Trading Bautista before the deadline? Is it a possibility?

[harvey16]

Just had a thought! We have proven that we can win without JB! Would there be any posibility of unloading him before the deadline? I realize that he has a no trade clause but wonder if he would waive it. We could probably get a decent starter and bullpen help. Thoughts?

[Dr. Dinger]

Delete your account

[baseballsss]

Delete your account

 

Mods please ban.

[Rusty_Savage]

Not a chance

[LGBJ29]

Just had a thought! We have proven that we can win without JB! Would there be any posibility of unloading him before the deadline? I realize that he has a no trade clause but wonder if he would waive it. We could probably get a decent starter and bullpen help. Thoughts?

 

We're not going to trade Bautista while we're in contention. Additionally a trade simply doesn't line up with any other team. Bautista would only waive to go to another contender, and its unlikely another contender will have excess MLB ready pitching to unload in order to obtain Bautista

[Grant77]

Just had a thought! We have proven that we can win without JB! Would there be any posibility of unloading him before the deadline? I realize that he has a no trade clause but wonder if he would waive it. We could probably get a decent starter and bullpen help. Thoughts?

 

If we can win without JB, just imagine what we'll do with him. No contending team is giving up a top SP for him.

[Brownie19]

The Dodgers need offense and had a ton of starters....until they all went and got hurt.

 

I still think Jose for Puig is a fit. That might actually hurt our chances this year (although we don't know what Jose post toe injury will look like - and it might look like a lot of Zeke in RF) - but definitely a possibility it's a lateral move and a small chance it's a big upgrade. Regardless, it would certainly help us moving forward.

[Dr. Dinger]

The Dodgers need offense and had a ton of starters....until they all went and got hurt.

 

I still think Jose for Puig is a fit. That might actually hurt our chances this year (although we don't know what Jose post toe injury will look like - and it might look like a lot of Zeke in RF) - but definitely a possibility it's a lateral move and a small chance it's a big upgrade. Regardless, it would certainly help us moving forward.

 

I don't see any reason why Jose would do this, let alone the Dodgers. Puig's value has tanked, but they still wouldn't trade him for 2 months of zero range, zero arm Bautista, who we all know needs to be DHing full-time. And why would he do it? It's a lateral move for him, at best, and probably much worse or his numbers and contract, not to mention the emotional aspects. Zero chance Jose would accept that trade or even consider it, and I'm sure he'd be extremely indignant if he was even asked to consider waiving his 10 & 5 rights.

[Brownie19]

I don't see any reason why Jose would do this, let alone the Dodgers. Puig's value has tanked, but they still wouldn't trade him for 2 months of zero range, zero arm Bautista, who we all know needs to be DHing full-time. And why would he do it? It's a lateral move for him, at best, and probably much worse or his numbers and contract, not to mention the emotional aspects. Zero chance Jose would accept that trade or even consider it, and I'm sure he'd be extremely indignant if he was even asked to consider waiving his 10 & 5 rights.

 

It eliminates the draft pick compensation - thus making him worth more as a FA next year. Simply put - accepting a trade will put money in his pocket without significantly affecting his opportunity to win this year.

 

I fully expect Jose would be indignant about being asked to waive his 10-5 rights - but he'd also be indignant about being asked to play 1st/DH and I know he'll be indignant when the Jays don't offer him $150M in the offseason because he's an arrogant *******. He's going to be pissed at the Jays at some point here. If I could get Puig - I'd cross that bridge now...

 

I guess this backfires if you piss him off and he refuses to waive his 10-5 rights out of spite....but then again. Jose Bautista plays better when he's angry.

[Terminator]

It eliminates the draft pick compensation - thus making him worth more as a FA next year. Simply put - accepting a trade will put money in his pocket without significantly affecting his opportunity to win this year.

 

I fully expect Jose would be indignant about being asked to waive his 10-5 rights - but he'd also be indignant about being asked to play 1st/DH and I know he'll be indignant when the Jays don't offer him $150M in the offseason because he's an arrogant *******. He's going to be pissed at the Jays at some point here. If I could get Puig - I'd cross that bridge now...

 

I guess this backfires if you piss him off and he refuses to waive his 10-5 rights out of spite....but then again. Jose Bautista plays better when he's angry.

 

Drop it with Puig! No one is trading 2 extra years of Puig at 7M each for Bautista. Especially when he's coming off an injury.

[jaysblue]

Drop it with Puig! No one is trading 2 extra years of Puig at 7M each for Bautista. Especially when he's coming off an injury.

 

Matt, did you get my trade proposal?

[GD]

Mods please ban.

 

Mods please

[Spanky99]

Delete your account

 

I believe that's Matt Harvey the Ceeb's biggest fan, you're mean Bruh!

[Nafro]

Hey our team is one game out of first. One of our best player's is coming back from injury. Should we trade him? If at any point you thought the answer to this question was yes; please do not seek out a career in professional sports management.

[CHRIS]

Personally I don't see how trading Bautista, based on reasonable expected returns, helps this team win this season. If he gets moved, or gets asked to move, it's going to be an utter donkey show in this city. It won't just be about a talent exchange, in my opinion.

 

I don't know if this is a thing or not, but it took earlier Blue Jays teams a few kicks at playoff experience before finally breaking through. I'd like to see this team going into the playoffs with as many returning players as possible.

[Angrioter]

Jose for Profar?

 

Again

[Dr. Dinger]

Jose for Profar?

 

Again

 

Yeah, let's give one of our biggest rivals an elite hitter for the playoff run. Makes tons of sense.

 

Although the comedic value of watching Rangers fans have to eat s*** and cheer for Bautista would be priceless...

