General 2016 Blue Jays discussion thread

[G-Snarls]

And it's not just been the pen... it's often been offensive failures too

[crazy47larry]

AL Losses when leading after 6:

BAL: 4

BOS: 3

CHW: 4

CLE: 2

DET: 4

HOU: 4

KC 4

LAA: 4

MIN: 4

NYY: 3

OAK: 5

SEA: 7

TEX: 4

TB: 7

TOR: 11

 

lol christ

[Spanky99]

Why is Morales all of a sudden a lock to be in the pen? He's not good....

 

Our FO, thinks different.

[Spanky99]

AL Losses when leading after 6:

BAL: 4

BOS: 3

CHW: 4

CLE: 2

DET: 4

HOU: 4

KC 4

LAA: 4

MIN: 4

NYY: 3

OAK: 5

SEA: 7

TEX: 4

TB: 7

TOR: 11

 

Yikes!

[BlueJayWay]

Credit goes to James J on twitter for that

 

Boston, Baltimore, NY have combined for 10 losses when leading into the 7th, compared to the Jays 11 on their own.

 

Btw Jays have a 33-11 record in those games overall. Apparently those 44 games are the 2nd most in MLB (to the Cubs) for leading after 6 innings.

[RealAccountant]

Goes on to show you the biggest weakness on the team

[West Texas Forever]

Shapiro on the 590 right meow.

 

http://player.sportsnet590.ca/

[intentional wok]

Goes on to show you the biggest weakness on the team

 

It's a damning number compared to the other AL teams but I'd still like to see the magnitude of each loss. How many leads were single-run and thus open to bloops and bunts to erase.

 

On the other hand, the blown leads were also fairly frequent early in the season. I don't think the bullpen has been particularly bad lately even though the early track record was rocky.

[RealAccountant]

I think that it would be a huge mistake not to cash in at trading EE at the deadline, especially if a ready for MLB front line pitcher is available.

[thatoneguy]

AL Losses when leading after 6:

BAL: 4

BOS: 3

CHW: 4

CLE: 2

DET: 4

HOU: 4

KC 4

LAA: 4

MIN: 4

NYY: 3

OAK: 5

SEA: 7

TEX: 4

TB: 7

TOR: 11

 

[Krylian]

And it's not just been the pen... it's often been offensive failures too

 

Well...to be fair, the stat does say leading after 6. Which means the offense gave them the lead with 3 innings left in the game. That's mainly on the pen.

[ChrisS]

The Jays are 10th in runs per game in all of MLB. The offence hasnt played to its potential but the issue is our bullpen costs us too many close games.

The Rangers are allowing 4.26/game, same as us. They have scored only .29/game more than us, 4.94 vs 4.65, yet they are 23 games above .500, the Jays are 4 above. Jays are 8-13 in one run games, Rangers 17-5!

[G-Snarls]

Atkins: ‘No reason’ to move Sanchez or Stroman to bullpen right now

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/atkins-no-reason-move-sanchez-stroman-bullpen-right-now/

[KevinGregg]

The Jays are 10th in runs per game in all of MLB. The offence hasnt played to its potential but the issue is our bullpen costs us too many close games.

The Rangers are allowing 4.26/game, same as us. They have scored only .29/game more than us, 4.94 vs 4.65, yet they are 23 games above .500, the Jays are 4 above. Jays are 8-13 in one run games, Rangers 17-5!

 

so would we say the rangers are lucky so far this year, or the jays unlucky?

[burlingtonbandit]

Not sure why you say this. They aren't that different from Loup's (611 OPS against versus Loup's 582).

 

Not a fan of using OPS when Loup has pitched in much more difficult ballparks his entire career.

[Jonn]

Not a fan of using OPS when Loup has pitched in much more difficult ballparks his entire career.

 

You have always had a soft spot for Loup.

[BigCecil]

Watching NYY getting beat by TEX 5-1 and selfishly loving the fear and disappointment in the voices of the Yank's announcers.

 

Would love to the f***ing O's take a nosedive anytime soon. Their offense has been ridiculous and their pitching is better than it should be.

