David Price Signs 7 year deal with Red Sox

[vilifyingforce]

I'll never understand why anybody listens to sports call in shows.

[TheHurl]

So your saying Swihart > Martin who saves more runs that most of the league, and Bostons IF which had Panda come off a -2WAR season and no first baseman as of right now (Hanely just came off a -1WAR season who has never played first before). Is better then our Donaldson, Tulo, Travis and TBD....

 

Having a hard time taking this seriously

 

If we are going to live and die by the projections here (and I know I am) Depth Charts has the Red Sox infield projected at 12.3 and the Jays at 10.8. Of course they have Panda at 1.8 and Hanley at 1.7.

[Governator]

I'll never understand why anybody listens to sports call in shows.

 

I really don't tbh, I didn't realize they were taking call ins.

[Sammy225]

If we are going to live and die by the projections here (and I know I am) Depth Charts has the Red Sox infield projected at 12.3 and the Jays at 10.8. Of course they have Panda at 1.8 and Hanley at 1.7.

 

It will be interesting. I could see Hanley rebounding before Panda... Can't see him getting better with age lol....

 

And they also have Travis at 0.8

[KingKat]

 

Interesting to hear that the Cards were the runner up in the Price sweepstakes. Wainwright, Price, Martinez, Garcia, Wacha, Gonzalez, Lyons, Reyes would be a kind of insane rotation/position of trading depth, and still wouldn't be a top 5 payroll.

 

Dat org...

[RealAccountant]

If we are going to live and die by the projections here (and I know I am) Depth Charts has the Red Sox infield projected at 12.3 and the Jays at 10.8. Of course they have Panda at 1.8 and Hanley at 1.7.

 

We aren't getting much out of 1B. You have to think we can do better there

[polar bear]

awesome news!

 

cant wait for our righty loaded team to crush him at Fenway

 

My kind of thinking also.

[Frenchsoup]

We aren't getting much out of 1B. You have to think we can do better there

 

I think we're all over Freddie Freeman. Maybe even a Schwarber.

[Brownie19]

I think we're all over Freddie Freeman. Maybe even a Schwarber.

 

based on what? your wet dreams?

[Brownie19]

Holy f*** Jeff Blair show taking call ins is just f***ing noise, especially when Blair advocates how he would have put up that money for him if it was his money.

 

Jeff Blair is the worst.

[leaffie]

Jays scored 140 more runs than the Sox, and won 15 more games, with JB, EE, Tulo, Martin missing time. Yes, the Sox got Price, but they also have Ortiz another year older, Pedroia who is more injury prone each year, and terrible contracts with HR and Panda. Stroman will probably win as many games as Price, all things being equal.

[DerangedIdoit]

Well, that team just got much better with Price and Kimbrel , 6-8 wins better.

 

I've been around the game long enough to know there's no need to worry until proven otherwise. There are still a lot of questions marks at least just for next season i.e. Pablo, HanRam, Swihart, Young, castillo, Bucholtz, Porcello, Miley, EdRo, Owens, Kelly. Also a lesser extent when it comes to JBJ because there's enough of a chance he takes a dip offensive to mention but he provides ample value defensively. And I know by now we learned not to doubt David Ortiz but he is on the wrong side of 40 and can fall off a cliff at a moments notice.

[RealAccountant]

Would it be fair to say that our pitching projects to be the second worst in ALEast

[vilifyingforce]

Why are so many people here completely missing the point? It's literally the only reason I keep talking about it. I understand supply and demand, you twit! Read the post again.

 

Yeah, you totally understand supply and demand and you're not naive at all, but, it's just sometimes you want to post naive posts conflating ethics with business and while there are business ethics that's not what you're really talking about and then you won't let it go because people don't give a s*** about your friend who's privacy you're desperate to protect because we'd all just drop what we're doing to go stalk a scientist working with science! or something. How about that David Price?

[Effit]

How about that David Price?

