Vic Carapazza

[Grant77]

We've seen bad calls in sports from Jim Joyce to Don Denkinger, but that's the human element of baseball, mistakes happen.

 

What's happening with Vic Carapazza is taking things to a whole new level. This man missed the most strikeout calls in the major leagues this year with 86 and has a history of being hugely biased in important games. Check out the following article from the playoffs last year:

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-washington-nationals-vs-vic-carapazza/

 

In this game, he's been even worse, approaching a +20 missed call differential in favour of the Rangers according to gameday. That's not perfect, but you get the idea.

 

The fact that MLB continues to run out extremely ineffective umpires that have a history of f***ing up in the playoffs is disgraceful. Everyone in the league office should be ashamed of themselves. One missed call happens. Double digit missed calls in the favour of one team is systematic. It's not 'Canadian bias' as he did the same last year, it's just bad decisions by MLB that ruin playoff baseball for everyone. There are a lot of good umpires in the majors and Vic Carapazza isn't one of them. In fact, he's without question one of the worst and was before this game even started. If this were any other business, he'd be out of a job in a second.

 

MLB has the umpire quality and pitch f/x information in front of them. Why can't they get this right?

[HERPDERP]

he started off pretty terribly but those calls in the 10th inning were OK.

 

He has actually been consistent, but only against certain teams. So the calls he makes for the Jays he doesn't make for the Rangers.

 

I smell conspiracy. Manfred is there to see it through.

[Grant77]

he started off pretty terribly but those calls in the 10th inning were OK.

 

He has actually been consistent, but only against certain teams. So the calls he makes for the Jays he doesn't make for the Rangers.

 

I smell conspiracy. Manfred is there to see it through.

 

It's not a conspiracy, it's bad decision making and nepotism. It's also unacceptable.

[Grant77]

From wikipedia:

 

"Is the worst umpire ever. he clearly favors the Texas Rangers, and has been paid off by local goomba's to screw the Jays"

 

lol

[Abomination]

From wikipedia:

 

"Is the worst umpire ever. he clearly favors the Texas Rangers, and has been paid off by local goomba's to screw the Jays"

 

lol

 

lmao. Gotta love giving everyone the ability to edit stuff.

[RealAccountant]

What difference does it make anyways. There are no consequences or repercussions

[Grant77]

What difference does it make anyways. There are no consequences or repercussions

 

There are for the teams, fans, and the reputation of baseball.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

It's not a conspiracy, it's bad decision making and nepotism. It's also unacceptable.

 

This is a billion-dollar business. They're not sending out "bad" umps "by mistake." They're sending out well-trained umps to bring about the desired result. End of story.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

There are for the teams, fans, and the reputation of baseball.

 

LOL, no there isn't. At most, the MLB will offer an empty apology. Nobody else will care, and we'll be viewed as "whiners" for making an issue of it. The MLB's rep won't change at all.

[Travis_Snider]

such ********.

[labadee]

I dont really accept these conspiracy theories with the umps. he was inconsistent, but i dont think he's after the jays...now that out call in the 14th by the reviewers on the other hand, that was a load of s***.

[gbill2004]

The fix is in. MLB is a disgrace.

[John_Havok]

Wasn't really as bad as GameDay made it out to be, but brooks baseball showed the calls favoured the Rangers, especially the inside to RHB.

 

It wasn't the reason on they lost, but it was certainly a factor.

 

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/zoneTrack.php?&game=gid_2015_10_09_texmlb_tormlb_1/&innings=yyyyyyyyy&month=10&day=09&year=2015

[Grant77]

I dont really accept these conspiracy theories with the umps. he was inconsistent, but i dont think he's after the jays...now that out call in the 14th by the reviewers on the other hand, that was a load of s***.

 

It's not a conspiracy, it's a legit question. Why is the JP Arencibia of umpires working in the playoffs?

[Grant77]

Wasn't really as bad as GameDay made it out to be, but brooks baseball showed the calls favoured the Rangers, especially the inside to RHB.

 

It wasn't the reason on they lost, but it was certainly a factor.

 

In a game this close, you can't say that with any certainty at all. In fact, I'd be surprised if double digit favourable calls don't add up to a run. We make such a big deal out of pitch framing for the same reason...

[Krylian]

f*** this guy

[art_vandelay275]

We've seen bad calls in sports from Jim Joyce to Don Denkinger, but that's the human element of baseball, mistakes happen.

 

What's happening with Vic Carapazza is taking things to a whole new level. This man missed the most strikeout calls in the major leagues this year with 86 and has a history of being hugely biased in important games. Check out the following article from the playoffs last year:

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-washington-nationals-vs-vic-carapazza/

 

In this game, he's been even worse, approaching a +20 missed call differential in favour of the Rangers according to gameday. That's not perfect, but you get the idea.

