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Barger is definitely a Second Baseman. It would be great if he could play 3B and corner OF in a pinch though. If he hits the way he looks like he can hit he will be in the lineup. I really surprised Merrifield, Espinal, and Biggio are all still here.

 

according to reports he will be getting reps in the OF this spring training. Though im curious as to why he's being pegged as a second baseman, he has a cannon for an arm in the IF and could easily be the heir apparent at 3b when Chappy leaves.

Posted
Man - I used to think it was a given that a SS prospect would be above average defensively at 3rd or 2nd, but the reports on Barger and Orelvis are discouraging.

 

Sounds fine to me, Longenhagen is just one source BA has him as fine defensively...

 

Barger can play multiple positions on the infield. His sound actions and plus arm strength should allow him to stick at shortstop as an average defender, and he can also capably play second base or third base.

 

The Future: Barger's power and defense give him a chance to be a regular in the middle infield. He is in position to make his major league debut in 2023.

 

Scouting Grades: Hitting: 45. Power: 55. Run: 50. Field: 50. Arm: 60

 

And there's Law on his defense...

 

He’s not a shortstop but he’s solid at third and I see no reason he couldn’t handle second. He could be a regular at either of those spots on a non-contender, whereas for a good club he’s a very good utility infielder who can handle short on a temporary basis and would also be a valuable pinch-hitter when he’s sitting against a lefty starter.

Posted
ZiPS likes the Jays prospects it seems:

 

 

Interesting. I will guess Gabriel Martinez is one of them. Low K%, OK BB%, good contract, pretty big jump in power, and very young for his level. Statistical models probably love him.

Posted
Looking at Orelvis' FG page, it appears ZiPS is projecting a 100 wRC+ and 2.0 WAR for him in 2023, so I would think he's definitely one of the 3.
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I was looking at the ZIPS projections earlier and it also likes Davis Schneider(?) as a 100 wRC+ bat as a 2B/3B.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/davis-schneider/sa3004518/stats?position=2B/3B

 

 

Who?

 

I'm not as up on the milb system as much as I once was but I still would have thought I had at least heard of this guy.

 

 

I even searched his name in this thread. Only one mention since 2018 - and that was a copy-pasted prospects chat lol

 

 

The hit tool probably stinks and maybe he isn't a prospect at all. I just thought it was funny that ZIPS sees this seemingly random player in the system as a league average mlb bat.

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I was looking at the ZIPS projections earlier and it also likes Davis Schneider(?) as a 100 wRC+ bat as a 2B/3B.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/davis-schneider/sa3004518/stats?position=2B/3B

 

 

Who?

 

I'm not as up on the milb system as much as I once was but I still would have thought I had at least heard of this guy.

 

 

I even searched his name in this thread. Only one mention since 2018 - and that was a copy-pasted prospects chat lol

 

 

The hit tool probably stinks and maybe he isn't a prospect at all. I just thought it was funny that ZIPS sees this seemingly random player in the system as a league average mlb bat.

 

As Captain Obvious says above, Zips statistical models pick up guys that had a somewhat kind of breakout, he wasn't bad, but he has zero helium from the industry pundits.

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Looks like the Jays cheque cleared finally.

 

Check out who is at 5!! Plus at 13, 26.

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/zips-2023-top-100-prospects/

 

wild

 

most of the names on the entire list make sense but Orelvis in that spot sticks out like crazy.

 

The most controversial projection here may be that of Orelvis Martinez, who ranks above some seriously high-quality shortstop prospects. Most of that is a dispute over position; there’s a real question whether he can stick at short or will move to third base. ZiPS uses a Total Zone-esque method for looking at minor league defense, for which I have the location/angle hit of every defensive play in the minors. This method nailed players like Luis Robert Jr. as minor leaguers, and right now, it thinks Martinez is below average but not alarmingly so. If he turns out to be Hanley Ramirez-esque at shortstop, he drops very quickly in the rankings given the competition here.
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Posted
Has Baseball Prospectus or ProspectLive come out with their listings yet?

 

yeah but for PL but they went partial subscription. they only show you top 10 and blurbs for top 5

 

i stopped looking at BP a few years ago. not sure if it's any good anymore

Posted
wild

 

most of the names on the entire list make sense but Orelvis in that spot sticks out like crazy.

