General 2016 Blue Jays discussion thread

[Pendleton]

 

Rough day at the office

[King]

 

Rough day at the office

 

http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/6325-MiLB-Recap-May-30th-2016?p=937661&styleid=2#post937661

[RealAccountant]

Pompey's future coming into question due to constant injuries

[Brownie19]

I can't imagine to better off season FA signings than Happ and Estrada.

 

I know AA left a bunch of recommendations to the new FO before he left. It'd be interesting to see if he recommending signing either of those two.

 

I believe I remember reading that AA and his staff were researching Happ last August/September....targeting him for the offseason.

[Brownie19]

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=6&season=2016&month=0&season1=2016&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=3,d

 

Estrada has been an ace so far

 

Any thoughts on why Estrada's BB/9 has gone up so much this season? SSS - or is he nibbling more?

[Cyborg]

Any thoughts on why Estrada's BB/9 has gone up so much this season? SSS - or is he nibbling more?

 

Combo of three things. Zone rate down, O-swing rate slightly down, and Contact rate down. With more Ks usually comes more BB's due to less balls in play to end PAs.

[BigCecil]

 

Crap. One of the few things we have been lucky with is the overall play of Zeke with a .8 WAR to date. Cant ask for much more than that from a 4th OF at league min.

[baloojayz]

Combo of three things. Zone rate down, O-swing rate slightly down, and Contact rate down. With more Ks usually comes more BB's due to less balls in play to end PAs.

 

Well also he has that Dickey inning where he can't find the strike zone.

[G-Snarls]

Starting to get the annoying "Vote For Blue Jays!" all star stuff

 

I can't think of anyone who really deserves to make it other than Osuna

[G-Snarls]

I don't think any of the position players (all you can vote for of course) deserve it

 

And Edwin's head looks like it's going fall off

 

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Still trying to figure out the our bullpen has or is being overused comment by Gibbons or does the front office believe this also???

 

We have only used them for 134 innings, the top five innings pitch by relievers average is 180, top five by ERA is 153 and in both cases neither have played or average 53 games!

 

So is the bullpens struggles overuse

Or underuse the issue to overall performance or sharpness of our pen?

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Let's start a write in Vote for Spanky!

[puphood]

Well also he has that Dickey inning where he can't find the strike zone.

I would tend to agree however I would say it is more that he seems to loose control of a specific pitch and continues to try and get that pitch in for a strike. As a big fan of Estrada I wouldn't crisis his control as he seems to usually get it together and pull it off in the end unlike Dickey.......

[baloojayz]

I would tend to agree however I would say it is more that he seems to loose control of a specific pitch and continues to try and get that pitch in for a strike. As a big fan of Estrada I wouldn't crisis his control as he seems to usually get it together and pull it off in the end unlike Dickey.......

 

Oh far from it man, big fan, I never miss an Estrada start.

[Stangstag]

Starting to get the annoying "Vote For Blue Jays!" all star stuff

 

I can't think of anyone who really deserves to make it other than Osuna

 

Maybe Saunders, but that's it

[TRM]

Ummm, Josh Donaldson?

[Cyborg]

Maybe Saunders, but that's it

 

C Perez

C Wieters

C Castro

1B Cabrera

1B Hosmer

2B Altuve

2B Cano

SS Bogaerts

SS Lindor

SS/3B Machado

3B Donaldson

3B Castellanos?

OF Trout

OF Bradley

OF Springer

OF Bautista

OF Saunders

OF Trumbo (lol)

DH Ortiz

DH Martinez

DH Cruz?

[gojays99]

Just saw a quote from Jose saying he would be stupid to leave the Jays in free agency

[G-Snarls]

Ummm, Josh Donaldson?

 

No

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=11493&position=3B

[G-Snarls]

I love Donaldson as much as anyone on here

 

But Machado has been as good or better in literally every important category. And worth a lot more WAR.

 

It sucks but he's been better

[TRM]

I love Donaldson as much as anyone on here

 

But Machado has been as good or better in literally every important category. And worth a lot more WAR.

 

It sucks but he's been better

 

Machado has played more games at SS than at 3B

[G-Snarls]

Machado has played more games at SS than at 3B

 

True, but it doesn't matter. Machado is listed under 3B for voting choices

 

Edit: Oh, in terms of WAR it would though...

[ChrisS]

I don't count the stats of a league where 11.11% of the at bats are automatic outs

Its even more remarkable when you consider he pitches in more hitter friendly ballparks

[Terminator]

Despite the 5 game losing streak the Jays finish the month of May at 17-12.

 

Fangraphs Playoff Odds up to 42.9%.

[bones10]

Next two games are tough, Tanaka and Price@Boston.

 

Would be nice to win tomorrow's and 2 of 3 agin from the sox

[Spanky99]

Despite the 5 game losing streak the Jays finish the month of May at 17-12.

 

Fangraphs Playoff Odds up to 42.9%.

 

They finished 11-3.

[Spanky99]

Next two games are tough, Tanaka and Price@Boston.

 

Would be nice to win tomorrow's and 2 of 3 agin from the sox

 

It would, and we can.

[Terminator]

Offense slowly turning a corner. Starting pitching continues to perform strong. Barney and Carrera providing decent play off the much maligned bench. Biagini, Floyd, etc. stabilizing the bullpen. Cecil starting to throw. Shatkins just made a nifty trade. Should pass the O's for 2nd place sometime in the next week or two at this rate.

 

Man what a difference two weeks makes. Feels good.

[Yorkshire Blue Jay]

They finished 11-3.

 

Err they finished 9-3 after being swept by Tampa. 3-1@Twins, 2-1@Yankees, 2-1 v Red Sox and 2-0 so far against the Yankees

[intentional wok]

6-2 so far in the 12-game Yanks-Sox gauntlet. I was really worried about this stretch. I was pretty unconvinced after the rickety 3/4 from in Minnesota, but I am so happy the team has upped its game.