 

The fact that MLB continues to run out extremely ineffective umpires that have a history of f***ing up in the playoffs is disgraceful. Everyone in the league office should be ashamed of themselves. One missed call happens. Double digit missed calls in the favour of one team is systematic. It's not 'Canadian bias' as he did the same last year, it's just bad decisions by MLB that ruin playoff baseball for everyone. There are a lot of good umpires in the majors and Vic Carapazza isn't one of them. In fact, he's without question one of the worst and was before this game even started. If this were any other business, he'd be out of a job in a second.

 

MLB has the umpire quality and pitch f/x information in front of them. Why can't they get this right?

 

Someone in another post said that he was ranked pretty high, like #8 IIRC. I'm wondering how they do these rankings. I read that Joe Torre said that they don't even look at the pitch f/x data...

[gbill2004]

I hope someone shits in his meal tonight, and he eats it.

[o2cui2i]

it's amazing that the MLB front office rewards incompetence in the regular season with post season games.

 

umps usually call where the ball hits the glove or where it goes across the plate. Where it goes across the plate is "supposed" to be the correct call but this ass wipe kept changing from one to another and that is why both teams hated on him. early Stroman was throwing nasty s*** that was a strike over the plate but not where it hit the glove and later he was calling pitches that went around the plate strikes, in the end he was calling strikes that where never close to the plate strikes.

 

 

the post season is supposed to be the big showcase for the sport. Amazing that the commissioner is willing to let this kind of s*** be their flagship.

[Krylian]

I hope someone shits in his meal tonight, and he eats it.

 

Already taken care of.

[Swervin81]

A lot of Hanlon's Razor going on with this conspiracy mongering by some. It was pretty awful both ways, honestly. Although there were a few more bad ones our way IMO.

[John_Havok]

In a game this close, you can't say that with any certainty at all. In fact, I'd be surprised if double digit favourable calls don't add up to a run. We make such a big deal out of pitch framing for the same reason...

 

When I said it's not the resosn, I mean it's not the sole single reason they lost. It contributed as one of many.

[John_Havok]

A lot of Hanlon's Razor going on with this conspiracy mongering by some. It was pretty awful both ways, honestly. Although there were a few more bad ones our way IMO.

 

Playoffs bring out the worst in fans.

[TheHurl]

In a game this close, you can't say that with any certainty at all. In fact, I'd be surprised if double digit favourable calls don't add up to a run. We make such a big deal out of pitch framing for the same reason...

 

double digit calls or double digit difference?

[glory]

He was a s*** umpire for 14 innings and the Jays took every borderline pitch regardless. I mean, what the f*** are we going to do? No adjustments or anything. Just keep taking and hope he calls it a ball. It's not like he was calling balls five inches off the plate. They were either legit balls or borderline.

 

I can't stand teams and players who whine and complain about umps. It's only going to hurt them the rest of the game because umps are biased pricks. You have to work around that.

[John_Havok]

He was a s*** umpire for 14 innings and the Jays took every borderline pitch regardless. I mean, what the f*** are we going to do? No adjustments or anything. Just keep taking and hope he calls it a ball. It's not like he was calling balls five inches off the plate. They were either legit balls or borderline.

 

I can't stand teams and players who whine and complain about umps. It's only going to hurt them the rest of the game because umps are biased pricks. You have to work around that.

 

I see what you're saying, but you can't adjust to swinging at pitches that are off the plate. That's just asking for weak contact. Gibbons should have got himself thrown out after the first few innings and lost his mind at the ump to try and get that edge back.

[Park]

OK blame the umps, not the players that actually failed. As I recall Vic made one strike-3 call that ended up actually not being a strike, and guess what... one went against the Rangers too. There was a whole lot of bitching and whining about borderline pitches... embarrassing.

[glory]

I see what you're saying, but you can't adjust to swinging at pitches that are off the plate. That's just asking for weak contact. Gibbons should have got himself thrown out after the first few innings and lost his mind at the ump to try and get that edge back.

 

SUre they shouldn't swing at bad pitches on purpose, but he wasn't calling bad pitches strikes. He was calling borderline pitches strikes. When it is 2 strikes, you have to expand the zone as a hitter anyway.

 

All the Jays did all game was take a borderline pitch, and then show the ump up after he called it a strike. I mean, what do you think the ump will do? Admit he made a mistake? Of course not. He's going to keep calling it, and if he's a prick, he might hold a grudge for the player showing him up. The Jays are guilty of this all the time, especially Bautista.

 

Until baseball changes the rules, you can't win by showing the umpire up. They run the game just as much as the players some times. it sucks, but until they get robo umps to call balls and strikes, that's what we have to deal with as fans.

 

The Jays had 14 innings to score more runs. 14! They didn't lose because of the umpires.

[gbill2004]

Already taken care of.

Thank you.

[Grant77]

double digit calls or double digit difference?

 

Double digit difference from gameday. Not perfect, but it's all I have to look at.