General 2016 Blue Jays discussion thread

[Atothe]

He is not that good a fielder and hot and cold at the bat. Why pay marginal players 5m and have so many up and comers stuck at 500k. Things need to be balanced out a bit. Three or 4 of the high price help are not worth their money and should be cut free.

JMHO

 

Wat?

[Krylian]

He is not that good a fielder and hot and cold at the bat. Why pay marginal players 5m and have so many up and comers stuck at 500k. Things need to be balanced out a bit. Three or 4 of the high price help are not worth their money and should be cut free.

JMHO

 

Then let him walk. Cause he's getting at least twice what you're offering on the open market.

[fatcowxlive]

Anyone have a Tulo update?

 

He's activated!!!!

 

Andy Burns optioned

[Governator]

He is not that good a fielder and hot and cold at the bat. Why pay marginal players 5m and have so many up and comers stuck at 500k. Things need to be balanced out a bit. Three or 4 of the high price help are not worth their money and should be cut free.

JMHO

 

... all minor league contracts selected begin at min league salary.

[Hal Johnson]

[intentional wok]

 

Seems aggressive considering he got shut down. Has he been in many games since the setback?

 

His presence should mitigate any loss of production from Jose's absence, though. Lineup is still pretty scary, tbh.

[glory]

Give Saunders the qualifying offer. So many options after that (extend him ala Estrada, he accepts, or he declines and you get a pick).

 

Doing anything now when he's at the absolute height of his value would be foolish.

 

The Jays window to win is 2016. Saunders is having a career year in 2016. Enjoy it and hope it leads to the promised land. Worry about 2017-beyond after the season, because there are way too many red flags with him to get tied down right now.

[BTS]

Give Saunders the qualifying offer. So many options after that (extend him ala Estrada, he accepts, or he declines and you get a pick).

 

Doing anything now when he's at the absolute height of his value would be foolish.

 

The Jays window to win is 2016. Saunders is having a career year in 2016. Enjoy it and hope it leads to the promised land. Worry about 2017-beyond after the season, because there are way too many red flags with him to get tied down right now.

 

Yup. Let it play out. If the QO system is still there, offer it to him.

[Jonn]

Not sure why they rushed Tulo back. Could have gave him a longer rehab stint.

[ElNik2013]

It's sort of like how so many were so eager to offer Melky a contract during the 2014 season and were freaking out because the team didn't make much of an effort to re-sign him and instead they traded Happ for Saunders. There are always options out there.

 

But yeah, that off season was absolutely awesome. JD, Martin, Travis, Saunders, Estrada.

 

Also, I was thinking the other day how terrible it was to have kept JPA over Gomes. However, keeping Pillar over Gose and getting Travis has been huge.

 

Just goes to show, players emerge that weren't expected to. Who knows, maybe Pompey will get a chance to provide value on both defense and offense next year or even later on this year.

 

Again, relax, the franchise isn't crippled like so many thought after the 2013 debacle.

[ElNik2013]

Oh and the Tigers let go of Carrera immediately after getting Gose and the Jays picked him up. So basically, the Jays kept Pillar and traded Gose for Travis and Carrera.

[bones10]

Was tulo bitching about doing a rehab stint or something? How many games did he even have under his belt before he got shutdown? 2? He's going to be terrible..

[intentional wok]

Not sure why they rushed Tulo back. Could have gave him a longer rehab stint.

 

They rushed him back because they're out Bautista for the next two weeks. They could have given him a longer rehab period but I don't think it's a mystery why they activated him ahead of time.

 

Is a recovering Tulo worse than Goins? No way. If he's healthy enough to play MiLB, he's healthy enough to play MLB.

[Belliss101]

I don't know how to copy and paste a tweet... But everyone go see Bob McCown tweet from 40 minutes ago. A guy that hardly ever tweets has tweeted that Bautista has canceled his golf tournament as he is expecting to be traded at the deadline.

[baubau]

I don't know how to copy and paste a tweet... But everyone go see Bob McCown tweet from 40 minutes ago. A guy that hardly ever tweets has tweeted that Bautista has canceled his golf tournament as he is expecting to be traded at the deadline.

 

Still waiting on that Gibbons being fired comment he made last year. Lets work on getting one thing right at a time first Bobbo.

[fatcowxlive]

Yup. Let it play out. If the QO system is still there, offer it to him.

