General 2017 Blue Jays Discussion Thread

[Terminator]

The cop who arrested Winfield sounds like a Howdy Doody dumb f***.

 

Hartery: I still have the baseball stuck here in my cabinet . . . The only thing I kind of regret is not getting him to sign the baseball.

 

Hartery: When he came back to the Blue Jays, again I was working a game and I was in that same hallway. I said, “Hi,” I told him who I was, and he didn’t want to talk. I said, “OK, no problem,” and I just walked, gave him his privacy

 

Why the hell would he sign the ball and why would he want to chit chat with you? lol

 

https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2013/08/02/the_dave_winfield_seagull_incident_vs_toronto_blue_jays_at_exhibition_stadium_30_years_later_an_oral_history.html

[John_Havok]

Is there any chance Borucki has earned himself a September start (or sooner) with last nights outing? Dude is crushing AA.

 

Not sure about a start, but could very well come up for some pen work. He threw 135 innings last year so I'm guessing they'd want him up around 170 after this season and he's just 119 so far after losing that time to injury. New Hampshire has no shot at the playoffs so he probably will come up as soon as their season is over and September callup happen.

 

May even see him in the Arizona Fall League

[Bobthe4th]

Biagini sent to AAA to "strengthen his arm" according to Gibby - looks like when he comes back he'll be starting again.

 

Makes sense to use the remainder of the season as a testing ground - get Alford up too please.

[Slade]

Just bring Borucki up now, we wasted so many starts on scrubs like Valdez, Bolsinger and Liriano.

[John_Havok]

Biagini sent to AAA to "strengthen his arm" according to Gibby - looks like when he comes back he'll be starting again.

 

Makes sense to use the remainder of the season as a testing ground - get Alford up too please.

 

Weird he needs to build up in AAA when he didn't need to earlier in the season, they just had him throw 45 pitches one start, then 60 the next, and 80.... and so on.

 

Wonder why they're sending him down to do that same thing now?

[Spanky99]

Weird he needs to build up in AAA when he didn't need to earlier in the season, they just had him throw 45 pitches one start, then 60 the next, and 80.... and so on.

 

Wonder why they're sending him down to do that same thing now?

 

To work on his full wind-up, that's it. He hasn't done it properly in ages, just to clean up mechanics. 2 starts and he's back in our rotation.

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-option-biagini-short-term-long-term-mind/

[HERPDERP]

taylor cole played during the montreal exhibitions a few years ago right?

[Dick_Pole]

Weird he needs to build up in AAA when he didn't need to earlier in the season, they just had him throw 45 pitches one start, then 60 the next, and 80.... and so on.

 

Wonder why they're sending him down to do that same thing now?

 

To work on his full wind-up, that's it. He hasn't done it properly in ages, just to clean up mechanics. 2 starts and he's back in our rotation.

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-option-biagini-short-term-long-term-mind/

 

That's probably a smart move and I understand why they are doing it. Earlier in the year he was considered a spot starter. He's probably a permanent fixture in the rotation for the rest of this year and maybe in 2018. The Jays pen can't afford another couple of starts of guaranteed 3-4 innings so get him 100% right in the minors.

[Spanky99]

That's probably a smart move and I understand why they are doing it. Earlier in the year he was considered a spot starter. He's probably a permanent fixture in the rotation for the rest of this year and maybe in 2018. The Jays pen can't afford another couple of starts of guaranteed 3-4 innings so get him 100% right in the minors.

 

Yeah, I believe that's the plan. They pretty much said that's the idea, in other interviews with Walker and Gibbons. Doing it right this time without taxing the pen.

[Bobthe4th]

 

Cole has only pitched 12 innings this season but hasn't given up an earned run. Nothing to lose by giving him a chance.

 

How many times has Bolsinger been DFA now? Must be quite demoralising for him.

[z3r0s]

this little gem popped up in my player news in fantasy

 

Blue Jays manager John Gibbons said Aaron Sanchez (blister) continues to make "slow progress."

Advice: "That's all I can tell you," said Gibbons. "Hopefully he makes it back. We'll see."

 

uuuuuuuugh

[Slade]

If the Royals lose we are only 4 games back. It's crazy how smashed together ever is in the AL.

 

If Estrada is rebounding and we can find one more reliable starter (Biagini/Borucki) maybe we can make the rest of the season at least interesting.

[glory]

If the Royals lose we are only 4 games back. It's crazy how smashed together ever is in the AL.

 

If Estrada is rebounding and we can find one more reliable starter (Biagini/Borucki) maybe we can make the rest of the season at least interesting.

 

The Jays also have a bunch of games left against the teams they are chasing.

 

It is a huge long shot especially since they'll be throwing scrubs out there in place of actual big league starters without Sanchez and Liriano, but if they can at least make September mean something it would be better than waiting for the season to end in August so the off season can start.

