THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 I think they'll still be able to get some good prospects. Votto is a top 5 hitter in all of baseball and even with the contract some team will give up a premium just to get the bat. What do you think Votto would cost us if we ate all of the contract?
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 What do you think Votto would cost us if we ate all of the contract? Honestly have no idea but if I had to guess maybe Alford, Sanchez and a lower level prospect with upside? Not really sure what Cincy is looking for and if they were willing to include cash. Even though I'd love Votto on the team I think the cost will be too much.
puphood Verified Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 http://jaysjournal.com/2015/11/13/aroldis-chapman-future-blue-jays-closer/ Getting Chapman would give the jays the option to move one of the young arms into a SP role and then look for a one more SP (Wei-Yin Chen). Would leave the jays with a strong bullpen Chapman/Osuna/Cecil/Sanchez/Hendriks........use as bait Travis/Goins/Pompey/.........
SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 So now, if we signed Leake and Shark and traded for Chapman (there are whole articles written about this possibility), I think we can still stay right around $140M with back loaded contracted. Leake and Shark aren't aces, but they can be solid 2-3's. And with Stroman, Dickey and Estrada, we'd be set for a while. I think we really need Shark. He has fewer innings on his arm than many pitchers his age. He's coming off a poor season, which means lower AAV over the term of his contract, plus he doesn't have any health issues. We lose a pick, but worth the risk.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Still not sure why we didn't qualify Buehrle, now someone can get him for nothing so to speak! I am going to retire, removed the pick and now he is home free! I think he pitches next year!
metafour Verified Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Still not sure why we didn't qualify Buehrle, now someone can get him for nothing so to speak! I am going to retire, removed the pick and now he is home free! I think he pitches next year! Probably because paying Buehrle ~$16 million next season would be a horrendous waste of money.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Not when you need pitching and if he rebounds, veterin ! Yes cause he is not worth 4 mill more then dickey even less if you factor in his pet monkey and his roster spot! And only 3 mill more then what we just signed!!! Yup I see your logic there! Lol Plus if he rejected it you get a pick! Not sure anyone picks him up with a pick attached, so either you sign him cheap or what he has to sit out till what the middle of the season! Edited November 14, 2015 by BigBounceyBlueBalls
metafour Verified Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Great logic! Excellent use of exclamation marks! A team would surely give up a pick to sign Mark Buehrle!
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Better then Ezra, and your non point, f*** nuts!!!
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Assuming Osuna doesn't start bullpen right now is Osuna Sanchez Cecil Hendrik's Schultz What we need here is one Lefty specialist and one late inning reliever preferably Lowe
guylaroche5 Verified Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Still not sure why we didn't qualify Buehrle, now someone can get him for nothing so to speak! I am going to retire, removed the pick and now he is home free! I think he pitches next year! Dickey got stronger as the year progressed, Buehrle fell off a cliff and seemed to have injury issues all the way until the end of the season. If he accepted the QO we'd be kinda f***ed. Buehrle also wants to play somewhere closer to home, I doubt he'd want to go through the grind again if it's in Toronto...
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 So then he would have rejected and we get a pick when he signed elsewhere! Hmmmmmmm
closetjaysfan Verified Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 So then he would have rejected and we get a pick when he signed elsewhere! Hmmmmmmm Why would he reject it? He almost retired this year so he would be looking for a 1 year contract. No one is going to pay him more than 15.8 million and give up a pick... he knows that.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Exactly why the faked retirement thing as he never said it, where? True but they may pay him 2 at 13.... Lol But not with a pick attached! Also please read the above regarding money on him or for him, Thank you!
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 So the Padres rebuilding and looking to shed payroll or what are they doing?
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 So the Padres rebuilding and looking to shed payroll or what are they doing? I think they just figure they suck so why spend 20 million on two relievers for this season. Traded them for what they could and probably now have some money to make some other moves.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 So does that mean moving more big ticket players or older players as well?
intentional wok Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Better then Ezra, and your non point, f*** nuts!!! Reading your posts makes me feel like I'm losing my mind.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Assuming Osuna doesn't start bullpen right now is Osuna Sanchez Cecil Hendrik's Schultz What we need here is one Lefty specialist and one late inning reliever preferably Lowe I'm comfortable going forward with Loup as the second lefty and you should be too. His peripherals were off the charts good. There's a reason relievers are so volatile and it's because luck plays such a huge role.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Reading your posts makes me feel like I'm losing my mind. What mind? Lol Stop pretending you had one to lose, we know... We knew!!! Lol
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 I'm comfortable going forward with Loup as the second lefty and you should be too. His peripherals were off the charts good. There's a reason relievers are so volatile and it's because luck plays such a huge role. I don't trust Loup late in games but yes he is fine assuming there is still an added late inning reliever
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 John Lamb should be a guy the Jays should be targeting. As a starter or reliever
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 John Lamb should be a guy the Jays should be targeting. As a starter or reliever Cliff Lee, Rich Hill, Brandon Morrow, etc, etc,...
Laika Community Moderator Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 John Lamb should be a guy the Jays should be targeting. As a starter or reliever That's a weird target. Why would he be available and why would you want him?
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 That's a weird target. Why would he be available and why would you want him? Dinner?
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 That's a weird target. Why would he be available and why would you want him? Good strikeout and decent walk rates. Had good peripherals but era was trash because of babip and a terrible hr/fb rate. Failed former top prospect for Royals in a old school leaning organization (reds). I think he's an good buy low guy. Dwight Smith jr + another c prospect for him then call it a day.
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 He's essentially a left handed Brandon Morrow. No high 90's fastball but low 90's for a lefty starter is plenty good.
GoJays Verified Member Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 Cliff Lee, Rich Hill, Brandon Morrow, etc, etc,... I would not mind Rich Hill on a one year say 5 mil deal. However from what I read a lot of teams are interested in him.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 The thing is Any pitcher looking to rebuild their values is not going to want to pitch in the AL East
flafson Verified Member Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 The thing is Any pitcher looking to rebuild their values is not going to want to pitch in the AL East Worked for Estrada though, not that he had a choice.
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