GDT (2/5 if necessary): Rangers @ Blue Jays [Hamels vs Stroman] Oct 9 - 12:45 pm

[spittin]

I think the amount of debate here validates the call and the more glaring things to me are the 2 missed long balls and lack of pinch hitting along with not trusting Hendricks (which was a theme all season long.)

[billydak1d]

yeah and most of that shoe bottom is touching the side of the bag....if your eyes were any good you would have seen a long time ago that this team is not really that good

[billydak1d]

hehehehe....what's the matter baby

[spittin]

Why are the people with 1's for I's in their name always trolls.

[billydak1d]

OK, if you say so

[King]

Why are the people with 1's for I's in their name always trolls.

 

troll ^

[billydak1d]

karma's gonna get ya....

[spittin]

OK, if you say so

 

Billy you seem really smart, no wonder you're going to be an FBI agent.

[Laika]

troll ^

 

Careful King. You don't want to get banned in the playoffs.

 

Leave this one for o2cui2i to not notice or not care about.

[labadee]

I just got selected to join the FBI so my eyes have to be in the top 5% of best possible vision in the world....I don't know what eye doctor you're seeing (or not seeing, no pun intended), but he's clearly safe....let's be honest here dud

 

I don't like to play my Dr card, that often and only chime in when asked, but as one of the actual doctors on this board, let me tell you something. EVEN IF your eyes are better like you say they are it wouldn't matter in this case because we are seeing all in the same resolution. when we say 20/20 vision it means that I can see at 20 feet what a normal person can see at 20 feet. If your vision is 40/20 that means you what you see at 40 feet is what normal people can see at 20 feet. We are arguing over a picture that is 30cm from our faces, unless you can see individual pixels (which i can tell you right f***ing now you cannot) then everyone here has a right to their own view. BTW that FBI crap and making eyes in the top 5% is all ********.

 

don't try and discuss ophthalmology with me. you're going to lose.

[spittin]

I don't like to play my Dr card, that often and only chime in when asked, but as one of the actual doctors on this board, let me tell you something. EVEN IF your eyes are better like you say they are it wouldn't matter in this case because we are seeing all in the same resolution. when we say 20/20 vision it means that I can see at 20 feet what a normal person can see at 20 feet. If your vision is 40/20 that means you what you see at 40 feet is what normal people can see at 20 feet. We are arguing over a picture that is 30cm from our faces, unless you can see individual pixels (which i can tell you right f***ing now you cannot) then everyone here has a right to their own view. BTW that FBI crap and making eyes in the top 5% is all ********.

 

Pretty obvious doc.

[billydak1d]

72% of y'all voted that he was out....hehehehe come on.....well, I guess if you had've blown out all the candles on your birthday cake it might have come true....time to quit smokin' boys

[CJ-Freeway]

128 r

 

Nice, I was in 130A and some guys sitting next to me nearly fought at the end of the game. People were pissed lol

[spittin]

72% of y'all voted that he was out....hehehehe come on.....well, I guess if you had've blown out all the candles on your birthday cake it might have come true....time to quit smokin' boys

 

Smokin what?

[Effit]

i have cursed this team. I become a blue jays fan on october 1st and all they do is lose. Time to go back to hockey.

 

gtfo.

[Harvey_Specter]

Tsn posted that:

 

Teams down 0-2 at home in div series are 2-17.

 

2012 SF and 2001 Yankees both came back and won. A third team pushed it to game 5.

 

At least win the next game. Fans deserve a playoff win

 

Glad to see there is still some optimism out there.

 

At this point I, like many, have resigned to the fact we are most likely done.

 

At least we still get to enjoy at least one more game of postseason ball. It's been 22 years and I'm going to enjoy it. No more expectations, just live in the moment.

[TheHurl]

I just got selected to join the FBI so my eyes have to be in the top 5% of best possible vision in the world....I don't know what eye doctor you're seeing (or not seeing, no pun intended), but he's clearly safe....let's be honest here dud

 

We don't like G-Men around these parts...but top 5% of vision you probably saw this banning coming

[labadee]

Pretty obvious doc.

 

I know. Most members won't buy that crap, but I just hate it when people flash random "credentials" with nothing to back it up

 

edit: he's been banned. Rejoice.

[TheHurl]

I just hate it when people flash random "credentials" with nothing to back it up

 

Random?

http://img0059.psstatic.com/89310534_federal-agent-officer-police-cop-atf-dea-fbi-t-shirt-m-.jpg

[labadee]

Random?

http://img0059.psstatic.com/89310534_federal-agent-officer-police-cop-atf-dea-fbi-t-shirt-m-.jpg

 

thank you for your service to this wonderful country lol

looks 100% legit

[RIPEXPOS]

Maybe he was out by a quarter of an inch, but really, this is what the excuse is gonna be?????

