SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 What do you think? Who breaks camp as the 5th starter? Please vote. I'm thinking Sanchez.
Laika Community Moderator Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Anybody but Sanchez would be defensible
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 I think Chavez probably has to bomb to lose the spot.
mtljaysfan Verified Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 And I'd like to see all of Sanchez, Hutchinson and Osuna in AAA to develop
SAAviour Verified Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Floyd should be one inning reliever, Hutch needs to prove he isn't done in AAA. Chavez and Sanchez is the actual battle in my mind.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 I want Chavez to win the spot. Atleast it would justify that trade. But I also think he can be a serviceable and consistent 5th starter. I'm not comfortable with Sanchez and Drew Hutchison has not looked good in a long time. And unless he pitches really well should be starting in AAA. The other guys are just depth. Chavez just makes sense.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 If floydd is healthy he should be starting
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 2015 performance as Starter Jesse Chavez 150.1IP: (7.60 K, 2.81 BB, 1.08 HR)/9, 3.96 FIP Aaron Sanchez 66IP: (5.73 K, 5.05 BB, 1.09 HR)/9, 5.21 FIP Drew Hutchison 148IP: (7.78 K, 2.61 BB, 1.28 HR)/9, 4.34 FIP
ValiantJaysFan Verified Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Yes, one off year when he was thrown into the bullpen after an injury derailed a fairly solid start in the rotation in his age 22 season. Let's give up on Sanchez, he's obviously a bust. That spot should be his to lose.
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Yes, one off year when he was thrown into the bullpen after an injury derailed a fairly solid start in the rotation in his age 22 season. Let's give up on Sanchez, he's obviously a bust. That spot should be his to lose. Does it count as one off year when you've been garbage as a starter your entire pro career?
mtljaysfan Verified Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 I believe/Hope Sanchez will be a decent starter in the future. But he needs to develop another off-speed pitch and have more better command of his fastball first. So a few months in AAA will help him.
Governator Community Moderator Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 I don't believe Sanchez will ever reach a 3.5 or better walk rate as a starter regardless of a few months of AAA (The past 6 years says so). I think he's destined for the pen.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 I don't believe Sanchez will ever reach a 3.5 or better walk rate as a starter regardless of a few months of AAA (The past 6 years says so). I think he's destined for the pen. ....and NO, he's not the next Delin Betances. Delin K guys like flies at minor league levels.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Does it count as one off year when you've been garbage as a starter your entire pro career? Hes just looking at the ERA. Nothing to see here.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 I am hoping for Floyd so i can go back to 2010 lol but right now its Chavez to loose
Governator Community Moderator Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 ....and NO, he's not the next Delin Betances. Delin K guys like flies at minor league levels. ... and I didn't say he was. He's just more useful out of the pen where he limits his walk rate and induces weak contact. He just needs to be better managed and never come in to stop the damage because he isn't getting you the K. Oh yea, he probably shouldn't face left handers either. He really should just face a team full of righties in the 7th inning. That's his role lol.
ValiantJaysFan Verified Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Does it count as one off year when you've been garbage as a starter your entire pro career? There was a time where Syndergaard, Sanchez, and Nicolino were considered the "big three" prospect pitchers in baseball. Our franchise does not have the greatest track record with developing players. But he's 23 years old and most pitchers don't really come into their own until, I forget the exact age, 26 or 27, something like that...I hardly think Sanchez can be written off. He's worked his ass off all off season, his upside is huge, young pitchers tend to try to throw too hard at the expense of control...something could click and he'd be a great pitcher for years to come. You have to give that spot to him to lose, give him 5-10 starts and if it's not working, Chavez and Floyd are waiting in the wings. It's not like we don't have the offence to pick him up.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 There was a time where Syndergaard, Sanchez, and Nicolino were considered the "big three" prospect pitchers in baseball. Our franchise does not have the greatest track record with developing players. But he's 23 years old and most pitchers don't really come into their own until, I forget the exact age, 26 or 27, something like that...I hardly think Sanchez can be written off. He's worked his ass off all off season, his upside is huge, young pitchers tend to try to throw too hard at the expense of control...something could click and he'd be a great pitcher for years to come. You have to give that spot to him to lose, give him 5-10 starts and if it's not working, Chavez and Floyd are waiting in the wings. It's not like we don't have the offence to pick him up. You can't increase your K rate adding 25 pounds to your body. He's the same Sanchez, with a bigger ass.
ValiantJaysFan Verified Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 You can't increase your K rate adding 25 pounds to your body. He's the same Sanchez, with a bigger ass. He's 23. If he improves his control, his numbers will follow.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 He's 23. If he improves his control, his numbers will follow. Aaron Sanchez is just a beautiful name so far. We didn't see good results at minor or major league. He could be a great righty specialist, and that is useful in this new era of baseball.
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Does it count as one off year when you've been garbage as a starter your entire pro career? and he pitched what 60 or 70 innings last year as a starter and his entire pro career includes another 360 innings as a starter in the minors spread over 5 years and ages 17 to 21.
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 and he pitched what 60 or 70 innings last year as a starter and his entire pro career includes another 360 innings as a starter in the minors spread over 5 years and ages 17 to 21. And he sucked in the minors starting, thats the point
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Mods saskjayfan voted twice to sabotage the poll. He should recibe a double ban for voted for a s***** player 2 times.
CHRIS Verified Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Just confirming that the poll is saying "will be" and not necessarily "should be". I think it "will be" Sanchez, with Chavez filling last year's Estrada role.
ValiantJaysFan Verified Member Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 And he sucked in the minors starting, thats the point The guy was rushed through the minor league system and has been forced to make mistakes that otherwise would've been made in AA and AAA, in MLB. Not his fault.
SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted March 4, 2016 Author Posted March 4, 2016 Mods saskjayfan voted twice to sabotage the poll. He should recibe a double ban for voted for a s***** player 2 times. We're different posters. His username inspired my username is all. I am from Saskatoon. I think he's from Regina.
SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted March 4, 2016 Author Posted March 4, 2016 Just confirming that the poll is saying "will be" and not necessarily "should be". I think it "will be" Sanchez, with Chavez filling last year's Estrada role. That's exactly right. Our 5th starter SHOULD be Happ or Estrada with Price or God as our #1, but that didn't happen.
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