Jays Acquire Harold Ramirez, Reese McGuire, Francisco Liriano for Hutch

[Rajais Mitten]

http://i.imgur.com/wFovN4O.gif

That gif always makes me feel uneasy for some reason

[gruber92]

One time I jumped to conclusions and was wrong. I'm not the only one who thought it would take a s*** load more to get Donaldson lol. Like I said I was absolutely shocked.

 

Oh please.. You were freaking out over losing Lawrie and the next Roberto Alomar in Baretto, plus a viable SP in Graveman. You were still s***ing on the deal even after the players involved were revealed. Nice try though..

[BlueJays]

They only gave up Hutchison. Amazing

[jerb]

 

Mike Wilner Verified account

‏@Wilnerness590

Atkins: We had some financial flexibility that allowed us to acquire prospects in the Liriano deal. #Bluejays #Jays

[vilifyingforce]

They only gave up Hutchison. Amazing

 

And took on ~$17M.

[fatcowxlive]

If we don't take depth into consideration, would Hutch for Ramirez + another prospect been a fair trade?

 

I think so, I think Liriano makes us out as robbers lol

[gruber92]

I hope Hutch beasts in Pittsburgh. He's awesome.

 

Lol, not really. He's good for three innings before the roof caves in. He may find moderate success in the NL though.

[Jonn]

I wonder what all the guys he's K'ing are swinging at

 

s*** probably.

[fatcowxlive]

And took on ~$17M.

 

Money ain't an issue here, also Dickey not coming back this year so that slot opened up there

 

This is exactly what Atkins has been saying since mid May: we don't have prospect depth, but we have payroll space to take on salary dumps to get value, just like this trade

[Terminator]

The only thing I don't like about this deal is that it's a net wash as far as depth is concerned. Sanchez to the BP, Liriano to the rotation in some form or fashion. What happens if Estrada's back flares up on him? No Hutch anymore. Does that mean we throw Scott Diamond in the rotation down the stretch? I guess there is always the waiver trade period.

[BlueJays]

And took on ~$17M.

lmao

[Orgfiller]

The best part of this deal is the fact that it probably means no Dickey next year.

[canadiansportsjunkie]

Just remember that, when we don't sign Bautista and Encarnacion next year, because we're obligated to spend $17 million on a negative WAR pitcher.

 

We should let Bautista walk he is asking to much....Should have locked up Edwin months ago....This company " team " has money....Trading for Liriano doesn't effect Edwin or Joey at all...

 

they are making money hand over fist right now

 

you really think that Liriano's contract will effect Bautista or Edwin?!??! come on they are out sadly

[fatcowxlive]

I wonder what all the guys he's K'ing are swinging at

 

No kidding, you don't just stumble to being a regular 8-9 K/9, his walks are up this year but that's uncharacteristic

[Abomination]

If we don't take depth into consideration, would Hutch for Ramirez + another prospect been a fair trade?

 

I think so, I think Liriano makes us out as robbers lol

 

It's exactly the kind of trade that gave teams like the Yankees and Dodgers an advantage in the past.

[jaysguy44]

The best part of this deal is the fact that it probably means no Dickey next year.

 

Yaaaay

[vilifyingforce]

Money ain't an issue here, also Dickey not coming back this year so that slot opened up there

 

This is exactly what Atkins has been saying since mid May: we don't have prospect depth, but we have payroll space to take on salary dumps to get value, just like this trade

 

Money is most certainly an issue. Jays have a limited budget. They have/had some financial space and now they used some/all of it.

[Jonn]

Oh please.. You were freaking out over losing Lawrie and the next Roberto Alomar in Baretto, plus a viable SP in Graveman. You were still s***ing on the deal even after the players involved were revealed. Nice try though..

 

You just made most of that up. I never disliked the trade however I did like Lawrie and Barretto though a lot. That's the only thing in this post that's true. I never called Barretto the next Robie Alomar. That's some dumb s*** you would say.

[King]

I hope the 2nd prospect is Nick Kingham. Just coming back from TJS could be a viable MLB starter as soon as next season.

 

But it will probably be someone lesser known.

[bones10]

The only thing I don't like about this deal is that it's a net wash as far as depth is concerned. Sanchez to the BP, Liriano to the rotation in some form or fashion. What happens if Estrada's back flares up on him? No Hutch anymore. Does that mean we throw Scott Diamond in the rotation down the stretch? I guess there is always the waiver trade period.

 

feldman

[fatcowxlive]

The only thing I don't like about this deal is that it's a net wash as far as depth is concerned. Sanchez to the BP, Liriano to the rotation in some form or fashion. What happens if Estrada's back flares up on him? No Hutch anymore. Does that mean we throw Scott Diamond in the rotation down the stretch? I guess there is always the waiver trade period.

 

It was the same case if we didn't trade hutch, they made their decision on Sanchez already. Now we have Feldmen and Bolasinger

[vilifyingforce]

feldman

 

Or Bolsinger.

[RealAccountant]

 

Mike Wilner Verified account

‏@Wilnerness590

Atkins: We had some financial flexibility that allowed us to acquire prospects in the Liriano deal. #Bluejays #Jays

 

wilner tweeted at 430 that the Jays were done, and it was okay they didn't make any moves.

 

He is going to tell us about the deal now

 

Clueless!

[Abomination]

The only thing I don't like about this deal is that it's a net wash as far as depth is concerned. Sanchez to the BP, Liriano to the rotation in some form or fashion. What happens if Estrada's back flares up on him? No Hutch anymore. Does that mean we throw Scott Diamond in the rotation down the stretch? I guess there is always the waiver trade period.

 

Probably Bolsinger who should remain stretched out in AAA. We're also assuming that Sanchez moves to the pen, but there are other scenarios.

[John_Havok]

Money ain't an issue here, also Dickey not coming back this year so that slot opened up there

 

This is exactly what Atkins has been saying since mid May: we don't have prospect depth, but we have payroll space to take on salary dumps to get value, just like this trade

 

Bingo.

 

Essentially this is the Jays agreeing to take money and and arm, for another arm and 2 prospects and the pleasure of paying Liriano 17 million for 1 year in 2017.

 

Theres no such thing as a bad one year deal.

[L54]

Lol, not really. He's good for three innings before the roof caves in. He may find moderate success in the NL though.

 

I guess I should've said I wish him well instead. Taking too much heat for my comment.

[vilifyingforce]

Probably Bolsinger who should remain stretched out in AAA. We're also assuming that Sanchez moves to the pen, but there are other scenarios.

 

Atkins said Sanchez is bullpen bound.

[RealAccountant]

I hope the 2nd prospect is Nick Kingham. Just coming back from TJS could be a viable MLB starter as soon as next season.

 

But it will probably be someone lesser known.

 

Another good prospect will make your daily threads more relevant.

[fatcowxlive]

Money is most certainly an issue. Jays have a limited budget. They have/had some financial space and now they used some/all of it.

 

I think the guys in the front office knows more about where next year's budget is than you and I do. Atkins has been, and even said again today, we have payroll flexibility

 

We're in good hands guys be happy holy

[fatcowxlive]

Bingo.

 

Essentially this is the Jays agreeing to take money and and arm, for another arm and 2 prospects and the pleasure of paying Liriano 17 million for 1 year in 2017.

 

Theres no such thing as a bad one year deal.

 

That's a QO, and something that if Liriano was offered would have rejected. Actually would probably be offered a min 3 year deal