 

Damn if Osuna doesn't blow 4 saves in 3 weeks.....

[Terminator]

 

Damn if Osuna doesn't blow 4 saves in 3 weeks.....

 

Yeah if he only blows 2 we'd only be 2 games back right now. Kind of crazy. What really f***ed us though was that 6-17 start. We've been pretty decent but for that s*** start.

[MunenoriKawasakiMVP]

The 3 games vs the Royals, 7 against the Rays and 8 against the Yanks are gonna be massive. The season is far from over.

[MunenoriKawasakiMVP]

Oakland-Seattle game now tied 6-6. We really need the A's to take this one to squeeze the AL even more.

[MunenoriKawasakiMVP]

Baltimore also lost

[Bobthe4th]

Yeah if he only blows 2 we'd only be 2 games back right now. Kind of crazy. What really f***ed us though was that 6-17 start. We've been pretty decent but for that s*** start.

 

We've had so many things go wrong this season, and we're still not that far off the wildcard.

 

FWIW I can't see us making it this year, but at least it's encouraging for next season.

[glory]

Yeah if he only blows 2 we'd only be 2 games back right now. Kind of crazy. What really f***ed us though was that 6-17 start. We've been pretty decent but for that s*** start.

 

Yeah that start basically screwed us. It's been an uphill battle all season because of that, and the team isn't as good as it was in 2015-16 to go on an extended run to compensate for it. It's kind of annoying that the 2nd wc is so trash this year that even a slightly better than .500 season by the Jays would have put them right there, but s*** happens.

[Terminator]

Yeah that start basically screwed us. It's been an uphill battle all season because of that, and the team isn't as good as it was in 2015-16 to go on an extended run to compensate for it. It's kind of annoying that the 2nd wc is so trash this year that even a slightly better than .500 season by the Jays would have put them right there, but s*** happens.

 

I'm interested to see where we are at the end of this home stand. If we are only a couple back it wouldn't hurt to try and pick up a cheap SS or SP to make a run over the final month and a half. But the problem isn't necessarily the amount of games back it's the amount of teams that we have to jump.

 

Of course as I express even a minimal amount of hope here we very well could drop 3 of the next 4 and fall completely out of it. It's really tenuous right now and we need a win streak asap.

Edited August 9, 2017 by Terminator

[Terminator]

 

Tulo is done for the year. What a pathetic season he had. 3 years and 58 million left to go on his deal.

[BTS]

Tulo is a massive anchor around this team's neck.

[Pendleton]

Tulo is a massive anchor around this team's neck.

 

Getting more production at 2B and from the OF needs to be a big priority as long as we can't count on getting much from our SS.

[BTS]

Getting more production at 2B and from the OF needs to be a big priority as long as we can't count on getting much from our SS.

 

The MIF is a disaster. Tulowitzki is both injury-prone and bad, and Travis is injury-prone. If the team plans to win in 2018, and plans to roster both these guys, they basically need two other middle infielders that project at close to league average if played every day. Ryan Goins absolutely can not be one of those players. Someone like Eduardo Nunez needs to be brought in.

[Abomination]

The MIF is a disaster. Tulowitzki is both injury-prone and bad, and Travis is injury-prone. If the team plans to win in 2018, and plans to roster both these guys, they basically need two other middle infielders that project at close to league average if played every day. Ryan Goins absolutely can not be one of those players. Someone like Eduardo Nunez needs to be brought in.

 

Zobrist would be a nice fit. I could see the Cubs perhaps having the depth to want to free up the money too.

[G-Snarls]

[Terminator]

The MIF is a disaster. Tulowitzki is both injury-prone and bad, and Travis is injury-prone. If the team plans to win in 2018, and plans to roster both these guys, they basically need two other middle infielders that project at close to league average if played every day. Ryan Goins absolutely can not be one of those players. Someone like Eduardo Nunez needs to be brought in.

 

And unlike the OF we have no real depth in the minors to draw from next season either. We need to get Nunez or Kendrick and maybe even both. Or at least one would be good and then make an effort to get a good bench player who can play SS. Can't count on Tulo or Travis at all.

[Pendleton]

And unlike the OF we have no real depth in the minors to draw from next season either. We need to get Nunez or Kendrick and maybe even both. Or at least one would be good and then make an effort to get a good bench player who can play SS. Can't count on Tulo or Travis at all.

 

Save us Bo

[Krylian]

 

Tulo is done for the year. What a pathetic season he had. 3 years and 58 million left to go on his deal.

 

He's never looked like he's wanted to be here. Maybe he just has a miserable looking puss all the time, but he's certainly played like he's miserable.

[THANOS]

Zobrist would be a nice fit. I could see the Cubs perhaps having the depth to want to free up the money too.

 

If we're lucky, Gurriel Jr reaches his potential and we have our own Zobrist for cheap.