 

You're talking about the new CBA at the end of the year right? Isn't the offseason changes effective the following offseason?

[fatcowxlive]

They rushed him back because they're out Bautista for the next two weeks. They could have given him a longer rehab period but I don't think it's a mystery why they activated him ahead of time.

 

Is a recovering Tulo worse than Goins? No way. If he's healthy enough to play MiLB, he's healthy enough to play MLB.

 

100% agree. I just hope they physically didn't rush him, as in his quad is fully healed and he won't suffer another setback (he's starting at SS so you get the feeling he's fit physically). He can start getting his timing right up here, we're crushing the ball we can wait him out.

[intentional wok]

100% agree. I just hope they physically didn't rush him, as in his quad is fully healed and he won't suffer another setback (he's starting at SS so you get the feeling he's fit physically). He can start getting his timing right up here, we're crushing the ball we can wait him out.

 

For a FO who has already stated they'll be moving the team's best starter to the pen by August, I have to think they wouldn't make a desperation move with Tulo while the team is scoring 60 runs a game daily and 1 GB out of the division lead with two days off next week. Tulo may not be up to speed, but he's healthy enough to play.

[Belliss101]

Still waiting on that Gibbons being fired comment he made last year. Lets work on getting one thing right at a time first Bobbo.

 

Maybe Bautista canceled his golf tournament because he lost his golf clubs?

[Slade]

As usual Bobcat talking out of his ass.

 

Gregor ChisholmVerified account

‏@gregorMLB

Bautista sent word through #BlueJays PR that his golf tournament has not been cancelled. Let's also keep in mind #BlueJays 1 game out of 1st

[Atothe]

As usual Bobcat talking out of his ass.

 

Gregor ChisholmVerified account

‏@gregorMLB

Bautista sent word through #BlueJays PR that his golf tournament has not been cancelled. Let's also keep in mind #BlueJays 1 game out of 1st

 

Bob McCowan is a real jackass for dreading false rumors.

[fatcowxlive]

For a FO who has already stated they'll be moving the team's best starter to the pen by August, I have to think they wouldn't make a desperation move with Tulo while the team is scoring 60 runs a game daily and 1 GB out of the division lead with two days off next week. Tulo may not be up to speed, but he's healthy enough to play.

 

Yes you're right that makes sense

[fatcowxlive]

I don't know how to copy and paste a tweet... But everyone go see Bob McCown tweet from 40 minutes ago. A guy that hardly ever tweets has tweeted that Bautista has canceled his golf tournament as he is expecting to be traded at the deadline.

 

I'm pretty sure I heard him say he lost his password to his Twitter earlier in the week, could actually be hacked

[Belliss101]

I'm pretty sure I heard him say he lost his password to his Twitter earlier in the week, could actually be hacked

 

Probably true

[fatcowxlive]

Probably true

 

Yeah I'm not the only one who remembers that:

 

[John_Havok]

Its weird cuz it feels like this year I have seen Pillar botch a few more plays in CF than last year.

 

This is one of the reasons that most people don't fully understand certain defensive metrics and what they really represent.

 

What they do not represent is the few misplays every players makes every year nor how many highlight real plays they make. WhIle they do take those plays into account, they cover every play a fielder makes, how difficult that play is (on a scale of how probable the play is going to be an out) and how many outs they make on those plays in relation to league average. Pillar has made his share of highlight reel plays and mental mistakes, but overall he is converting far more plays into outs on balls hit to his zone than league average.

 

And right now he's doing it at an insane pace

[VE2OH]

they rushed him back because they're out bautista for the next two weeks. They could have given him a longer rehab period but i don't think it's a mystery why they activated him ahead of time.

 

Is a recovering tulo worse than goins? No way. If he's healthy enough to play milb, he's healthy enough to play mlb.

 

lol

[Krylian]

Brett Cecil felt good after throwing a simulated game today. Blue Jays will continue to ramp up his throwing program; no return timeline yet

 

- Arden Zwelling's Twitter

[Krylian]

Informed that Jose's golf event has been moved...not cancelled. Apologies.

 

-Bobcats Twitter

[Key22]

What will it take to resign Saunders and his .997 OPS? Age = 29 but this is first "good year"

 

4-5 years $12million per? Is it better to sign him before he reaches free agency, or is he just a 3 month hot streak? At this point he's a much better target than Jose Bautista.