General 2016 Blue Jays discussion thread

[BigCecil]

I'll give you that on Martin, but Tulo hasn't been good at all with the Jays. And I don't believe in all that mental betrayal ******** he was spewing. He wasn't good with Colorado before the trade either.

 

2014 - 170 wRC+ for Tulo. That's a staggering number for a SS who can play some D. Last year 100. How about 135 wRC+ meet in the middle this year?

 

I don't believe in mental betrayal blah blah either. Its conceivable though that Tulo stays healthy and gets hot and bashes the f*** out of the ball for a few months out of a long season. Lets see what happens.

[burlingtonbandit]

2014 - 170 wRC+ for Tulo. That's a staggering number for a SS who can play some D. Last year 100. How about 135 wRC+ meet in the middle this year?

 

I don't believe in mental betrayal blah blah either. Its conceivable though that Tulo stays healthy and gets hot and bashes the f*** out of the ball for a few months out of a long season. Lets see what happens.

 

Didn't he have hip surgery in 2014? Could explain a loss of bat speed. He moved back to the toe tap so we will see how it goes.

[Art Vandelay]

Kind of want this on a shirt:

 

http://www.blogto.com/upload/2016/04/2016410-bluejaysracoon.jpg

[Stangstag]

Didn't he have hip surgery in 2014? Could explain a loss of bat speed. He moved back to the toe tap so we will see how it goes.

 

He's been using the toe-tap since game 1 this season. Not sure why he abandoned the leg kick, he looked great in spring training

[bones10]

He's been using the toe-tap since game 1 this season. Not sure why he abandoned the leg kick, he looked great in spring training

 

Prob playing hurt alresdy

[BigCecil]

Didn't he have hip surgery in 2014? Could explain a loss of bat speed. He moved back to the toe tap so we will see how it goes.

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11350900/colorado-rockies-ss-troy-tulowitzki-undergo-hip-surgery-miss-remainder-season

 

Torn labrum in Aug of 2014. But he started off quite well in 2015.

 

Even if he can come back to just an above league avg bat (which I think he will) with his D he has a lot of value with the other offensive capabilities of this team.

[Angrioter]

Ben Wagner ‏

#BlueJays Jesse Chavez suggested a new RH slider grip for Pat Venditte. The results? K'd 5 of 6 hitters he's faced. #bisons

[HERPDERP]

f***ing Arnold Leon. get that scrub off this team and bring up the man

[glory]

Chavez is a better pitching coach than Pete Walker.

[Jonn]

Chavez is a better pitching coach than Pete Walker.

 

You don't like his pound down philosophy?

[RealAccountant]

Anyone else starting to feel like this year is torture.

[Brownie19]

I'll give you that on Martin, but Tulo hasn't been good at all with the Jays. And I don't believe in all that mental betrayal ******** he was spewing. He wasn't good with Colorado before the trade either.

 

2014 - 170 wRC+ for Tulo. That's a staggering number for a SS who can play some D. Last year 100. How about 135 wRC+ meet in the middle this year?

 

I don't believe in mental betrayal blah blah either. Its conceivable though that Tulo stays healthy and gets hot and bashes the f*** out of the ball for a few months out of a long season. Lets see what happens.

 

I think you guys underestimate how challenging it is to uproot yourself, your family, sell your house and leave a team and city you've been in/with for 7-8 years. Deal with the fact the franchise that built a team around you no longer wants you and then you have to move to a different country, adjust to a new league and teammates all within ONE week....and are expected to perform as well as you always have.

 

I think some do this better than others - but to simply dismiss this in all situations is a little short-sighted.

[BigCecil]

I think you guys underestimate how challenging it is to uproot yourself, your family, sell your house and leave a team and city you've been in/with for 7-8 years. Deal with the fact the franchise that built a team around you no longer wants you and then you have to move to a different country, adjust to a new league and teammates all within ONE week....and are expected to perform as well as you always have.

 

I think some do this better than others - but to simply dismiss this in all situations is a little short-sighted.

 

Fair enough. I get that. But this is a business and he is a pro. I cut Tulo that slack last year no problem but it's 2016 - you are making 20 million bucks so earn it. Also he has a no trade now to prevent it happening again I believe.

[Rusty_Savage]

Anyone else starting to feel like this year is torture.

 

You mean 7 games? It's 6% of god damned season for f*** sakes

[Frenchsoup]

Anyone else starting to feel like this year is torture.

 

The team is healthy right now, they'll be fine.