 

Seems all out of whack.

 

Feels like this is some sort of bizarre attempt at balancing out many of the 'prospect fatigue' rankings Orelvis has been getting recently. I can see arguments for him in the back half of the top 100, but with power as his one lone standout tool, it seems way too ambitious.

Posted
yeah but for PL but they went partial subscription. they only show you top 10 and blurbs for top 5

 

i stopped looking at BP a few years ago. not sure if it's any good anymore

 

I remember BP being a pitcher heavy model and BA was the opposite, I believe. Wasn't aware of them being poo, though. So PL has issued it's top 100 and no-one has a script, haha!

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Seems all out of whack.

 

Feels like this is some sort of bizarre attempt at balancing out many of the 'prospect fatigue' rankings Orelvis has been getting recently. I can see arguments for him in the back half of the top 100, but with power as his one lone standout tool, it seems way too ambitious.

 

It's just a model. There are always weird players on the ZiPS top 100 rankings. The factors that it would love on Orelvis:

 

- 20 year old in AA

- shortstop

- .242 ISO is amazing

- 8.1% walk rate is not bad

- 28.5% strikeout rate is bad but not horrendous

 

the slashline (AVG/OBP... and wRC+) might not even be an input

 

maybe the model has flaws. probably it does.

 

but also... maybe everyone has overcorrected on Orelvis.

 

It may be instructive to find historical comparisons who were: in AA at 20 or younger, had walk rates over 7% and K rates under 30%, had 250+ PA, and an ISO over .200.

 

Here is everybody since 2010:

 

1 2013 Miguel Sanó MIN AA 20 276 13.0% 29.3% 0.44 .236 .344 .571 .915 .335 4.8 .265 -0.1 47 14.8 .397 145

3 2022 Francisco Álvarez NYM AA 20 296 12.2% 24.0% 0.51 .277 .368 .553 .922 .277 1.3 .310 -0.5 54 17.1 .394 146

4 2017 Rafael Devers BOS AA 20 320 9.7% 17.2% 0.56 .300 .369 .575 .944 .275 3.7 .316 -1.2 58 20.4 .408 155

5 2018 Vladimir Guerrero Jr. TOR AA 19 266 7.9% 10.2% 0.78 .402 .449 .671 1.120 .269 3.6 .402 -0.7 64 32.7 .481 203

6 2012 Oscar Taveras STL AA 20 531 7.9% 10.5% 0.75 .321 .380 .572 .953 .252 6.3 .323 1.3 99 36.6 .411 159

7 2017 Kyle Tucker HOU AA 20 318 6.9% 20.1% 0.34 .265 .325 .512 .837 .247 4.5 .286 -0.2 47 10.6 .368 129

8 2022 Jhonkensy Noel CLE AA 20 278 10.8% 22.7% 0.48 .242 .338 .488 .826 .246 5.3 .271 0.0 43 8.1 .360 123

9 2013 Domingo Santana HOU AA 20 476 9.7% 29.2% 0.33 .252 .345 .498 .842 .245 5.4 .316 0.3 74 20.2 .372 137

10 2022 Orelvis Martinez TOR AA 20 492 8.1% 28.5% 0.29 .203 .286 .446 .732 .242 3.1 .217 -0.7 60 -2.2 .319 96

11 2019 Dylan Carlson STL AA 20 483 10.8% 20.3% 0.53 .281 .364 .518 .882 .237 7.1 .315 0.5 81 24.3 .387 142

12 2022 Ezequiel Tovar COL AA 20 295 8.5% 21.7% 0.39 .318 .386 .545 .932 .227 6.8 .378 1.5 57 19.6 .405 153

13 2021 Riley Greene DET AA 20 373 11.0% 27.3% 0.40 .298 .381 .525 .905 .227 7.4 .386 1.7 68 21.1 .391 145

15 2018 Fernando Tatis Jr. SDP AA 19 394 8.4% 27.7% 0.30 .286 .355 .507 .862 .221 7.7 .370 1.0 64 16.0 .379 133

16 2016 Cody Bellinger LAD AA 20 465 12.7% 20.2% 0.63 .263 .359 .484 .843 .221 3.9 .287 0.8 73 21.4 .375 142

