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burlingtonbandit New Hampshire Fisher Cats

burlingtonbandit

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Why not? Doesn't impact a potential signing on Edwin, and adds as a cushion if Edwin's contract demands are stupid.

 

Last 3 years he's been worth 0.8 WAR combined. Projected to be worth barely past half a win with a 109 wRC+, which is bad for a DH.

 

I don't want to sign Edwin for over 75 Million but that doesn't mean sign a bad player for 30 Million.

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Hasn't Morales always been a solid 1B? I can't imagine them using him in the OF

 

Maybe an emergency OF.

 

Yeah I think his reputation at 1B is decent. If you look at anything (DRS, UZR, fans scouting report) his numbers are average or slightly above.

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The random guy who broke the Stanton contract is tweeting that we have signed Morales to a 3 year deal, 33 mil

 

Lets hope lightningin a bottle doesn't strike twice. Certainly don't want him for 3 years. 2 tops preferably 1.

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Giving him 3 guaranteed years would be gross.

 

Other than hit the occasional HR, what else does he do well?

 

Makes contact, switch hits, has decent slash numbers (AVG and OBP).

 

If they give him 3/$33 they are only paying him to be a slightly below average player. He really doesn't have to do much to be worth that money.

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Keep in mind that Toronto needs a DH and a 1B. Morales doesn't preclude Edwin.

 

Although of course in an ideal world at least one of your two 1B/DH options would have defensive utility elsewhere on the field.

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Signing both EE and Morales makes no sense because both are DH/1B guys. Those two would combine to cost 35 mill a season, and you'd still have a hole in the OF to fill along with the bullpen.

 

If Morales is signed, EE is a goner.

Brownie19 New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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Last 3 years he's been worth 0.8 WAR combined. Projected to be worth barely past half a win with a 109 wRC+, which is bad for a DH.

 

I don't want to sign Edwin for over 75 Million but that doesn't mean sign a bad player for 30 Million.

 

Just cherry pick his last 2 years and it looks a lot better. 120 wRC+ switch hitter. It looks like his defense was solid at 1st last year and his overall WAR #'s are suppressed by his defensive metrics (and base running), which are dragged down simply b/c he was a DH and by being stuck out in RF for 30+ innings this past year.

 

If true - I'm completely fine with this type of hitter, but I was hoping we'd go after some more versatile players and perhaps someone who wasn't such a clog on the bases. I'd also much rather him on a 2 year deal.

 

I guess Gurriel Jr. needs some Cuban fans.

burlingtonbandit New Hampshire Fisher Cats

burlingtonbandit

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Makes contact, switch hits, has decent slash numbers (AVG and OBP).

 

If they give him 3/$33 they are only paying him to be a slightly below average player. He really doesn't have to do much to be worth that money.

 

With 1-1.5 Win players you shouldn't be paying close to market value for a Win since below average players are easy to find. So Even if he puts up 4 WAR over 3 years I think thats still a bad signing.

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With 1-1.5 Win players you shouldn't be paying close to market value for a Win since below average players are easy to find. So Even if he puts up 4 WAR over 3 years I think thats still a bad signing.

 

It's kind of tough to put a WAR value on a DH.

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Does this mean no Matt Holliday? Dammit.

 

It hasn't happened yet. Read the exact same thing about Reddick earlier.

Brownie19 New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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Like why not sign Steve Pearce for similar money? He's a better hitter and has way more positional flexibility.

 

Because he doesn't want to sign in Toronto? This isn't a video game.

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Because he doesn't want to sign in Toronto? This isn't a video game.

 

Actually in video games players have interest levels and if its low you probably won't sign the guy. It can actually go lower if you lowball

him as well. I also don't think Steve Pearce would be against signing here. He would have at-bats at 1B, 2B, and a corner Outfield spot. Who knows about Travis status either!

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