[puphood]

Talk about useless threads......

[intentional wok]

Breaking rumor:

 

The Toronto Blue Jays and Buffalo Bisons are nearing a straight swap of Junior Lake and Jose Bautista. If this goes through, it will add yet another elite bat to one of the strongest lineups in the majors. Details coming Monday.

 

Analysis: Any team would bend over backwards to acquire Bautista for such a price, but the Blue Jays adding the elite slugger to their already punishing lineup makes them a legitimate division and championship contender.

[Cam Maxwell]

Talk about useless threads......

 

You guys sure like to slam posters here.

 

IF the Jays could trade Bautista they would. He sure as s*** isn't going to re-sign after this season, so it's worth exploring the possibility of moving him. Failing that, at the end of the campaign, the Jays qualify him, he rejects (naturally) then moves on to sign with another club and Toronto gets a first rounder in return. End of story.

So there's nothing wrong with looking into the possibility of trading him. It may not happen, but.......

[baloojayz]

Since we are just throwing things out there, what could a Bautista Sanchez package acquire?

[baseballsss]

You guys sure like to slam posters here.

 

IF the Jays could trade Bautista they would. He sure as s*** isn't going to re-sign after this season, so it's worth exploring the possibility of moving him. Failing that, at the end of the campaign, the Jays qualify him, he rejects (naturally) then moves on to sign with another club and Toronto gets a first rounder in return. End of story.

So there's nothing wrong with looking into the possibility of trading him. It may not happen, but.......

 

Some people would get banned for posts like this and some people wouldn't. Mods/board are ass backwards. Some people are aloud to swear and call other posters names and some people aren't. Hell some people legit get banned for doing nothing wrong around here.

[Boxcar]

You guys sure like to slam posters here.

 

IF the Jays could trade Bautista they would. He sure as s*** isn't going to re-sign after this season, so it's worth exploring the possibility of moving him. Failing that, at the end of the campaign, the Jays qualify him, he rejects (naturally) then moves on to sign with another club and Toronto gets a first rounder in return. End of story.

So there's nothing wrong with looking into the possibility of trading him. It may not happen, but.......

 

The problem with that is the Jays are in the same position as the teams who would want to acquire him. It's like saying the Red Sox should deal Price now to get a better return before he opts out of his deal next year(?). You're also not going to get much more than what that comp pick would net you anyway, in all likelihood. All you're doing is throwing in the towel in the middle of the playoff race, drastically reducing the chances of winning the division and sending a clearly negative message to the fanbase. It's just not very wise.

[Governator]

You guys sure like to slam posters here.

 

IF the Jays could trade Bautista they would. He sure as s*** isn't going to re-sign after this season, so it's worth exploring the possibility of moving him. Failing that, at the end of the campaign, the Jays qualify him, he rejects (naturally) then moves on to sign with another club and Toronto gets a first rounder in return. End of story.

So there's nothing wrong with looking into the possibility of trading him. It may not happen, but.......

 

 

If this team was a .460 team and not a .560 team then yes... but we are about to bolster our line up down the home stretch with an already >80% odds of being a postseason team. He is a monster boost to this line up.

[Pendleton]

Breaking rumor:

 

The Toronto Blue Jays and Buffalo Bisons are nearing a straight swap of Junior Lake and Jose Bautista. If this goes through, it will add yet another elite bat to one of the strongest lineups in the majors. Details coming Monday.

 

Analysis: Any team would bend over backwards to acquire Bautista for such a price, but the Blue Jays adding the elite slugger to their already punishing lineup makes them a legitimate division and championship contender.

 

I thought Shapiro didn't believe in giving up top prospects for rentals?

[Spanky99]

Some people would get banned for posts like this and some people wouldn't. Mods/board are ass backwards. Some people are aloud to swear and call other posters names and some people aren't. Hell some people legit get banned for doing nothing wrong around here.

 

Tiny violin... *rinse and repeat*

[harvey16]

I'm the OP. I don't think it's a rediculous idea to entertain the possibility. We know we're not gonna resign him, he's already made it clear he wants a huge contract that the Jays won't offer him. He's a horrible defender and basically a DH at this point. We have the offense to carry us through the playoffs without him, what we need is pitching! If we can get a #3 type starter and a solid bullpen guy, we would be stupid not to pull the trigger. Whether or not they are any possible suitors out there is a different story though.

[Spanky99]

I'm the OP. I don't think it's a rediculous idea to entertain the possibility. We know we're not gonna resign him, he's already made it clear he wants a huge contract that the Jays won't offer him. He's a horrible defender and basically a DH at this point. He have the offense to carry us through the playoffs, what we need is pitching! If we can get a #3 type starter and a solid bullpen guy, we would be stupid not to pull the trigger. Whether or not they are any possible suitors out there is a different story though.

 

Which is what everyone is saying, just keep him, no contenders are giving you that, this is redundant, to be honest. Bautista won't waive his 10-5 rights to go to a s*** team, period.

[baseballsss]

Which is what everyone is saying, just keep him, no contenders are giving you that, this is redundant, to be honest. Bautista won't waive his 10-5 rights to go to a s*** team, period.

 

Well assuming Bautista is all about getting the biggest contract possible like Brownie(?) mentioned it would be in his best interest to except a trade. It'll get rid of the qualifying offer.

 

But that's assuming he doesn't care about winning.

[Cyborg]

Bautista is worth more to us than a pitcher because his replacemnt (Carrera) is much worse than the pitcher that would be replaced.

 

Trading him would be very dumb unless we get some elite low risk prospect that could make an impact this year. Having Bautista for the stretch run and getting a pick should be much better than any package, since we are fighting for the WS and the kist important season is this one.