17 2014 Dilson Herrera NYM AA 20 278 10.4% 18.7% 0.56 .340 .406 .560 .967 .220 6.5 .389 0.0 54 21.4 .424 166

18 2011 Mike Trout LAA AA 19 412 10.9% 18.4% 0.59 .326 .414 .544 .958 .218 8.7 .390 1.8 82 29.5 .421 156

19 2010 Anthony Rizzo BOS AA 20 467 9.6% 21.4% 0.45 .263 .334 .481 .815 .217 4.0 .297 0.9 67 10.4 .358 118

20 2012 Jon Singleton HOU AA 20 555 15.9% 23.6% 0.67 .284 .396 .497 .893 .213 5.2 .350 0.2 97 31.6 .396 148

21 2022 Jordan Walker STL AA 20 536 10.8% 21.6% 0.50 .306 .388 .510 .898 .204 6.7 .365 0.9 98 21.5 .396 128

 

I mean... you can see why the model likes him

 

of course his wRC+ is the worst on this list and his K rate is one of the worst

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Posted

Like, people look at Martinez' 2022 slashline and think "man, this guy can't hit"

 

I don't think it's necessarily that bad. The flyballs might be a bigger issue than the strikeouts. And a minor change in swing plane to bring that launch angle down just a tiiiiiiiny bit might be easier than fixing a literal hole and the swing, and it might be enough to turn a .203/.286/.446 hitter in AA into one who hits say .253/.336/.500

Posted
Like, people look at Martinez' 2022 slashline and think "man, this guy can't hit"

 

I don't think it's necessarily that bad. The flyballs might be a bigger issue than the strikeouts. And a minor change in swing plane to bring that launch angle down just a tiiiiiiiny bit might be easier than fixing a literal hole and the swing, and it might be enough to turn a .203/.286/.446 hitter in AA into one who hits say .253/.336/.500

 

And it's never been easier for players to identify and fix issues with swing path issues...You can send him to the lab and make adjustments with all the data you'd ever need to see whether it's working. You can create new muscle memory in 1 offseason if you put the effort in.

 

That said - I bet Orelvis spent the offseason in the DR hitting on the sandlot. Can someone explain why the Jays wouldn't have made him stay in Dunedin to fix his flaws?

Posted
It's just a model. There are always weird players on the ZiPS top 100 rankings. The factors that it would love on Orelvis:

 

- 20 year old in AA

- shortstop

- .242 ISO is amazing

- 8.1% walk rate is not bad

- 28.5% strikeout rate is bad but not horrendous

 

the slashline (AVG/OBP... and wRC+) might not even be an input

 

maybe the model has flaws. probably it does.

 

but also... maybe everyone has overcorrected on Orelvis.

 

It may be instructive to find historical comparisons who were: in AA at 20 or younger, had walk rates over 7% and K rates under 30%, had 250+ PA, and an ISO over .200.

 

Here is everybody since 2010:

 

1 2013 Miguel Sanó MIN AA 20 276 13.0% 29.3% 0.44 .236 .344 .571 .915 .335 4.8 .265 -0.1 47 14.8 .397 145

3 2022 Francisco Álvarez NYM AA 20 296 12.2% 24.0% 0.51 .277 .368 .553 .922 .277 1.3 .310 -0.5 54 17.1 .394 146

4 2017 Rafael Devers BOS AA 20 320 9.7% 17.2% 0.56 .300 .369 .575 .944 .275 3.7 .316 -1.2 58 20.4 .408 155

5 2018 Vladimir Guerrero Jr. TOR AA 19 266 7.9% 10.2% 0.78 .402 .449 .671 1.120 .269 3.6 .402 -0.7 64 32.7 .481 203

6 2012 Oscar Taveras STL AA 20 531 7.9% 10.5% 0.75 .321 .380 .572 .953 .252 6.3 .323 1.3 99 36.6 .411 159

7 2017 Kyle Tucker HOU AA 20 318 6.9% 20.1% 0.34 .265 .325 .512 .837 .247 4.5 .286 -0.2 47 10.6 .368 129

8 2022 Jhonkensy Noel CLE AA 20 278 10.8% 22.7% 0.48 .242 .338 .488 .826 .246 5.3 .271 0.0 43 8.1 .360 123

