Offseason Roster Thread 2016-17

[Angrioter]

Thor 2.0

[jerb]

 

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‏@NYPost_Mets

At the moment a limited market for Jay Bruce. Two teams the Mets thought were possibilities - Texas and Toronto - have minimal interest.

[ChrisS]

Billy Hams available and we're not in? We're dumb.

 

I wish we were. Wouldnt cost money and we could use that money elsewhere. Our outfield D would be awesome.

[Maahfaace]

 

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‏@NYPost_Mets

At the moment a limited market for Jay Bruce. Two teams the Mets thought were possibilities - Texas and Toronto - have minimal interest.

 

It should be zero interest from the Jays perspective.

[bzapple]

It should be zero interest from the Jays perspective.

 

I don't know why the Mets think teams should be interested in Bruce. He's been roughly replacement level over the last three years, and turning 30 next season. I could see them maybe getting a C prospect in January from team that missed on the better players available.

[polar bear]

Just wondering where Liriano is going to fit in next season ?

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

I don't know why the Mets think teams should be interested in Bruce. He's been roughly replacement level over the last three years, and turning 30 next season. I could see them maybe getting a C prospect in January from team that missed on the better players available.

 

Oh Damn, so the Jays then! Lol

[Jonn]

Starting Rotation.

[crmr]

Just wondering where Liriano is going to fit in next season ?

 

Good idea to start discussing the rotation. Should be a lock in the rotation, hopefully he can keep his walk rate down

 

Edit: Why is this thread moved? Would be nice for a place to have a clear discussion

[Governator]

Just wondering where Liriano is going to fit in next season ?

 

Unless something drastic changes he's our 5th starter.

[bzapple]

Oh Damn, so the Jays then! Lol

 

The Jays have already signed Morales and Pearce, and Pompey would be a better option than Bruce for the outfield.

[bzapple]

Edit: Why is this thread moved? Would be nice for a place to have a clear discussion

 

Agreed. Not everything needs to amalgamated into one of the three megathreads. Nothing wrong with a smaller, more pointed discussion.

[polar bear]

Unless something drastic changes he's our 5th starter.

 

Sounds good to me,got a feeling our rotation will excell this coming season.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

The Jays have already signed Morales and Pearce, and Pompey would be a better option than Bruce for the outfield.

 

True about Pompey, might be! But he said who missed out on better players. We settled for Morales and Pearce!

[Governator]

Where does Liriano fit is a question with 1 (maybe 2) answers so the purpose of moving threads like those is to informally let people know we have places for those types of questions.

 

Feel free to start a 2017 Rotation Thread with a full discussion if you wish, that's not a bad idea.

[Pendleton]

Where does Liriano fit is a question with 1 (maybe 2) answers so the purpose of moving threads like those is to informally let people know we have places for those types of questions.

 

Feel free to start a 2017 Rotation Thread with a full discussion if you wish, that's not a bad idea.

 

I started one awhile back. Should be on page two somewhere

[G-Snarls]

[Abomination]

Started off grumpy today, then saw that someone banned BBBB. My day is picking up

[Terminator]

 

Just trying to read through the lines but it seems like the Jays want Fowler and that Bautista could be the fallback plan.

[glory]

 

Sounds about right.

 

If money is equal, he'll go elsewhere and stay in CF. Jays are going to have to bump their offer up.

[G-Snarls]

Just trying to read through the lines but it seems like the Jays want Fowler and that Bautista could be the fallback plan.

 

Exactly what I think too

[Terminator]

Exactly what I think too

 

Unless there is some trade to be had they really, really need one of the two of them.

[glory]

Just trying to read through the lines but it seems like the Jays want Fowler and that Bautista could be the fallback plan.

 

Yep. Only reason to circle back to Bautista is lack of other options. If Fowler goes to the Cardinals, then Bats and his bruised ego are probably staying in Toronto.

[Brownie19]

 

C'mon boys - 4 years $70. Get it done.

[Jonn]

 

Have fun in St. Louis Dexter.

[Terminator]

Would 5 for 80 be so bad? Not much worse than 4 for 70.

 

The AAV is nice, 15 mil a year is only 1.7 WAR necessary for it to be a wash. Backend the deal a little bit and let inflation do it's work.

[Jonn]

Would 5 for 80 be so bad? Not much worse than 4 for 70.

 

The AAV is nice, 15 mil a year is only 1.7 WAR. Backend the deal a little bit and let inflation do it's work.

 

That would be gross overpay. If we lose Fowler I think they go the trade route. That doesn't automatically mean Bautista. Shapiro basically said this yesterday.

[Dr. Dinger]

Just f***ing get him already. Shatkins is obsessed with mid-market team value contracts. It's okay to slightly overpay here and there.

[Governator]

Just trying to read through the lines but it seems like the Jays want Fowler and that Bautista could be the fallback plan.

 

 

I think that's a pretty ideal strategy, however I would have preferred Bautista over Morales to replace Edwin to be honest. A solid DH bat that can be put in to the OF or 1B in a pinch. Even though he's a player in decline he still comes with the versatility by comparison and his OBP is still top of the line worthy. I guess by waiting him out, his value has plummeted to an all-time low and the Jays have the upper hand now in any negotiations but he seemed like a great option for DH and backup outfielder. I'm less of a fan if he's plugged in as the starting RF, borderline gag worthy.

[Stangstag]

Fowler wants 5/80, I think i'd be comfortable with that. He'll be 35 by the end of the deal... He's always been a great OBP guy and its not like he'll forget how to take a walk. Defense won't be any worse than Bautista's by the end of the contract. He's a perfect fit for this team right now, and we'll need a guy with his skillset if we want to seriously compete against Boston/New York