Implosion 2016

[Olerud363]

We went through this already with 5 straight years of sellouts. I'd say about 1% of these become diehard baseball fans at the most. Maybe 3 to 5 percent learn what Buck and Tabby teach them about baseball and are diehard Jays fans. The rest never returned.

 

In all seriousness... it's not like 5 years of winning will guarentee a perpetual good cycle. And it's not like another bad cycle will do lasting damage. If this winning cycle ends the casuals will leave, but will be back next winning cycle.

[Olerud363]

Boston 11 tough games coming up and Baltimore about the same. Jays playing in big parks after the Rays could be a problem........

 

Maybe they should get a temporary manager who is good at small-ball. Just for those games.

[fatcowxlive]

We went through this already with 5 straight years of sellouts. I'd say about 1% of these become diehard baseball fans at the most. Maybe 3 to 5 percent learn what Buck and Tabby teach them about baseball and are diehard Jays fans. The rest never returned.

 

Yeah but this isn't a diehard baseball city either. I'm saying the successful years will improve general knowledge of the game, all these people asking 'stupid' questions shows that the lack of baseball experience they have in viewing or playing because baseball is so irrelevant compared to other sports. I'm willing to bet that if the NY Rangers miss the playoffs for 20 years you'd have the same effect in New York because they aren't a hockey town. The same could be said when you flip scenarios, the Leafs have been s*** and if it was any other city they'd be irrelevant but because Toronto (much like the rest of Canada) is a hockey city so they'll never not sell lots of tickets and they'll never be irrelevant so the average person will have more hockey knowledge than they do baseball knowledge. Going back to NY, the Yankees can suck for the same prolonged period as the Leafs have and you'd see that they're still relevant and still bringing in better-than-expected numbers to games because NY is a baseball and basketball town.

[Olerud363]

Yeah but this isn't a diehard baseball city either. I'm saying the successful years will improve general knowledge of the game, all these people asking 'stupid' questions shows that the lack of baseball experience they have in viewing or playing because baseball is so irrelevant compared to other sports. I'm willing to bet that if the NY Rangers miss the playoffs for 20 years you'd have the same effect in New York because they aren't a hockey town. The same could be said when you flip scenarios, the Leafs have been s*** and if it was any other city they'd be irrelevant but because Toronto (much like the rest of Canada) is a hockey city so they'll never not sell lots of tickets and they'll never be irrelevant so the average person will have more hockey knowledge than they do baseball knowledge. Going back to NY, the Yankees can suck for the same prolonged period as the Leafs have and you'd see that they're still relevant and still bringing in better-than-expected numbers to games because NY is a baseball and basketball town.

 

At the end of the Yankees last down cycle (1992) they were down to 1.7 million attendance -- even this mini down cycle, which they are still getting and contending for wild cards has resulted in lower attendance and easy availability of tickets.

 

Between Boston, NY, and Toronto, NY tickets are like 20 bucks, Toronto and Boston 100 for similiar seats.

[burlingtonbandit]

The one that gets me is the people that yell DROP IT DROP IT DROP IT!!! On easy popups. Happened like 10 times yesterday.

 

Guy sitting behind me at the game yesterday was the single worst fan I have ever heard. Yelled at Gibbons for "bad coaching", called the umpire a "ref" and was chirping bautista for hitting around .200.

[TheHurl]

In all seriousness... it's not like 5 years of winning will guarentee a perpetual good cycle. And it's not like another bad cycle will do lasting damage. If this winning cycle ends the casuals will leave, but will be back next winning cycle.

 

Seems easy...keep winning. What we know right now is that prices are rising and season ticket sales are at a 15-20 year high. The drop-off, when it happens (at least the huge drop-off) is going to take a couple years at least. After that, nothing is guaranteed. Casual fans everywhere are similar...they never seem to believe in the team if they aren't in a playoff spot or leading a division. Look at Baltimore right now, drawing less on a weekend than they did last year.

[RealAccountant]

Seems easy...keep winning. What we know right now is that prices are rising and season ticket sales are at a 15-20 year high. The drop-off, when it happens (at least the huge drop-off) is going to take a couple years at least. After that, nothing is guaranteed. Casual fans everywhere are similar...they never seem to believe in the team if they aren't in a playoff spot or leading a division. Look at Baltimore right now, drawing less on a weekend than they did last year.

 

You have to take into account the economical conditions of a city as well. In Baltimore you are talking about a city that has nothing but crime rampant drug abuse.

 

People aren't going to the stadium because they don't have any money. Baltimore is a terrible place to live

[G-Snarls]

Jays and As both 3-7 over the last 10 games

 

The two worst teams in the AL over that stretch

[Governator]

Jays and As both 3-7 over the last 10 games

 

The two worst teams in the AL over that stretch

 

 

 

Thx I hadn't noticed we'd been awful.

[Krylian]

Mathematically speaking yes, twenty is infinitely greater than zero. Are we done yet?

 

1 is also infinitely greater than 0. 1% is hardly promising. And a drop from 70% to 20% is substantial. I think that's the point. To argue that it's not zero yet is not really the point.

[Dick_Pole]

Toronto will go back to not caring about this team after we miss the playoffs and then turn right back into the same team we were in 2013 and 2014.

 

So this guy got what he wanted (sort of) according to his username, and he's still unhappy and trolling. Salty Expos fan upset that he lost his team and he has to "cheer" for the other Canadian team by default.

[Pendleton]

1 is also infinitely greater than 0. 1% is hardly promising. And a drop from 70% to 20% is substantial. I think that's the point. To argue that it's not zero yet is not really the point.

 

A substantial drop in your playoff odds does not = implosion right now, that was my point. An implosion would signify that we have blown the season, is that currently the case?

