Around Baseball 2017

[Candy Maldonado]

new record 44th strike out!!

[TheHurl]

In the 10th I called it would go 20 but it's ending this inning, teams will get sloppy as they just want it to end

[P2F]

It's over!

 

Yankees win in 18.

[G-Snarls]

Yankees sweep the Cubs

 

Gahd dayum

[BlueJayWay]

The AL East is collectively 14 games over .500 with a +63 run differential already. That's the other thing about this 11-20 start..if they were in some other division it might be easier to come back. The ALE is again looking like the best division in MLB.

[G-Snarls]

The AL East is collectively 14 games over .500 with a +63 run differential already. That's the other thing about this 11-20 start..if they were in some other division it might be easier to come back. The ALE is again looking like the best division in MLB.

 

Exactly right

 

We could get to 500 in a few weeks and still be just as far or further back

 

There are too many other good teams

[Laika]

NJH recommends this: http://www.masnsports.com/nationals-pastime/2017/05/one-month-later-guthrie-still-coping-with-career-ending-start.html

[G-Snarls]

Somehow the Mets have gone 6-4 over the last 10 games

[bzapple]

Yonder Alonso hit his 9th home run yesterday, tying his career-high.

[Brownie19]

Yonder Alonso hit his 9th home run yesterday, tying his career-high.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/yonder-alonso-is-the-new-poster-boy-for-the-fly-ball-revolution/

[bzapple]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/yonder-alonso-is-the-new-poster-boy-for-the-fly-ball-revolution/

 

Looks like he's adopted the Cito/Dwayne Murphy school of hitting approach.

[KingKat]

NJH recommends this: http://www.masnsports.com/nationals-pastime/2017/05/one-month-later-guthrie-still-coping-with-career-ending-start.html

 

Echoes of Erik Bedard in the WBC except I don't think Bedard really cared that much about ending on a s***** note and clearly Guthrie does. Both were about as (un)likely to pitch well though Bedard did dance through the raindrops a fair bit in his first WBC start.

[TwistedLogic]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/yonder-alonso-is-the-new-poster-boy-for-the-fly-ball-revolution/

 

People are finally listening to Donaldson, who's been harping on about elevating the ball for 2-3 years now.

[TwistedLogic]

But somehow I don't think they're torn up about their abysmal play. Their recent World Series rings keep them warm at night.

 

I'm honestly going to be a little triggered if a team like the Giants ends up getting a top 3 draft pick.

 

If the Jays aren't going to compete this year, I'd have no problem seeing them slide to the bottom of the standings and get a good f***ing pick for once.

 

This is a team that has never had a #1 overall pick in its history, and hasn't picked above 4th since 1982.

[KingKat]

I'm honestly going to be a little triggered if a team like the Giants ends up getting a top 3 draft pick.

 

If the Jays aren't going to compete this year, I'd have no problem seeing them slide to the bottom of the standings and get a good f***ing pick for once.

 

This is a team that has never had a #1 overall pick in its history, and hasn't picked above 4th since 1982.

 

How you draft is more important than where you draft. Look at the Red Sox, they don't tank and they still make excellent picks like Benintendi. Meanwhile the last times the Jays had a really high pick, they blew it on Deck McGuire.

[Laika]

How you draft is more important than where you draft. Look at the Red Sox, they don't tank and they still make excellent picks like Benintendi. Meanwhile the last times the Jays had a really high pick, they blew it on Deck McGuire.

 

7th overall is definitely tanking for Boston!

 

And they picked 7th overall TWICE between 2013 and 2015. lol @ Trey Ball.

[burlingtonbandit]

How you draft is more important than where you draft. Look at the Red Sox, they don't tank and they still make excellent picks like Benintendi. Meanwhile the last times the Jays had a really high pick, they blew it on Deck McGuire.

 

Hoffman was picked 9th. Too bad they didn't take Conforto who went 10th.

[TwistedLogic]

How you draft is more important than where you draft. Look at the Red Sox, they don't tank and they still make excellent picks like Benintendi. Meanwhile the last times the Jays had a really high pick, they blew it on Deck McGuire.

 

11 isn't a "really high pick". Harvey, Machado, Taillon and Harper were all off the board by that point.

[KingKat]

7th overall is definitely tanking for Boston!

 

And they picked 7th overall TWICE between 2013 and 2015. lol @ Trey Ball.

 

11 isn't a "really high pick". Harvey, Machado, Taillon and Harper were all off the board by that point.

 

This is what you get for not researching your post at all and going strictly on hazy middle aged memory.

[Dick_Pole]

I'm honestly going to be a little triggered if a team like the Giants ends up getting a top 3 draft pick.

 

If the Jays aren't going to compete this year, I'd have no problem seeing them slide to the bottom of the standings and get a good f***ing pick for once.

 

This is a team that has never had a #1 overall pick in its history, and hasn't picked above 4th since 1982.

 

Didn't stop the Jays from winning the World Series in 1992 and 1993.