[ComeTogether]

Bad first inning d/pitching have done the jays in so many times this season.

 

Can't keep starting the game behind.

 

Considering the errors vets like Martin made today, that was the difference all you need to lose a game.

 

Keys to next win is good starts to the game, and no errors.

[nextyear]

As much as I wanted him to be out, it appeared to me that Tulowitzki probably pushed him slightly with his glove. So if he was off by 1/2" for 1/20th of a second then that was likely the result of the force of Tulowitzki's tag.

 

Tulowitzki didn't seem very upset by the result.

[Spanky99]

Here is the video: http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/63817564/v520880083/textor-gm2-odor-slides-back-into-second-safely/?query=Odor

 

Skip to 2:56 for the relevant angle.

2:58 is the image posted above where it looks like his foot is off.

Play it from there, 2:58-3:02, and you will see his spike become disengaged from the edge of the bag, causing his foot to slide down. But his spike seems to just slide down the side of the bag without actually falling away from the base entirely, and the sole of his cleat then comes in contact with the base.

 

At 2:58 his spike is the only part of his cleat touching the base, which explains the visual gap between hit show and the base, because the spike adds depth. But he's still in contact with it.

 

The motion of his foot during this slow-motion replay makes it fairly clear that he never lost contact. The way his foot plops down after 2:58 makes it obvious at 2:58 that his spike is actually on the bag, propping up the foot.

 

To say anything else is disingenuous. If a picture says 1000 words, then what's a video worth?

 

Spoken like a true lawyer...

[Stangstag]

We don't like G-Men around these parts...but top 5% of vision you probably saw this banning coming

 

Rekt

[Governator]

One guy wanted to get the wave going and was shut down pretty hard by several people. I've never had people (other than friends and family) on my side about the wave before, so that was a pretty great moment.

 

Were you in 510? "PAY ATTENTION TO THE GAME. f*** THE WAVE!!"

[The duff man]

As much as I wanted him to be out, it appeared to me that Tulowitzki probably pushed him slightly with his glove. So if he was off by 1/2" for 1/20th of a second then that was likely the result of the force of Tulowitzki's tag.

 

Tulowitzki didn't seem very upset by the result.

 

This is legal and would result in an out call if it happened.

[nextyear]

This is legal and would result in an out call if it happened.

 

Reference please (link) - that a player can push someone off the base with a tag?

[Krylian]

I've slept on it...and left it behind. I'm a Leafs fan too...and I don't want this to be our Kerry Fraser.

 

Here's the bottom line.

 

Our Jays are in a slump. It happens to every team throughout any season...and it just so happens that the timing of this one is horrible. When you're on a roll, everything is going your way and you're winning games you shouldn't. And when it's not...you catch no breaks at all.

 

We're seen what this team can do. Historically good offense. A ridiculous run since July 31st. We've seen great starting pitching...we've seen tremendous bullpen performances.

 

The pieces are all here. The only question is, can they find themselves tomorrow and start righting the ship.

 

The Jays blew a 3-1 series lead in '85.

The blew a 3.5 game lead with 7 games left in '87.

In 1989, after the 12-24 start, they had the best record in the AL the rest of the season (yes...that includes Oakland)...and Oakland still beat them 4-1 in the ALCS.

In 1991, they were clearly better than the Twins on paper and yet they still lost in the ALCS.

 

Winning a short series is hard.

 

1992, it was looking rough against Oakland, until Robbie's homer off Eck.

In the same year, the Jays almost went to 0-2 to the Braves, if it wasn't for Sprague's homer off Jeff Reardon in the 9th.

 

Let's see how this team handles adversity.

 

Regardless of how it turns out, I'm proud of the team. They overcame a huge deficit against the Yankees and poured it on. I think this is something we can build on over the next few seasons and I'm excited when I look at it that way.

[nextyear]

Here is the video: http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/63817564/v520880083/textor-gm2-odor-slides-back-into-second-safely/?query=Odor

 

Skip to 2:56 for the relevant angle.

2:58 is the image posted above where it looks like his foot is off.

Play it from there, 2:58-3:02, and you will see his spike become disengaged from the edge of the bag, causing his foot to slide down. But his spike seems to just slide down the side of the bag without actually falling away from the base entirely, and the sole of his cleat then comes in contact with the base.

 

At 2:58 his spike is the only part of his cleat touching the base, which explains the visual gap between hit show and the base, because the spike adds depth. But he's still in contact with it.

 

The motion of his foot during this slow-motion replay makes it fairly clear that he never lost contact. The way his foot plops down after 2:58 makes it obvious at 2:58 that his spike is actually on the bag, propping up the foot.

 

To say anything else is disingenuous. If a picture says 1000 words, then what's a video worth?

 

 

I think what is really unfortunate on that play was the poor throw from Bautista. A slightly better throw would of had him easily.