9 2013 Domingo Santana HOU AA 20 476 9.7% 29.2% 0.33 .252 .345 .498 .842 .245 5.4 .316 0.3 74 20.2 .372 137

10 2022 Orelvis Martinez TOR AA 20 492 8.1% 28.5% 0.29 .203 .286 .446 .732 .242 3.1 .217 -0.7 60 -2.2 .319 96

11 2019 Dylan Carlson STL AA 20 483 10.8% 20.3% 0.53 .281 .364 .518 .882 .237 7.1 .315 0.5 81 24.3 .387 142

12 2022 Ezequiel Tovar COL AA 20 295 8.5% 21.7% 0.39 .318 .386 .545 .932 .227 6.8 .378 1.5 57 19.6 .405 153

13 2021 Riley Greene DET AA 20 373 11.0% 27.3% 0.40 .298 .381 .525 .905 .227 7.4 .386 1.7 68 21.1 .391 145

15 2018 Fernando Tatis Jr. SDP AA 19 394 8.4% 27.7% 0.30 .286 .355 .507 .862 .221 7.7 .370 1.0 64 16.0 .379 133

16 2016 Cody Bellinger LAD AA 20 465 12.7% 20.2% 0.63 .263 .359 .484 .843 .221 3.9 .287 0.8 73 21.4 .375 142

17 2014 Dilson Herrera NYM AA 20 278 10.4% 18.7% 0.56 .340 .406 .560 .967 .220 6.5 .389 0.0 54 21.4 .424 166

18 2011 Mike Trout LAA AA 19 412 10.9% 18.4% 0.59 .326 .414 .544 .958 .218 8.7 .390 1.8 82 29.5 .421 156

19 2010 Anthony Rizzo BOS AA 20 467 9.6% 21.4% 0.45 .263 .334 .481 .815 .217 4.0 .297 0.9 67 10.4 .358 118

20 2012 Jon Singleton HOU AA 20 555 15.9% 23.6% 0.67 .284 .396 .497 .893 .213 5.2 .350 0.2 97 31.6 .396 148

21 2022 Jordan Walker STL AA 20 536 10.8% 21.6% 0.50 .306 .388 .510 .898 .204 6.7 .365 0.9 98 21.5 .396 128

 

I mean... you can see why the model likes him

 

of course his wRC+ is the worst on this list and his K rate is one of the worst

 

I like what you did here but a more apt comparison would not be to just take the "in AA at 20 or younger, had walk rates over 7% and K rates under 30%" line, more like "in AA at 20 or younger, had walk rates over 7% and K rates over 25%"

 

Under 30 is too broad and doesnt differentiate between a guy at 29% vs a guy at 15% which is a really big difference.

 

 

Loks like that would Put him in the camp with Sano, Tatis Jr, Santana, Greene.

 

Not a terrible list.

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I like what you did here but a more apt comparison would not be to just take the "in AA at 20 or younger, had walk rates over 7% and K rates under 30%" line, more like "in AA at 20 or younger, had walk rates over 7% and K rates over 25%"

 

Under 30 is too broad and doesnt differentiate between a guy at 29% vs a guy at 15% which is a really big difference.

 

 

Loks like that would Put him in the camp with Sano, Tatis Jr, Santana, Greene.

 

Not a terrible list.

 

That turns the K rate filter from a positive to a negative, which wasn't where my head was. I was kind of thinking "jeez, to be 20 in AA and not strikeout 30% of the time is actually sort of decent in this year of our lord 2022 when the MLB average K rate is like 24%"

 

But, interestingly enough it barely matters. If we just remove the K% filter entirely the only player that gets added to the sample is Joey Gallo, who hit .232/.334/.524 in 2014 with a 39.5% K rate and 12.4% walk rate.

 

I've seen Gallo as a comp for Orelvis before. Like, a less extreme version of Gallo.

 

Gallo hit as poorly as Orelvis did this year, in Joey's age 21 season in AAA

Posted
That turns the K rate filter from a positive to a negative, which wasn't where my head was. I was kind of thinking "jeez, to be 20 in AA and not strikeout 30% of the time is actually sort of decent in this year of our lord 2022 when the MLB average K rate is like 24%"

 

But, interestingly enough it barely matters. If we just remove the K% filter entirely the only player that gets added to the sample is Joey Gallo, who hit .232/.334/.524 in 2014 with a 39.5% K rate and 12.4% walk rate.

