General 2016 Blue Jays discussion thread

[Sorrow]

Smoak and Saunders out of tonight's line up, Bautista returns to RF.

 

I'm actually a bit surprised we didn't bring up another OF, even if it's someone like Lake.

[RealAccountant]

Smoak and Saunders out of tonight's line up, Bautista returns to RF.

 

I'm actually a bit surprised we didn't bring up another OF, even if it's someone like Lake.

 

We need to win both these games keep the good vibes going

[THANOS]

Barker is being especially idiotic right now. He's trying to convince the listeners than Devon Travis will go to AAA when Tulo is activated LOL.

[Terminator]

Barker is being especially idiotic right now. He's trying to convince the listeners than Devon Travis will go to AAA when Tulo is activated LOL.

 

That wouldn't shock me if he doesn't show improvement by then. He didn't get ST and he got a very limited number of AB's in the minors before being bought back. Might be best for him to go to AAA to get his sea legs.

[intentional wok]

Barker is being especially idiotic right now. He's trying to convince the listeners than Devon Travis will go to AAA when Tulo is activated LOL.

 

Barker is a doof but Travis missed almost a whole year + this year's ST. It's not inconceivable to go with Barney as the regular so Trav can get some reps in. I don't even know if that would be a good idea, but way dumber things have happened.

[Daniel Labude]

Barker is a doof but Travis missed almost a whole year + this year's ST. It's not inconceivable to go with Barney as the regular so Trav can get some reps in. I don't even know if that would be a good idea, but way dumber things have happened.

 

Goins starting 2 games in a row might signal that they feel Barney is cooling off.

 

Barney is 0 for his last 10, while Travis is 4 for his last 9.

[Jonn]

So Hutch is taking Sanchez rotation spot when Sanchez moves to the pen in the second half lol.

[G-Snarls]

So Hutch is taking Sanchez rotation spot when Sanchez moves to the pen in the second half lol.

 

Said who?

[Jonn]

Said who?

 

Gibbons its on twitter.

[puphood]

It goes by overall winning % before head to head record.

thanks for that clarification.

[Jonn]

https://twitter.com/gregormlb/status/

[Jonn]

https://twitter.com/gregormlb/status

[Jonn]

I don't understand how pitching out of the pen 4 or 5 times every week instead of pitching every 5 days is going to protect his arm. Gibbons will use him in the 8th everytime we have the lead.

 

Just leave him where hes at until he struggles. Just give him an extra day everytime we have an off day and even skip him if hes line to face a terrible opponent. We have 2 legit spot starter options in AAA. They could make this work.

[BigCecil]

Barker is a doof but Travis missed almost a whole year + this year's ST. It's not inconceivable to go with Barney as the regular so Trav can get some reps in. I don't even know if that would be a good idea, but way dumber things have happened.

 

Probably wouldn't hurt but Travis is having some good ABs. I don't think he is far off. He is missing some pitches away still he was driving last year.

 

He doesn't look overmatched like Goins and Barney is coming back down to earth.

[Stangstag]

So Hutch is taking Sanchez rotation spot when Sanchez moves to the pen in the second half lol.

 

Why is this lol? We all knew it was coming

[Stangstag]

I don't understand how pitching out of the pen 4 or 5 times every week instead of pitching every 5 days is going to protect his arm. Gibbons will use him in the 8th everytime we have the lead.

 

Just leave him where hes at until he struggles. Just give him an extra day everytime we have an off day and even skip him if hes line to face a terrible opponent. We have 2 legit spot starter options in AAA. They could make this work.

 

Innings count dude

[Jonn]

Why is this lol? We all knew it was coming

 

I thought the plan was to shut him down completely. If the plan is to actually have him pitch as the setup man it actually makes zero sense.

[Jonn]

Innings count dude

 

Wouldnt logic suggest pitching more frequently would lead to more wear and tear? If they really care about innings start limiting him to 5 right now. Possibly let him go longer if he has a low pitch count.

[Stangstag]

Wouldnt logic suggest pitching more frequently would lead to more wear and tear? If they really care about innings start limiting him to 5 right now. Possibly let him go longer if he has a low pitch count.

 

You do understand that a Major League Baseball club has numerous certified experts to give them advice right? They obviously think/know that it's better to have Sanchez pitch from the bullpen (maybe 4-5 innings per week) versus starting (more around an average of 12 innings per week)

[burlingtonbandit]

You do understand that a Major League Baseball club has numerous certified experts to give them advice right? They obviously think/know that it's better to have Sanchez pitch from the bullpen (maybe 4-5 innings per week) versus starting (more around an average of 12 innings per week)

 

Maybe if there was a set schedule but with the way Gibbons managers I'm not so sure. We've seen relievers like Osuna, Floyd and Biagini all battle fatigue out of the pen this year and the way Sanchez will be used I don't see how it will be any different.

