FanGraphs contract crowdsourcing is done

[BTS]

This is who I would try to pick up:

 

1) Chen 29 years old 4/52 Need a solid starter and he's pretty inexpensive.

2) Kennedy 30 years old 3/36 (depends if Padres extend qualifying offer).

3) Jaso 31 years old 2/12 Looks amazing if he can back up catcher. Otherwise, not sure we have room for him.

4) Sipp 31 years old 2/10 Great stats. We need another lefty.

5) Mark Lowe

6) Shawn Kelley

 

Tony Sipp would be a good target. A third lefty to complement Cecil and Loup would really help the pen.

[Laika]

Sign like, three or four of these guys and make them fight to the death for rotation spots (losers pitch in relief!):

 

Kyle Kendrick 1/$3M (could actually accept a minor league deal)

Joe Blanton 1/$4

Brandon Morrow 1/$4

Trevor Cahill 1/$5

Chris Young 1/$6

Rich Hill 1/$6

Tim Lincecum 1/$6

Bartolo Colon 1/$10

Cliff Lee 1/$15 (incentive based - not on Fangraphs list)

 

Try to sign both of these guys if you can (it's okay if they won't):

 

Ryan Madson 1/$5

Tony Sipp 2/$10

 

Sign one of these f***ers just because:

 

Justin Morneau 1/$7

John Jaso 2/$12

 

Trade Revere for a SP if possible

 

/offseason

[glory]

Iwakuma at that price would be amazing. Even a bit more money than that would be fine since it might take some incentive to get him out of Seattle. Keep the contracts short, especially for starters.

[Terminator]

I'm sure the article mentions this, but he gets an elite amount of infield flies, so there are tangible reasons that you can see on the stat sheet. It's not a complete leap of faith.

 

Yeah that makes some sense. Well for 1 year and 6 million wouldn't he be a no brainer?

[Abomination]

I really like the idea of Cliff Lee on a heavy incentive based contract.

[BTS]

Yeah that makes some sense. Well for 1 year and 6 million wouldn't he be a no brainer?

 

I'd do it.

[burlingtonbandit]

Sign like, three or four of these guys and make them fight to the death for rotation spots (losers pitch in relief!):

 

Kyle Kendrick 1/$3M (could actually accept a minor league deal)

Joe Blanton 1/$4

Brandon Morrow 1/$4

Trevor Cahill 1/$5

Chris Young 1/$6

Rich Hill 1/$6

Tim Lincecum 1/$6

Bartolo Colon 1/$10

Cliff Lee 1/$15 (incentive based - not on Fangraphs list)

 

Try to sign both of these guys if you can (it's okay if they won't):

 

Ryan Madson 1/$5

Tony Sipp 2/$10

 

Sign one of these f***ers just because:

 

Justin Morneau 1/$7

John Jaso 2/$12

 

Trade Revere for a SP if possible

 

/offseason

 

I'm in favour of that strategy. I think if you do that you can trade Sanchez and/or Osuna to get a SP/young position player.

[GD]

Zobrist (3/42)

Kuma (3/42)

Kennedy (3/36)

Lackey (2/30)

Jaso (2/12)

Lowe (2/8)

Madson(1/5)

Blanton(1/4)

Hill(1/6)

Lee(whatever)

Samardzija(4/64)

Span(3/36)

Latos(2/22)

O'Day(3/21)

Pearce(2/12)

Colon(1/10)

Young(1/6)

Cahill(1/5)

 

[TheHurl]

Sign like, three or four of these guys and make them fight to the death for rotation spots (losers pitch in relief!):

 

Kyle Kendrick 1/$3M (could actually accept a minor league deal)

Joe Blanton 1/$4

Brandon Morrow 1/$4

Trevor Cahill 1/$5

Chris Young 1/$6

Rich Hill 1/$6

Tim Lincecum 1/$6

Bartolo Colon 1/$10

Cliff Lee 1/$15 (incentive based - not on Fangraphs list)

 

Try to sign both of these guys if you can (it's okay if they won't):

 

Ryan Madson 1/$5

Tony Sipp 2/$10

 

Sign one of these f***ers just because:

 

Justin Morneau 1/$7

John Jaso 2/$12

 

Trade Revere for a SP if possible

 

/offseason

 

Add in sign Heyward (leaving an OF as a later trade chip or in case of injury) and I could buy in to the NJH GM role

[FrozenRopes]

Any player under 30 whose War is about 2.5. Keep chasing until they are gone.

[RealAccountant]

Lol Brandon Tomorrow

 

Still waiting on him. Bring him back as a reliever

[GD]

Add in sign Heyward (leaving an OF as a later trade chip or in case of injury) and I could buy in to the NJH GM role

 

I think NJH was just looking at bargains, but Heyward on less than 200m is a complete steal. Especially with a 4 year ETO/mutual. Really hoping for it. Seems like a Shapiro player.

[burlingtonbandit]

I think NJH was just looking at bargains, but Heyward on less than 200m is a complete steal. Especially with a 4 year ETO/mutual. Really hoping for it. Seems like a Shapiro player.

 

I can't see the Jays outbidding clubs like the Dodgers and Cubs as much as we all want to sign Heyward.

[Hipfan]

I can't see the Jays outbidding clubs like the Dodgers and Cubs as much as we all want to sign Heyward.

 

Probably true, and he'd have to want to come to Canada, but maybe giving him a huge backloaded deal, (ie the 10 yr, 250M) with an ETO after 3/4 years would get him.

[THANOS]

Probably true, and he'd have to want to come to Canada, but maybe giving him a huge backloaded deal, (ie the 10 yr, 250M) with an ETO after 3/4 years would get him.

 

Not bad, given his age right now, but still don't think I'd do it.