 

I've seen Gallo as a comp for Orelvis before. Like, a less extreme version of Gallo.

 

Gallo hit as poorly as Orelvis did this year, in Joey's age 21 season in AAA

 

Sano is probably about the perfect comparison for Orelvis right now. It would be nice to get some of the early seasons he had out of Orelvis for sure, but hopefully with better health. Sano had a better eye though he always walked well above league average.

Posted
I like what you did here but a more apt comparison would not be to just take the "in AA at 20 or younger, had walk rates over 7% and K rates under 30%" line, more like "in AA at 20 or younger, had walk rates over 7% and K rates over 25%"

 

Under 30 is too broad and doesnt differentiate between a guy at 29% vs a guy at 15% which is a really big difference.

 

 

Loks like that would Put him in the camp with Sano, Tatis Jr, Santana, Greene.

 

Not a terrible list.

 

I agree but I would go further and say even the smaller list is not that close. Every player on the list had at least one more thing going for them. This shows in the wRC+ where Olervis is last by a mile.

 

I am not saying that Olervis is a lost cause. He remains very promising still. However, he needs to make major adjustments. Luckily, he is young enough that he has a higher chance to succeed than the average prospect.

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Sano is probably about the perfect comparison for Orelvis right now. It would be nice to get some of the early seasons he had out of Orelvis for sure, but hopefully with better health. Sano had a better eye though he always walked well above league average.

 

Sano also had zero defensive value most years (DH quality) and was a horrible baserunner. If Martinez can play an average third base and run the bases competently he doesn't even need to hit as much.

Posted
Sano also had zero defensive value most years (DH quality) and was a horrible baserunner. If Martinez can play an average third base and run the bases competently he doesn't even need to hit as much.

Paul DeJong?

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Let's flip the search around. AA and 20 years or younger, but sort by wRC+ ascending. Again, since 2010.

 

First thing I notice - none of the players who were below average by wRC+ had an ISO anywhere close to Orelvis'.

 

Anthony Rizzo had a .217 ISO and a 118 wRC+ in 2010 but nobody else below Rizzo even had a .180 wRC+. So Orelvis' power is incomparable to this pool of young prospects who struggled in AA.

 

Most of the names who had below average wRC+ on this list ended up as solid MLB players or are still too young to write off. But most of them are very differently kinds of players... slappy infielders. Guys like Nick Castellanos, Jonathan Schoop, and Jose Ramirez! are there.

 

Since 2010 there have been 71 players aged 20 or under get 250+ PA in AA in a single season. Orelvis' ranks:

 

BB% 34th

K% 67th

AVG 71st

BABIP 71st

wRC+ 55th

ISO 10th

FB% 3rd

LD% 58th

 

It's just so bizarre to see a BABIP that low from a player who can hit the ball so hard. The flyballs are to blame for some of it but I just think a good chunk was bad luck and he could've hit .230 or .240 with no change in skill and just some better ball luck.

 

The one strictly negative example I see is Hudson Potts, who at 24 is probably not going to figure it out. He was similar to Orelvis in a lot of ways, back in 2019. Again, the game power is not really comparable though (Orelvis was near .300 ISOs in prior seasons, Potts was just over .200 in his best MiLB years).

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Let's flip the search around. AA and 20 years or younger, but sort by wRC+ ascending. Again, since 2010.

 

First thing I notice - none of the players who were below average by wRC+ had an ISO anywhere close to Orelvis'.

 

Anthony Rizzo had a .217 ISO and a 118 wRC+ in 2010 but nobody else below Rizzo even had a .180 wRC+. So Orelvis' power is incomparable to this pool of young prospects who struggled in AA.

 

Most of the names who had below average wRC+ on this list ended up as solid MLB players or are still too young to write off. But most of them are very differently kinds of players... slappy infielders. Guys like Nick Castellanos, Jonathan Schoop, and Jose Ramirez! are there.