[Jonn]

You do understand that a Major League Baseball club has numerous certified experts to give them advice right? They obviously think/know that it's better to have Sanchez pitch from the bullpen (maybe 4-5 innings per week) versus starting (more around an average of 12 innings per week)

 

I do and I also understand they haven't had any consistent results. And as burlingtonbandit said right above me the way Gibbons uses his bullpen this wouldn't work out well. A set schedule possibly but if its a game we need to win and your schedule says you can't use Gibbons are you really going to tie the hands of your manager?

 

I'm sorry but it doesn't make a lot of sense. The adjustment alone to pitching every 5 days into doing back to back outings would take its toll.

[baseballsss]

I don't understand how pitching out of the pen 4 or 5 times every week instead of pitching every 5 days is going to protect his arm. Gibbons will use him in the 8th everytime we have the lead.

 

Just leave him where hes at until he struggles. Just give him an extra day everytime we have an off day and even skip him if hes line to face a terrible opponent. We have 2 legit spot starter options in AAA. They could make this work.

 

BBBB posted earlier he has pitched more innings than Stroman has the last 3 years anyways including minors. If that is true than this makes no sense.

[candymartinez]

You do understand that a Major League Baseball club has numerous certified experts to give them advice right? They obviously think/know that it's better to have Sanchez pitch from the bullpen (maybe 4-5 innings per week) versus starting (more around an average of 12 innings per week)

 

Sure they have "certified experts" (lol), however, the results from these innings limits that are imposed on pitchers aren't reducing injuries.

So, there is no point in Sanchez pitching less.

[Stangstag]

I do and I also understand they haven't had any consistent results. And as burlingtonbandit said right above me the way Gibbons uses his bullpen this wouldn't work out well. A set schedule possibly but if its a game we need to win and your schedule says you can't use Gibbons are you really going to tie the hands of your manager?

 

I'm sorry but it doesn't make a lot of sense. The adjustment alone to pitching every 5 days into doing back to back outings would take its toll.

 

Well I mean you're entitled to your opinion, but you really have no evidence/expertise to back up your stance.

[baseballsss]

Well I mean you're entitled to your opinion, but you really have no evidence/expertise to back up your stance.

 

There is no evidence to back up yours either. Gov did post earlier about children pitching more games growing up that is why pitchers are being babied more often now. In the end there is no evidence to suggest that babying them is going to prolong their career as every year more and more injuries are happening.

[G-Snarls]

I thought the plan was to shut him down completely. If the plan is to actually have him pitch as the setup man it actually makes zero sense.

 

No

 

Gibbons said in April that Sanchez would start the season in the rotation then move to the bullpen "at some point"

 

He deliberately avoiding mentioning numbers of innings or any such thhing

[Terminator]

I do and I also understand they haven't had any consistent results. And as burlingtonbandit said right above me the way Gibbons uses his bullpen this wouldn't work out well. A set schedule possibly but if its a game we need to win and your schedule says you can't use Gibbons are you really going to tie the hands of your manager?

 

I'm sorry but it doesn't make a lot of sense. The adjustment alone to pitching every 5 days into doing back to back outings would take its toll.

 

Lol I can't tell if you're a troll or if you actually mean the s*** you post.

 

Let Sanchez get to 110 innings as a starter. Then let him throw 40 out of the pen the rest of the way. Or 120 and 30 or whatever you come up with. Something like that isn't that complicated at all yet in your head you've managed to make some sort of convoluted argument that it is. lol

[candymartinez]

Lol I can't tell if you're a troll or if you actually mean the s*** you post.

 

Let Sanchez get to 110 innings as a starter. Then let him throw 40 out of the pen the rest of the way. Or 120 and 30 or whatever you come up with. Something like that isn't that complicated at all yet in your head you've managed to make some sort of convoluted argument that it is. lol

 

Problem is, where is the evidence that doing this is beneficial?

 

They should just stick to him pitching his turn in the rotation and not try to beat the injury fairy.

[THANOS]

Problem is, where is the evidence that doing this is beneficial?

 

They should just stick to him pitching his turn in the rotation and not try to beat the injury fairy.

 

Yep, I'd much rather they begin pitching him on 6-7 days rest post ASB and try to stretch him as a starter into the post-season for us.

[Jonn]

Lol I can't tell if you're a troll or if you actually mean the s*** you post.

 

Let Sanchez get to 110 innings as a starter. Then let him throw 40 out of the pen the rest of the way. Or 120 and 30 or whatever you come up with. Something like that isn't that complicated at all yet in your head you've managed to make some sort of convoluted argument that it is. lol

 

That was a completely serious post. I don't think your reaction was exactly necessary. If you disagree that's fine. But that's a lot of work out of the pen. Especially at that point in the season. But whatever it is what it is.