The Red Sox acquire Chris Sale

[BTS]

Since when is David Price a headcase?

 

There should be a forum function that auto-bans someone every time they use the word 'headcase'. Guessing at the effect that someone's personality will have on their performance based on the odd news story is probably the dumbest type of post you see on sports forums.

[Jonn]

Have you seen him in the playoffs?

 

The f*** does that have to do with being a head case? Guy is one of the nicest guys in Baseball.

[Grant77]

So Boston is paying all of Moncada's salary. That pretty much means they are paying Sale 23 million per year + the prospects.

[Dr. Dinger]

A player is really only worth what a team is willing to pay him so it's kind of a mute point. Regardless it was just a silly tweet that looked kind of foolish on the surface when you consider $33.33MM would be the highest paid player in the majors, or at the very least exactly in line with contracts like Kershaw/Price, etc.

 

It's moot point.

[Grant77]

It's moot point.

 

He doesn't give a f*** I've been told.

[intentional wok]

I have nothing against Chris Sale. Last time Boston got this much hype, they came in last place, so we'll see what happens.

 

Last time Boston got this much hype was the 2015-16 offseason when they landed Price and then won the division.

[Jonn]

mute point lol.

[Daniel Labude]

Steven Wright and one of Pomeranz/Rodriguez are not an acceptable 4/5 combo to you?

 

Back of the pen looks like Osuna/Grilli/Biagini vs. Kimbrel/Thornburg/Barnes. If anything, that's advantage Boston.

 

I disagree about back of the pen. With Osuna being only 21 his upside and previous production probably puts him ahead of Kimbrel imo. The other 2 will be a wash I think.

 

As for Wright he is going to be a mixed bag like Dickey I believe. Last year he was great until the last month or 2 where he imploded if I remember correctly. I assume they would go with Rodriguez at #5 which is ok...but our #5 whoever you consider it to be should be better.

 

Edit: I am not saying Boston will be bad...in fact their pitching will be really good. I just think we will be better.

[Dr. Dinger]

He doesn't give a f*** I've been told.

 

Not trying to be a dick, it's a common mistake. Personally I would rather be corrected than keep using the wrong word over and over for various audiences, perhaps even professionally.

[intentional wok]

I disagree about back of the pen. With Osuna being only 21 his upside and previous production probably puts him ahead of Kimbrel imo. The other 2 will be a wash I think.

 

As for Wright he is going to be a mixed bag like Dickey I believe. Last year he was great until the last month or 2 where he imploded if I remember correctly. I assume they would go with Rodriguez at #5 which is ok...but our #5 whoever you consider it to be should be better.

 

Edit: I am not saying Boston will be bad...in fact their pitching will be really good. I just think we will be better.

 

Even with the back-end rotation quirks, how does that still make the Jay rotation of Aaron 'let's see you do it again' Sanchez, Marcus sinkerball Stroman, Marco slipped disc Estrada, JA Happ, and Francisco complete wild card Liriano better? I mean I like the Jays rotation more than any other in recent memory, but over Price, Sale, Porcello, even with some uncertainty behind them? No way man.

[BTS]

I think the first three are inarguable:

 

Sale > Sanchez

Price > Stroman

Porcello > Happ

 

I'd almost certainly take Wright over Liriano. Edge to Estrada over Pomeranz/Rodriguez to me, but IF Pomeranz is healthy, even that is close.

[Stangstag]

Gotta say, I'm surprised. I thought it would take at least 2 of Boston's top guys to land Sale. Thought it would be something like Bradley + Moncada +, or at least Benintendi + Moncada.

 

Great trade for the Sox.

 

(Redsox)

[Brownie19]

mute point lol.

 

Gov's from Barrie - let's give him a break guys.

[TwistedLogic]

Red Sox taking on Moncada's entire contract.

 

[Jonn]

Gov's from Barrie - let's give him a break guys.

 

Barrie really isn't that bad. It's just different.

[TholesWeirdEye]

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[HealthDream007]

This really sucks! A 1 - 2 punch of Sale & Price with that offense, even if they'll likely be regression is downright scary.

 

Our pitching staff has a higher probability to regress imo.

 

The regression I was referring to was the Red Sox offense (which will still be very good). I should have made that clearer, my bad.

[ChrisS]

The regression I was referring to was the Red Sox offense (which will still be very good). I should made that clearer, my bad.

We still dont know who else they will sign to DH. Its quite possible they go all in and get EE, the timing is perfect.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Dang it, Remember when we were all sooo excited that we signed Steave Pearce!

 

Seems like only yesterday, Good Times!!!

[GeorgiaPeach]

The $/WAR model does not work perfectly in free agency because there are market restrictions and realities that take precedent. Trout may be "worth" $75 million a year, but that doesn't mean that anyone would pay him anywhere near that on the open market even if he magically became a free agent tomorrow. The max he'd get is something like ~$40 million a year. Its a fun thing to look at, but it doesn't work in actual real life.

 

Erik Kratz had a s***** agent

[Terminator]

Looking forward to seeing Sandoval everyday at 3B.

 

Not after they sign Justin Turner.

[Governator]

There's nothing wrong with correcting grammar per say, but it's kind of enjoyable when it bothers Grant.

[Boxcar]

Am I missing something? I get that Its Chris Sale but 100 mill for 3 years.. how is he worth "way more"?

 

John Heyman probably has an iq in the 60s. Just keep that in mind whenever you read him.

[ChrisS]

Not after they sign Justin Turner.

 

Sandoval as the full time DH and Turner at 3rd

[Boxcar]

That seems like a cheap price to pay for Sale. I get it that Moncada is highly regarded but Sale is out of this world.

It's almost like trading Moncada for Donaldson, we would never do that.

 

It's very much not like that at all. Donaldson is worth a lot more than Sale on a performance basis.

[Boxcar]

Their #4 and #5 starters are not good imo....and their bullpen is questionable.

 

We are solid #1-5 with upside to be even better. Back end of our pen is great as well. We just need to full out the rest of our pen.

 

Red Sox might see a slide in Price and Porcello so...yes overall I think we will be better.

 

Ah homerism.

 

Sure they may not be better than the Sox now, but I think Price will drive off a cliff and Sale will get into a life-changing bar fight so therefore the Blue Jays are better!!!

[Spanky99]

Nice deal for both sides, the Bosox looking good in December... it's too bad we have to actually play the season out.

[Frag]

Welp. At least there are the wild card spots.

[BigCecil]

Nice deal for both sides, the Bosox looking good in December... it's too bad we have to actually play the season out.

 

You are going to have to talk a lot of posters off the ledge for a long time over all this Spank

 

Seriously though, while anything can happen in the playoffs you have to get there first. And over 162, adding Sale to their rotation is not something I'm happy about.

[metafour]

That seems like a cheap price to pay for Sale. I get it that Moncada is highly regarded but Sale is out of this world.

It's almost like trading Moncada for Donaldson, we would never do that.

 

Uhm, they also gave up Kopech who is 20 years old, just dominated the AFL (ranked #2 prospect by BA behind only Gleybar Torres), and hits 100mph with his fastball. On top of two other prospects.