[burlingtonbandit]

Probably true, and he'd have to want to come to Canada, but maybe giving him a huge backloaded deal, (ie the 10 yr, 250M) with an ETO after 3/4 years would get him.

 

Have to think no matter how you structure the deal the Dodgers or Cubs could do the same as they have really smart FOs as well. As an OF, Heyward probably would have to be blown away with an offer to play on turf as well.

[SaskJaysFan_2]

I've thought about Heywood for a while. I don't want to become the Phillies and I think we should entertain offers for JB. With Heywood for 7-8 years we're good out there.

[Brownie19]

Why do people keep talking about trading EE or bats?

[dineke]

Why do people keep talking about trading EE or bats?

 

Because they're only under contract for 1 more year.

[TheHurl]

I think NJH was just looking at bargains, but Heyward on less than 200m is a complete steal. Especially with a 4 year ETO/mutual. Really hoping for it. Seems like a Shapiro player.

 

Yep that is what I was thinking. Go somewhat less in year one. which makes his 4 year opt out a tough decision.

Pros

1. Heyward makes the offense better, gives you an opportunity to trade Revere for a pitching upgrade

2. Heyward gives you a guy that makes it easier to not sign one of EE or JB should that become an issue

3. Heyward allows you to trade JB or EE if something goes bust in what is supposed to be a boom season

4. Pompey becomes expendable in the case that there is a boom season and you need an upgrade at the deadline.

[SaskJaysFan_2]

Why do people keep talking about trading EE or bats?

 

Because we don't necessarily need both of them, general fear of becoming the Phillies in that they are getting old and in decline, our GM...er President...likes to build a strong farm, we need pitching, there are some great younger guys out there like Heywood, we have a set payroll restriction because we're not the Dodgers, and we only have one more year of control for both.

[GD]

Yep that is what I was thinking. Go somewhat less in year one. which makes his 4 year opt out a tough decision.

Pros

1. Heyward makes the offense better, gives you an opportunity to trade Revere for a pitching upgrade

2. Heyward gives you a guy that makes it easier to not sign one of EE or JB should that become an issue

3. Heyward allows you to trade JB or EE if something goes bust in what is supposed to be a boom season

4. Pompey becomes expendable in the case that there is a boom season and you need an upgrade at the deadline.

 

I would only backload for team-related reasons (too much $$ in upcoming years but backloading is obviously sketchy as we'll see in a few years). I'd be totally content with Heyward opting out because his defense won't always be there. He will eventually turn into a 120 wRC+ average defense COF and you shouldn't be too motivated to stick around for that. 4 great years of Heyward would be nice.

[burlingtonbandit]

I've thought about Heywood for a while. I don't want to become the Phillies and I think we should entertain offers for JB. With Heywood for 7-8 years we're good out there.

 

I don't get the comparisons with the Phillies. The Phillies had a ton of money tied up in pitching, which the Jays don't. The Jays position players are way more talented and younger than the Phillies.

 

Donaldson, Bautista, Martin, Tulo are much much better than Utely, Ruiz, Rollins, Howard were when the Phillies were in the playoffs. Pillar, Travis and Pompey are young position players the Phillies never had.

 

If you want to compare the Jays becoming an aging expensive team the Yankees are a much better example IMO and even then I'd take the Jays group.

[SaskJaysFan_2]

I don't get the comparisons with the Phillies. The Phillies had a ton of money tied up in pitching, which the Jays don't. The Jays position players are way more talented and younger than the Phillies.

 

Donaldson, Bautista, Martin, Tulo are much much better than Utely, Ruiz, Rollins, Howard were when the Phillies were in the playoffs. Pillar, Travis and Pompey are young position players the Phillies never had.

 

If you want to compare the Jays becoming an aging expensive team the Yankees are a much better example IMO and even then I'd take the Jays group.

 

You don't? You're being obtuse. The Phillies inked players to long-term expensive contracts; players who declined at the same time. We are not that young, in fact the only starters at the moment under 30, position-wise, are Pillar, Revere and JD and Travis.

 

Our current players are better than the Phillies you indicate, but they f***ing need to me. We're in the AL East. Different division.

[Brownie19]

Because they're only under contract for 1 more year.

 

Because we don't necessarily need both of them, general fear of becoming the Phillies in that they are getting old and in decline, our GM...er President...likes to build a strong farm, we need pitching, there are some great younger guys out there like Heywood, we have a set payroll restriction because we're not the Dodgers, and we only have one more year of control for both.

 

The point is they both have no trade clauses....they aren't going anywhere.

[SaskJaysFan_2]

The point is they both have no trade clauses....they aren't going anywhere.

 

I didn't realize they were 10-5 players

 

http://andrewstoeten.com/2015/06/11/allowing-bautista-encarnacion-to-acquire-10-5-rights-shows-jays-have-no-desire-to-trade-them/

[glory]

Heyward in RF with Bautista at 1B would be excellent, but I doubt the Jays would go to 10 years on any player. Would be a great move, though. Go short-term with pitchers and sign a cornerstone talent long-term.

[TheHurl]

I didn't realize they were 10-5 players

 

http://andrewstoeten.com/2015/06/11/allowing-bautista-encarnacion-to-acquire-10-5-rights-shows-jays-have-no-desire-to-trade-them/

 

You've likely taken in too much Potash, so I'll just leave you a warning...linking Stoeten is worse than killing a mod

 

Note: I don't know what Potash actually is and if you can take it in, but still my point stands

[Angrioter]

Bastardo at 2/8 isn't a bad deal either, but would obviously prefer Lowe.

.. but Antonio is me cousin

[Abomination]

.. but Antonio is me cousin

 

In that case, 2/4 and a barren of mules.