2017 Toronto Blue Jays Draft Results | Signings, Bonuses and Rumors

[bendera3]

Yeah I'm not really liking this trend of MLB putting small bandaids on a bunch of non problems.

 

I was meh on the no pitch IW, but having seen one live, it's just too f***ing weird. I mean, the fans at the stadium aren't necessarily owed anything but the batter comes up with his music and walks to first without even stepping in the box. Its f***ing weird and i hate it a lot more than I thought I would.

 

Rob Manfred suxxxxxxxxx

 

Trying to administer a pro league to be fair is so difficult. In the NBA you have the grouping of "super teams" with a bunch of stars willing to sacrifice money, and in baseball you have "competitive balance" picks where small market teams are just given draft picks because they are deemed small markets and need these extra picks to be competitive.

[Spanky99]

Seeds don't really tell the story in the NHL. You usually have a lot of teams clumped together because of the loser point anyway (Pretty sure LA Kings were an 8 seed but were thought of 1 of the best teams) I agree with Spank if you look at who's made the finals in the last 20 years its basically all cup contenders outside a few Cinderella stories.

 

A team can get lucky and win a round or 2 but the best teams almost always win in the end.

 

Kings were built to win, they did there job regardless. It would've been a huge story in LA.

 

P.S. I agree.

[Brownie19]

Well I mean...you don't want too much parity. Dynasties are fun.

 

You sound like Bobcat. Personally I disagree. I've watched LBJ in the finals for 7 straight years and I'm tired of it. As fun as it is watching GS play I couldn't watch the NBA finals this year.

 

But I loved watching an underdog in Nashville make a run to the finals. It drew in my interest. I would have much rather watched them play Ottawa. Maybe that's just me but I love underdogs and I like hearing new stories about different teams.

 

Right now is love to see Houston play Washington in the finals. 2 new teams.

[Krylian]

Well I mean...you don't want too much parity. Dynasties are fun.

 

I agree.

 

When you think back to the decades of the past you always think about the dynasties during that decade. Having 10 different teams win in a decade is not something that I find particularly interesting. I like having a team will multiple championships over a short period of time...you don't appreciate it at the time, but looking back, it's something that I respect and remember with fondness.

[Key22]

Yes - teams draft College Sr's every year because they have so much leverage on them and then offer them next to nothing to they can spend that draft slot money elsewhere. I told Tinnish a few times to keep my name handy if he wants to save some cash, as I would gladly sign for $1 (and them promptly retire). Turns out they can get College Sr's who actually have some upside/potential for next to nothing and thus my phone has yet to ring.

 

I have no idea what this subject has to do with the definition of black though.

 

Yes on the first page and post of "signings" there is green, red and black for players that have been signed or will not sign (Red). Just wondering what the black meant. But looking at it it appears to just mean a player not signed and is not known to be willing to sign.

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Ben Nicholson@bnicholsonsmith 47 seconds ago

#BlueJays have officially signed their top two picks, Logan Warmoth and Nate Pearson. Both in Toronto today

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#BlueJays have officially signed their top two picks, Logan Warmoth and Nate Pearson. Both in Toronto today

 

Titties. I'm excited for Warmoth.

[Krylian]

Titties. I'm excited for Warmoth.

 

I'm excited for Titties.

[baubau]

I'm excited for Titties.

 

You are one of my favorite posters.

[Atothe]

The thing the cap system for MLB draft did is have the consensus top players go to the bad teams instead of Rick porcelloing their way to a team willing to spend ridiculous amounts in the draft like the Red Sox.

[Captain Adama]

The thing the cap system for MLB draft did is have the consensus top players go to the bad teams instead of Rick porcelloing their way to a team willing to spend ridiculous amounts in the draft like the Red Sox.

 

But Porcello was drafted by the Tigers?

[Brownie19]

The thing the cap system for MLB draft did is have the consensus top players go to the bad teams instead of Rick porcelloing their way to a team willing to spend ridiculous amounts in the draft like the Red Sox.

 

Can we just have set amounts that you sign for like in every other sport, so teams take players based on their abilities and not their price tag? I guess in that situation, a team might take a HS player higher than they should so he'd get enough money to skip college....but whatever.

[burlingtonbandit]

Can we just have set amounts that you sign for like in every other sport, so teams take players based on their abilities and not their price tag? I guess in that situation, a team might take a HS player higher than they should so he'd get enough money to skip college....but whatever.

 

I'd rather not. Baseball is different than the other sports where a development by the org. matters a lot more to a player's career. You have guys like Bichette who if drafted by a s***** org. would want to overhaul his swing and can ruin players. Thats why players will tell teams don't draft me because a couple hundred K isn't worth it when the difference could be millions later on in their career. And in baseball you control them for 6 major league seasons so by the time you get out of that org. it could be too late.

 

There's a reason why the Cubs have a pipeline of young talent coming through and then you have teams like the Orioles and Twins failing to develop young talent constantly.