[glory]

Atkins: ‘No reason’ to move Sanchez or Stroman to bullpen right now

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/atkins-no-reason-move-sanchez-stroman-bullpen-right-now/

 

Atkins has always said this, while Shapiro has mentioned an innings limit (I think), and Gibbons (I can only imagine speaking on behalf of the org) said Sanchez moving to the pen will happen.

 

They are all over the place. Just don't mention anything and let whatever happens happen. If he shows signs of fatigue and is breaking down towards August or so, then make the move. No need to keep mentioning it.

[G-Snarls]

We are now in a virtual tie with the Red Sox for 2nd place

 

Fook Yeh

[THANOS]

Atkins has always said this, while Shapiro has mentioned an innings limit (I think), and Gibbons (I can only imagine speaking on behalf of the org) said Sanchez moving to the pen will happen.

 

They are all over the place. Just don't mention anything and let whatever happens happen. If he shows signs of fatigue and is breaking down towards August or so, then make the move. No need to keep mentioning it.

 

I have a feeling Gibbons is really pushing for Sanchez to be in the BP, while Shapiro and Atkins are more relaxed about it depending on Sanchez' continued success.

[intentional wok]

Watching NYY getting beat by TEX 5-1 and selfishly loving the fear and disappointment in the voices of the Yank's announcers.

 

Would love to the f***ing O's take a nosedive anytime soon. Their offense has been ridiculous and their pitching is better than it should be.

 

Last year during the division race I spoke to a Yankee fan fairly frequently and he was pretty down about the Yanks' chances v the Jays. I remember being polite and giving him the not-over-till-it's-over talk, but deep down I felt dirty, like a traitor who sold out his tribe.

 

A Blue Jay fan consoling a Yankee fan over the Yanks trailing a playoff race... disgusting.

[jaysfan2014]

Cecil expected to return tomorrow, and possibly Morales as well. Tepera and Schultz are expected to be sent to Buffalo (AAA). And boy the Jays pen needs it.. and really never wants to see Coors Field again, where pitchers get destroyed regularly on either team..

[Sparky12]

Cecil expected to return tomorrow, and possibly Morales as well. Tepera and Schultz are expected to be sent to Buffalo (AAA). And boy the Jays pen needs it.. and really never wants to see Coors Field again, where pitchers get destroyed regularly on either team..

Tepera down is a no brainier, I wouldn't send down Schultz tho

[Trouba95]

Tough series with Indians. At worst I hope we split though. We need to make a statement at home.

[STLJaysFan]

I'd be happy with a 6-5 record on this next home stand, preferably 7-4, but Cleveland is obviously hot and Kansas City and Detroit have played better lately. Doesn't look like Ventura is going to pitch in the series against the Blue Jays as he just pitched Tuesday and got lit up against the Cardinals. He's scheduled to pitch in Philadelphia prior to Toronto so hopefully he gets beaned and booed in the unfriendly confines of a national league park!

[burlingtonbandit]

Indians have 12 straight damn.

[STLJaysFan]

Hopefully by the end of the weekend, the Blue Jays front office will have worked out a deal with their Cleveland buddies to keep some of the Indians north of the border when they leave town on Sunday!! f***in LeBron James, I blame this all on him!! He's given the players for all the teams in The Mistake By The Lake too much confidence and a winning attitude now!!

[BigCecil]

Watching NYY getting beat by TEX 5-1 and selfishly loving the fear and disappointment in the voices of the Yank's announcers.

 

Would love to the f***ing O's take a nosedive anytime soon. Their offense has been ridiculous and their pitching is better than it should be.

 

Last year during the division race I spoke to a Yankee fan fairly frequently and he was pretty down about the Yanks' chances v the Jays. I remember being polite and giving him the not-over-till-it's-over talk, but deep down I felt dirty, like a traitor who sold out his tribe.

 

A Blue Jay fan consoling a Yankee fan over the Yanks trailing a playoff race... disgusting.

 

Haha. After we wrote this the Yanks battled back to win an epic comeback. Never take your foot off the head of a snake. We must never consort with the enemy.

[Pendleton]

Indians have 12 straight damn.

 

I was just looking at the probable pitchers, dang they have a nice rotation.

[G-Snarls]

I was just looking at the probable pitchers, dang they have a nice rotation.

 

It's pretty spectacular

 

We're in tough - Carrasco, Tomlin, Bauer and Kluber