[JoeCarter]

Fact is the Jays are exactly where they deserve to be, and probably commensurate with our overall talent level to boot. We're a very good, albeit flawed and aging team. I know it feels warm and cuddly to believe that our pitching staff's "true" proficiency level was the league-crushing pre-August performance, but most reasonably minds knew we were modestly overachieving, and we're seeing the entirely natural regression to the mean right now. Likewise, the hitting's been abysmal of late -- but they'll be fine. JD will get back to doing JD things, and the reports of Jose's demise are greatly exaggerated. We're a very good team talent-wise, teetering somewhere on the border of Wild Card-worthy and Division Champ, but get the short end of the stick b/c we just so happen to play in the most competitive division in baseball.

[Olerud363]

Dear Loyal Fans

 

Yesterday, an unexplainable event occurred. Implosion was proceeding as expected when a hard hit Stephen Souza fly ball died unexplainably at the warning track.

 

Our engineers are looking into this situation as we speak. The exit velocity and angle should of been sufficient for a homerun and kept the implosion on track.

 

We've worked hard to bring you an implosion and we hope that this small, unforeseen event does not delay it. We are still hoping to complete the implosion by fan appreciation day against the New York Yankees if at all possible.

 

Thank you for your patience

[mellowgold]

1 is also infinitely greater than 0. 1% is hardly promising. And a drop from 70% to 20% is substantial. I think that's the point. To argue that it's not zero yet is not really the point.

 

1 is not infinitely greater than 0.1. It is merely ten times greater. Thank you.

[TBJ12]

Dear Loyal Fans

 

Yesterday, an unexplainable event occurred. Implosion was proceeding as expected when a hard hit Stephen Souza fly ball died unexplainably at the warning track.

 

Our engineers are looking into this situation as we speak. The exit velocity and angle should of been sufficient for a homerun and kept the implosion on track.

 

We've worked hard to bring you an implosion and we hope that this small, unforeseen event does not delay it. We are still hoping to complete the implosion by fan appreciation day against the New York Yankees if at all possible.

 

Thank you for your patience

 

I still can't believe that ball didn't land in the West Jet flight deck.

[Cyborg]

1 is not infinitely greater than 0.1. It is merely ten times greater. Thank you.

 

He said 0.

1% blah blah

 

Not 0.1.

[glory]

A better question is how do you keep this team competitive after 2016? That seems like a tall order given how good Boston projects to be, and the Yankees potentially showing some signs of long term growth already. Jays are old with a farm system that is a few years away from developing big league talent. It's going to be hard. Not impossible, but hard.

[mellowgold]

He said 0.

1% blah blah

 

Not 0.1.

 

My bad.

[Molitor]

Also could we agree that x/0 is undefined and does not equal infinity

[Terminator]

A better question is how do you keep this team competitive after 2016? That seems like a tall order given how good Boston projects to be, and the Yankees potentially showing some signs of long term growth already. Jays are old with a farm system that is a few years away from developing big league talent. It's going to be hard. Not impossible, but hard.

 

Rotation all comes back. Osuna appears to be settling in as an elite reliever. Donaldson is a Top 10 player. Pillar, Tulo and Travis are all very very good starting players. Martin is a good player. The guys we do lose also free up more payroll money. Speaking of which the payroll should remain quite strong with us leading the AL in attendance.

 

I think we will be pretty good.

[Jonn]

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[bones10]

Back on schedule

[Olerud363]

Yes indeed. the goal is to be 4 back of the wild card by fan appreciation day. This is ambitious but it can be done if the yanks get hot and sweep the fan appreciation series.

 

Go baby bombers... Show the old, feeble imploding blue jays who's boss!!!!

[Olerud363]

September 13th update

 

3-8 in September

 

Imploder of the day: Marcus Stroman

 

Anticipated implosion completion: Sunday September 25th fan appreciation day (against baby bombers)

[TraviscantplayD]

Haha. Love it. Burn this team to the ground:D

[Olerud363]

Haha. Love it. Burn this team to the ground:D

 

Right now in Seattle, a shadowy figure approaches Adam Lind...

 

Shadowy Figure - How would you like an opportunity to finally get revenge on John Gibbons

 

Lind - I'd love it, that hick sent me down to the minors a couple of times, and platooned me.

 

Shadowy Figure - Every one platoons you, you can't hit lefties.

 

Lind - I might of learned if that dumb hick let me face them when I was young.

 

Shadowy Figure - shut up! Just look for the man in white when Toronto comes to town. That's right the man in white. He works for us now.

[Olerud363]

Right now in Seattle, a shadowy figure approaches Adam Lind...

 

Shadowy Figure - How would you like an opportunity to finally get revenge on John Gibbons

 

Lind - I'd love it, that hick sent me down to the minors a couple of times, and platooned me.

 

Shadowy Figure - Every one platoons you, you can't hit lefties.

 

Lind - I might of learned if that dumb hick let me face them when I was young.

 

Shadowy Figure - shut up! Just look for the man in white when Toronto comes to town. That's right the man in white. He works for us now.

 

might as well update now...

 

September 3-9

 

Imploder of the day - Marco Estrado

 

False moment of hope - Marco Estrado 3 perfect Innings

 

Gibby imploding move of the day - bunt in first inning with middle of order coming up

 

Anticipated implosion completion - Sept 25th, fan appreciation day

 

Just a little extra f*** you - Donaldson sent for MRI

[Krylian]

When will everyone be on board and call this an implosion?

[Krylian]

A substantial drop in your playoff odds does not = implosion right now, that was my point. An implosion would signify that we have blown the season, is that currently the case?

 

It's getting there fast. We're in the midst of an implosion.