ST GDT: Rays @ Jays (March 13, 1:05 ET)

[Boxcar]

There are rigorous statistical methods that can be used to determine when your views should be adjusted. I'll let someone else give details. Any long time baseball fan, should understand the following, even if they have zero background in statistics.

 

10 innings -> meaningless

500 innings -> very meaningful

 

There exists an in between point where the numbers start to become become meaningful... I would guess it is around 70-100 innings.

 

June 1st - Sanchez has 70 innings under his belt as a starter -- at that point I think we can all consider adjusting our views based on evidence. If someone wants to disagree, at that point they would have to pull out the p-values or whatever.

 

There are scenarios where 10 innings could be as meaningful as 500 innings (career BABIP vs. pitch level stats)

 

Not to be a GD about it, just saying that all stats do not normalize at the same rate.

[Governator]

I'm sick of the Sanchez & Goins debates.

[Brownie19]

Here is what i think everyone is saying in regards to criticism to Sanchez..... He has a good fastball which does over match hitters at times, he can be a good starter if he does the following......

 

Reign in his control, that was a major problem last year he walk over 4/9ip which is terrible and people need/should realize this so yes he needs to get his control issues under control.

 

Develop his curve is next and develop a 3rd pitch. IF he does not have another 2 solid pitches in his repertoire he his not going to last long in ball games. Last year he threw the Fastball over 80% of the time which is fine when he is in the pen but as a starter you have to rely on other pitches or your not going to make it out of the 5th or 6th that often because hitters in this league will just zero in on the fastball and leave the off speed stuff which he can't throw for strikes with regularity.

 

Nobody is saying he can't be good. They are saying that he has areas that need to be improved on before he can bee good. Its easy to look at spring stats and say he is good when at this time of the year pitchers are generally ahead of hitters in terms of being ready for the season.

 

I'd argue he should scrap the use of his curveball....Based on how good his sinking fastball is, a 1-7 curveball makes no sense. He should be developing that cutter/slider and a change up to throw off that sinking fastball. Curveballs are best used with high fastball pitchers, which Sanchez is not - see Estrada....high fastballs, 12-6 curve + high change ups. Great combo.

[Krylian]

Damn. The Sanchez' called strikeout are killing us.

 

Gibbons "Aaron got tons of Ks. I want here over Gavin"

 

It's not his fault they won't swing.

[Angrioter]

It's not his fault they won't swing.

 

Called strike out are misleading. I saw Buehrle get 11 K's against the Rays 2 years ago. You need to mis bats to be a strikeout pitcher

[G-Snarls]

I'm sick of the Sanchez & Goins debates.

 

Yes

 

I want reg season games

[dineke]

Yes

 

I want reg season games

 

that's when the real debating begins!