to vote for him.

 

what the argument should be....was never a great bat and lets face it most of the first ballot guys were great bats.

 

The argument against that. Thome made it easily.

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what the argument should be....was never a great bat and lets face it most of the first ballot guys were great bats.

 

The argument against that. Thome made it easily.

 

All about the home runs.

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8 voters thought Johnny Damon deserved to be in the HOF. There's a very good argument for those 8 people to lose their voting rights.
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It's funny that we don't even bother to mention that they left the two best players ever out.

 

I'll use this to my platform now to say If you are going to consider Relief Pitcher a position (and I can buy arguments for or against) than Hoffman is among the 3 best ever IMO.

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Thome on the first ballot. I thought they hated DHs. I can't even find consistency in the biases.

 

Thome wasn't even a better hitter than Martinez, career or peak. The voters have no idea what they're doing.

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