 

Since 2010 there have been 71 players aged 20 or under get 250+ PA in AA in a single season. Orelvis' ranks:

 

BB% 34th

K% 67th

AVG 71st

BABIP 71st

wRC+ 55th

ISO 10th

FB% 3rd

LD% 58th

 

It's just so bizarre to see a BABIP that low from a player who can hit the ball so hard. The flyballs are to blame for some of it but I just think a good chunk was bad luck and he could've hit .230 or .240 with no change in skill and just some better ball luck.

 

The one strictly negative example I see is Hudson Potts, who at 24 is probably not going to figure it out. He was similar to Orelvis in a lot of ways, back in 2019. Again, the game power is not really comparable though (Orelvis was near .300 ISOs in prior seasons, Potts was just over .200 in his best MiLB years).

 

Will this skillset translate to the MLB? If he can't stop chasing against AA pitchers, he's going to have a hard time hitting against MLB staffs and generic bullpen monkeys throwing 100 with a sweeping slider.

 

He's could very well suck terribly for at least a year or two when he comes up. That would be fine on a team like the Reds but for a team that's trying to win that's going to be tough to work into the lineup.

 

Very open to being wrong about this

Posted
Let's flip the search around. AA and 20 years or younger, but sort by wRC+ ascending. Again, since 2010.

 

First thing I notice - none of the players who were below average by wRC+ had an ISO anywhere close to Orelvis'.

 

Anthony Rizzo had a .217 ISO and a 118 wRC+ in 2010 but nobody else below Rizzo even had a .180 wRC+. So Orelvis' power is incomparable to this pool of young prospects who struggled in AA.

 

Most of the names who had below average wRC+ on this list ended up as solid MLB players or are still too young to write off. But most of them are very differently kinds of players... slappy infielders. Guys like Nick Castellanos, Jonathan Schoop, and Jose Ramirez! are there.

 

Since 2010 there have been 71 players aged 20 or under get 250+ PA in AA in a single season. Orelvis' ranks:

 

BB% 34th

K% 67th

AVG 71st

BABIP 71st

wRC+ 55th

ISO 10th

FB% 3rd

LD% 58th

 

It's just so bizarre to see a BABIP that low from a player who can hit the ball so hard. The flyballs are to blame for some of it but I just think a good chunk was bad luck and he could've hit .230 or .240 with no change in skill and just some better ball luck.

 

The one strictly negative example I see is Hudson Potts, who at 24 is probably not going to figure it out. He was similar to Orelvis in a lot of ways, back in 2019. Again, the game power is not really comparable though (Orelvis was near .300 ISOs in prior seasons, Potts was just over .200 in his best MiLB years).

 

I'll try to watch a few more games this year and see what's up, but my suspicion is that he's just super swing happy. Probably the hardest thing to try and change while maintaining elite level power output.

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I'll try to watch a few more games this year and see what's up, but my suspicion is that he's just super swing happy. Probably the hardest thing to try and change while maintaining elite level power output.

 

Gets dominated by breaking balls.

 

There are some full PA videos from 2022 on youtube. Lots of whiffs on benders, even from LHP.

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Will this skillset translate to the MLB? If he can't stop chasing against AA pitchers, he's going to have a hard time hitting against MLB staffs and generic bullpen monkeys throwing 100 with a sweeping slider.

 

He's could very well suck terribly for at least a year or two when he comes up. That would be fine on a team like the Reds but for a team that's trying to win that's going to be tough to work into the lineup.

 

Very open to being wrong about this

 

Oh he definitely needs to make improvements. But maybe they can be incremental improvements like most prospects make and not wholesale profile changes. Like if he is hitting 48% flyballs instead of 51% flyballs, and improving his swing decisions on sliders just a bit, maybe that's enough.

Posted
Gets dominated by breaking balls.

 

There are some full PA videos from 2022 on youtube. Lots of whiffs on benders, even from LHP.

 

He has to be one of the higher variance prospects in the minors right now. Outcomes could range from AAAA hitter to MLB's home run leader. As you said, there was no one his age struggling in AA who came close to having his ISO in recent years. A unicorn.

 

Will be interesting to see what happens!

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He has to be one of the higher variance prospects in the minors right now. Outcomes could range from AAAA hitter to MLB's home run leader. As you said, there was no one his age struggling in AA who came close to having his ISO in recent years. A unicorn.

 

Will be interesting to see what happens!

 

His power is insane. Watch the HR at the start of this video. It's like a Vlad laser.

 

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