[metafour]

Davis Schneider signed. He made his debut in the GCL yesterday (along with Danner) and went 1 for 3, 2B, BB.

[Boxcar]

I'd rather not. Baseball is different than the other sports where a development by the org. matters a lot more to a player's career. You have guys like Bichette who if drafted by a s***** org. would want to overhaul his swing and can ruin players. Thats why players will tell teams don't draft me because a couple hundred K isn't worth it when the difference could be millions later on in their career. And in baseball you control them for 6 major league seasons so by the time you get out of that org. it could be too late.

 

There's a reason why the Cubs have a pipeline of young talent coming through and then you have teams like the Orioles and Twins failing to develop young talent constantly.

 

And if I recall correctly, Bichette turned down a number of teams and targeted the Jays even though he has no connection to us at all. Dad never played here, brother was never in our system, never lived in this city, etc.

 

So Shatkins' decisive emphasis on all aspects of player development probably netted us a top 5 prospect all on its own.

[Brownie19]

I'd rather not. Baseball is different than the other sports where a development by the org. matters a lot more to a player's career. You have guys like Bichette who if drafted by a s***** org. would want to overhaul his swing and can ruin players. Thats why players will tell teams don't draft me because a couple hundred K isn't worth it when the difference could be millions later on in their career. And in baseball you control them for 6 major league seasons so by the time you get out of that org. it could be too late.

 

There's a reason why the Cubs have a pipeline of young talent coming through and then you have teams like the Orioles and Twins failing to develop young talent constantly.

 

I never really considered this. Does this happen a lot? I guess that could happen in the NFL a bit, where there are horrible organizations with horrible coach....or coaches who run a certain system that you'd like to avoid.

[TwistedLogic]

[Maahfaace]

I never really considered this. Does this happen a lot? I guess that could happen in the NFL a bit, where there are horrible organizations with horrible coach....or coaches who run a certain system that you'd like to avoid.

 

The NFL is alot different from literally every other sport. Athletism is the only thing that matters for the majority of the positions come come the draft, excluding the line where its combined with gargantuan size. Aside from a few positions, skill is an afterthought, and most teams just hope players have some basic ability to assimilate information, so as to be able to learn schemes and positional awareness. It's a major reason why the majority of players wash out of the league by the time they hit 30.

[TwistedLogic]

So with Warmoth, Pearson and Danner all going overslot, they've used up their entire pool and the majority of their 5% overage allowance.

 

They have about $81K left of overage allowance if they want to go over the 125K slot past the first 10 rounds. The most they can spend on one unsigned guy now is $206,550.

[Angrioter]

So with Warmoth, Pearson and Danner all going overslot, they've used up their entire pool and the majority of their 5% overage allowance.

 

They have about $81K left of overage allowance if they want to go over the 125K slot past the first 10 rounds. The most they can spend on one unsigned guy now is $206,550.

 

Oscar Taveras 145 K

[TwistedLogic]

Evan Skoug, the 48th ranked prospect that fell all the way to the White Sox in the 7th round, signed for only 300K (99K above slot). Jays could have afforded this one.

[Laika]

Evan Skoug, the 48th ranked prospect that fell all the way to the White Sox in the 7th round, signed for only 300K (99K above slot). Jays could have afforded this one.

 

I'm going to go wayyyy out on a limb and say that Toronto didn't think he was anywhere near the 48th best prospect

[metafour]

I'm going to go wayyyy out on a limb and say that Toronto didn't think he was anywhere near the 48th best prospect

 

This. Skoug was a healthy college Junior, so he didn't "fall" because of signability like a HS prospect would. Clearly MLB teams didn't have a grade anywhere near Top 50 on him.

[o2cui2i]

The NFL is alot different from literally every other sport. Athletism is the only thing that matters for the majority of the positions come come the draft, excluding the line where its combined with gargantuan size. Aside from a few positions, skill is an afterthought, and most teams just hope players have some basic ability to assimilate information, so as to be able to learn schemes and positional awareness. It's a major reason why the majority of players wash out of the league by the time they hit 30.

 

most of their bodies just can't play every week by the time they are 30.

[Atothe]

But Porcello was drafted by the Tigers?

 

You do realize the Tigers use to poach those types of guys all the time back then right?

[o2cui2i]

it is really nice to see the Jays sign 17 of their top 20 and their first 13 picks. a couple more could still sign but as a whole they have done well to sign the guys they picked.

 

 

It will be interesting to see how this years draft picks develop.

[Spanky99]

most of their bodies just can't play every week by the time they are 30.

 

Yeah, I don't get that comment as the average career is like 4-5 years, you seldom see guys play into their 30's.

[Spanky99]

TL where'd your post go... I was trying to reply to it, I agree for that matter.

[metafour]

HS 1B PK Morris signed today.

 

 

[Ray]

Any reason Warmoth and Pearson haven't been assigned any where yet?