[HERPDERP]

I think you guys underestimate how challenging it is to uproot yourself, your family, sell your house and leave a team and city you've been in/with for 7-8 years. Deal with the fact the franchise that built a team around you no longer wants you and then you have to move to a different country, adjust to a new league and teammates all within ONE week....and are expected to perform as well as you always have.

 

I think some do this better than others - but to simply dismiss this in all situations is a little short-sighted.

 

"how challenging it is to uproot yourself, your family, sell your house and leave a team and city you've been in/with for 7-8 years" Those are valid distractions outside of the ballpark. I can't possibly believe that Tulo is thinking of that during an at bat.

 

Also baseball is one of the less team-dependent sports out there. As a hitter, all Tulo needs to do is see the ball, hit the ball. As a fielder, see the ball, catch the ball. It's different between pitchers/catchers, but even that difference is only in terms of sequencing.

 

I will give you that he has to adjust to the league, but the guy is a vet and I'm sure he's had AB against the seasoned veterans in this league and division. So much show that I expect regression, but not the type we saw with Tulo LY and TY.

[KingKat]

What's torture is as long wait between games when the team isn't going well. If they roll over the Yankees, most people will start feeling really good about this team really quick.

[HERPDERP]

What's torture for me is if we are losing games where nothing is working. Pitching, offense, bullpen. There isn't anything to be excited about.

 

If we get swept but have one or a combination of 1.) high scoring game 2.) good pitching then I can feel excited. But when the team is flat, I don't care and don't bother watching.

[Spanky99]

What's torture for me is if we are losing games where nothing is working. Pitching, offense, bullpen. There isn't anything to be excited about.

 

If we get swept but have one or a combination of 1.) high scoring game 2.) good pitching then I can feel excited. But when the team is flat, I don't care and don't bother watching.

 

GTFO!

 

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[Daniel Labude]

What's torture for me is if we are losing games where nothing is working. Pitching, offense, bullpen. There isn't anything to be excited about.

 

If we get swept but have one or a combination of 1.) high scoring game 2.) good pitching then I can feel excited. But when the team is flat, I don't care and don't bother watching.

 

The SP has been really good compared to this time last year

[RealAccountant]

The SP has been really good compared to this time last year

 

Honeslty all the starters have looked very good at times lots to be optimistic about there

[burlingtonbandit]

I think you guys underestimate how challenging it is to uproot yourself, your family, sell your house and leave a team and city you've been in/with for 7-8 years. Deal with the fact the franchise that built a team around you no longer wants you and then you have to move to a different country, adjust to a new league and teammates all within ONE week....and are expected to perform as well as you always have.

 

I think some do this better than others - but to simply dismiss this in all situations is a little short-sighted.

 

He sounded like he's been fine comfort wise this year. Plus his defense has been great so if it really was about that I don't think it would only effect his hitting. Facing new pitchers is probably the biggest thing but there is video out there.

 

The reality is that he is making a lot less contact on pitches the last 2 years.

[WONDERBAT]

Nice little ESPN Sports Science on Pillars catch in Tampa.

 

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=15187612

[G-Snarls]

The SP has been really good compared to this time last year

 

Good point. It was disastrous early last year.

[LGBJ29]

What's torture for me is if we are losing games where nothing is working. Pitching, offense, bullpen. There isn't anything to be excited about.

 

If we get swept but have one or a combination of 1.) high scoring game 2.) good pitching then I can feel excited. But when the team is flat, I don't care and don't bother watching.

 

LOL the starting pitching has been spectacular, and you know the offence is going to hit. Quit crying

[G-Snarls]

Don't make me pull out the "calm down" thread people

 

LOL

 

[Jonn]

Stephen Brooks the guy who was posting all the pictures of the dirt infield progress got fired today.

[HERPDERP]

Stephen Brooks the guy who was posting all the pictures of the dirt infield progress got fired today.

 

wtfff

 

let me guess, they're going to bring their buddy in from Cleveland

[KingKat]

It's a dirty business.

[Jonn]

Article from sportsnet... Wonder what he did lol

 

Blue Jays dismiss VP of business operations Brooks

 

SHI DAVIDI

APRIL 12, 2016, 1:48 PM

TORONTO - Changes in the Toronto Blue Jays' front office continue, as senior vice president of business operations Stephen Brooks has been dismissed, according to multiple industry sources.

 

Brooks worked on business operations for the Blue Jays and Rogers Centre, including corporate partnerships, marketing, community initiatives and the new-look infield the club installed for the 2016 season.

 

A graduate of the University of British Columbia and Harvard Business School, Brooks joined Rogers Communications in 2004 and became the Blue Jays' vice president of finance before the 2009 season. He operated as the number two under former president and CEO Paul Beeston.