 

But of course the loser mentality prevails. Let's cheer for our team to lose and embarrass the franchise with a 100 loss season for a very, very, very slight advantage in the draft. When success is far more dependent on the team developing the prospects it has.

 

The Yankees haven't lost 100 games in over 100 years and have 27 World Series to show for it since then. Meanwhile the Phillies have oodles and oodles of losing seasons under their belt and have two World Series to show for it.

[G-Snarls]

There's no tanking in baseball!!!

 

(apologies to Tom Hanks)

 

But seriously. This ain't the NBA

[Dick_Pole]

KingKat: Meanwhile the last times the Jays had a really high pick, they blew it on Deck McGuire.

TwistedLogic: 11 isn't a "really high pick". Harvey, Machado, Taillon and Harper were all off the board by that point.

 

This is what you get for forgetting the contents of your own post. Must be a middle aged thing. I wouldn't know, I'm 24.

 

Congrats on embarrassing yourself early on in this here lovely Monday afternoon. If you'd like to continue arguing the idea that "hi draft pix arnt gud", go right ahead. That's not the hill I'd prefer to die on, personally.

 

Now I'm beginning to remember why you were run off here in the first place.

 

No one would ever argue that high draft picks aren't worth more than lower ones. That's ridiculous. The argument is if those high draft picks are worth throwing away a year and embarrassing the franchise. The other argument is that player development, good trades and smart drafting trumps having high draft picks a lot of the time.

[Laika]

KingKat: Meanwhile the last times the Jays had a really high pick, they blew it on Deck McGuire.

TwistedLogic: 11 isn't a "really high pick". Harvey, Machado, Taillon and Harper were all off the board by that point.

 

This is what you get for forgetting the contents of your own post. Must be a middle aged thing. I wouldn't know, I'm 24.

 

Congrats on embarrassing yourself early on in this here lovely Monday afternoon. If you'd like to continue arguing the idea that "hi draft pix arnt gud", go right ahead. That's not the hill I'd prefer to die on, personally.

 

His post was self-deprecating, you f***ing dimwit.

[Dick_Pole]

There's no tanking in baseball!!!

 

(apologies to Tom Hanks)

 

But seriously. This ain't the NBA

 

This isn't even the case either. When was the last time the Spurs had a top draft pick? Yes they got lucky in that David Robinson decided to get injured the same year that Tim Duncan was available in the draft. They have since parlayed that luck into 50+ win seasons for as long as the Raptors have been around.

[polar bear]

There's no tanking in baseball!!!

 

(apologies to Tom Hanks)

 

But seriously. This ain't the NBA

 

 

NBA!how about the stupid NHL?

[jaysfan2014]

And #1 picks don't always work out--for every Bryce Harper, Mauer or Price, there's busts like Tim Beckham, Delmon Young, Matt Anderson..

[TwistedLogic]

The argument is if those high draft picks are worth throwing away a year and embarrassing the franchise.

 

The qualifier I used was "if the Jays aren't going to compete this year." If this team isn't going to make the playoffs then I'd rather they finish with a high draft pick than string together a few s***** win streaks and finish 5 games below .500. People can talk about how there's no tanking in baseball but year after year players like Bryant, Correa, Cole and Machado are available at the top of the draft. Nobody would care about "embarrassing the franchise" if it resulted in a better outlook for the team.

 

His post was self-deprecating, you f***ing dimwit.

 

My bad if that's how it was intended, but it was phrased strangely if it was.

[Brownie19]

This isn't even the case either. When was the last time the Spurs had a top draft pick? Yes they got lucky in that David Robinson decided to get injured the same year that Tim Duncan was available in the draft. They have since parlayed that luck into 50+ win seasons for as long as the Raptors have been around.

 

Doesn't that prove how valuable an NBA draft pick can be? Spurs get lucky, land one of the best players of all-time and are able to build around him for the next 15 years, winning multiple championships because he's so good. The Spurs, much like the Jays in the late 80's/early 90's were aided by being ahead of the curve and able to tap into an international market before everyone else caught on. I'll also admit they have excellent scouts and a phenomenal system; however, I strongly doubt they are anywhere near as successful with that approach if Tim f***ing Duncan doesn't fall into their laps.

[Terminator]

Doesn't that prove how valuable an NBA draft pick can be? Spurs get lucky, land one of the best players of all-time and are able to build around him for the next 15 years, winning multiple championships because he's so good. The Spurs, much like the Jays in the late 80's/early 90's were aided by being ahead of the curve and able to tap into an international market before everyone else caught on. I'll also admit they have excellent scouts and a phenomenal system; however, I strongly doubt they are anywhere near as successful with that approach if Tim f***ing Duncan doesn't fall into their laps.

 

Tanking in the NBA is the way to go. They tanked that one year and got Duncan which lead to a nearly 20 year dynasty. They supplemented that one pick very very well though.

[G-Snarls]

Tanking in the NBA is the way to go. They tanked that one year and got Duncan which lead to a nearly 20 year dynasty. They supplemented that one pick very very well though.

 

More than any other sport, one NBA superstar can really carry a team

 

Baseball is just not like that