 

He gone

[BTS]

Would it be fair to say that our pitching projects to be the second worst in ALEast

 

Probably.

[vilifyingforce]

Why are you assuming desperation when I just mentioned privacy once? My post was not naive. It was just bugging me in the moment. Why is this so difficult for some of you to accept? Are you a human being? Do you have emotions? Seriously, why are you being sarcastic toward me? What are you accomplishing by doing this? You, and others, are the only people here who won't let it go. You, and others, keep replying to me, asking me questions, and making statements that I need to defend. YOU are the one who will not let it go.

 

It's a rainy day and I'm a bit bored at the moment waiting for the next time my new dog poops somewhere in the house; then we have a race to see if I can clean it before she eats it.

[xposbrad]

Jays scored 140 more runs than the Sox, and won 15 more games, with JB, EE, Tulo, Martin missing time. Yes, the Sox got Price, but they also have Ortiz another year older, Pedroia who is more injury prone each year, and terrible contracts with HR and Panda. Stroman will probably win as many games as Price, all things being equal.

 

That was last year. In looking at the Red Sox roster and their guys who under performed are still young and have years in the majors where they were much better. XB/JB/Betts and who knows what Castillo's upside is, but it's likely better than last year. All those guys are young, not declining, with a lot of upside. Panda doesn't repeat his 2015 crappy year, I think he will show up at camp fitter and ready to play third. Hanram goes to 1B, and most likely goes back to his career hitting. Plus, that 15 win differential is when we had Price down the stretch. They have a couple of guys with issues, but we have a couple more who should decline also with age. They also have the trade pieces and younger guys to get better right away if they want. I think Boston could end up taking the division depending on what they do next but will definitely be in the hunt for first. I think our only next move is sign a mid tier reliever. We could be the team that slips to third, let's see what the Yanks do first though.

[500LevelSTH]

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That was last year. In looking at the Red Sox roster and their guys who under performed are still young and have years in the majors where they were much better. XB/JB/Betts and who knows what Castillo's upside is, but it's likely better than last year. All those guys are young, not declining, with a lot of upside. Panda doesn't repeat his 2015 crappy year, I think he will show up at camp fitter and ready to play third. Hanram goes to 1B, and most likely goes back to his career hitting. Plus, that 15 win differential is when we had Price down the stretch. They have a couple of guys with issues, but we have a couple more who should decline also with age. They also have the trade pieces and younger guys to get better right away if they want. I think Boston could end up taking the division depending on what they do next but will definitely be in the hunt for first. I think our only next move is sign a mid tier reliever. We could be the team that slips to third, let's see what the Yanks do first though.

 

This.

[TheHurl]

Why are so many people here completely missing the point? It's literally the only reason I keep talking about it. I understand supply and demand, you twit! Read the post again.

 

The world is unfair when it comes to salaries. I worked in the investment industry previously, I get it. You could say the same thing about your friend (who I agree is underpaid and will likely never earn her wealth without selling her soul to satan) in comparison to actors, directors, producers, musicians, tech startup types, gamers...but with that said in 2014 7 of the 10 best paying professions were in the medical field.

[DerangedIdoit]

That was last year. In looking at the Red Sox roster and their guys who under performed are still young and have years in the majors where they were much better. XB/JB/Betts and who knows what Castillo's upside is, but it's likely better than last year. All those guys are young, not declining, with a lot of upside. Panda doesn't repeat his 2015 crappy year, I think he will show up at camp fitter and ready to play third. Hanram goes to 1B, and most likely goes back to his career hitting. Plus, that 15 win differential is when we had Price down the stretch. They have a couple of guys with issues, but we have a couple more who should decline also with age. They also have the trade pieces and younger guys to get better right away if they want. I think Boston could end up taking the division depending on what they do next but will definitely be in the hunt for first. I think our only next move is sign a mid tier reliever. We could be the team that slips to third, let's see what the Yanks do first though.

 

Pablo and Hanram are far from locks to being productive next year. Also the still relatively unproven young guns the Sox have, primarily JBJ/Swihart/Castillo, can easily turn into busts, struggle for seasons before breaking out or have a much lower ceiling than projected. On the other hand they can all become all stars but i doubt they all break out next season and interrupt the Jays window. Plus with the Chris Young signing either JBJ or Castillo is on the outside looking in.

[Krylian]

Probably.

 

Who's worse?

[500LevelSTH]

All of this was stupid, but the Jays having more questions at C than Boston is particularly ridiculous.

 

People are blinded by Martin offense stats and throwing out runners. His dWAR last season was 0.7 and is heading into age 33 season with Thole as the likely backup instead of a solid Navarro. Take off the blinders. Not saying boston is better at C, just saying Jays have ??? at the backup with a starter who is in aging years, especially as a catcher

[BTS]

Who's worse?

 

Baltimore

[BTS]

People are blinded by Martin offense stats and throwing out runners. His dWAR last season was 0.7 and is heading into age 33 season with Thole as the likely backup instead of a solid Navarro. Take off the blinders.

 

So basically people are blinded by the fact that Martin is a 4-5 win catcher and should take off the blinders and realize that... he's bad despite being a 4-5 win catcher?

[500LevelSTH]

So basically people are blinded by the fact that Martin is a 4-5 win catcher and should take off the blinders and realize that... he's bad despite being a 4-5 win catcher?

 

Where did i say he was bad?

[vilifyingforce]

People are blinded by Martin offense stats and throwing out runners. His dWAR last season was 0.7 and is heading into age 33 season with Thole as the likely backup instead of a solid Navarro. Take off the blinders. Not saying boston is better at C, just saying Jays have ??? at the backup with a starter who is in aging years, especially as a catcher

 

And you're ignoring how bad Dickey's knuckleball busted the guy up. There are no questions about Martin until he shows he can't.

[vilifyingforce]

That sounds pretty good. It's kind of overcast where I am in Cali. I'm just having some chill time before I go into work. Good times.

 

Ugh I'm not so sure. Rescue dogs are such a gigantic pain in the ass for the first year until they finally settle. I keep doing it though, sucker for punishment.

[BTS]

Where did i say he was bad?

 

You indicated that the catching situation was more of a question than Boston's. Boston's catcher isn't likely to be league-average. Russell Martin would have to be a bad player to be a bigger question than Blake Swihart.

[leaffie]

That was last year. In looking at the Red Sox roster and their guys who under performed are still young and have years in the majors where they were much better. XB/JB/Betts and who knows what Castillo's upside is, but it's likely better than last year. All those guys are young, not declining, with a lot of upside. Panda doesn't repeat his 2015 crappy year, I think he will show up at camp fitter and ready to play third. Hanram goes to 1B, and most likely goes back to his career hitting. Plus, that 15 win differential is when we had Price down the stretch. They have a couple of guys with issues, but we have a couple more who should decline also with age. They also have the trade pieces and younger guys to get better right away if they want. I think Boston could end up taking the division depending on what they do next but will definitely be in the hunt for first. I think our only next move is sign a mid tier reliever. We could be the team that slips to third, let's see what the Yanks do first though.

 

So their guys that underperformed, are automatically going to get better, but the Jays are going to get worse? Panda supposedly is fatter now than he was at the end of the year. They asked him to go play winter ball to get in shape, and he wouldn't go. Hanram at 1B is going to be better playing a position he has never played in his career? There were already rumblings this winter about attitude problems with Hanram, and the same reason they traded him are still there.

 

The Jays will have Tulo probably going to be better or at least back to his career average. Travis will hit better than Goings. There is certainly a chance that Pillar will continue to improve his hitting. Stroman will win more games than he did last year.

 

Obviously, there are no guarantees with anybody, and the Jays could regress, but I certainly will not be giving the AL east to the Sox.

 

Come on, anything can happen and everyone knows that. But getting Price does not automatically make this team better than the Jays.