Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[connorp]

Yes, off-board. You are spot on. For whatever reason, his industry rankings (across the board) vs his Fantasy (actual) value is much much less. It's like having the biggest nicest house in a s*** neighborhood.

 

Yeah stats scared away the fantasy players but not scouts.. and it’s not like he’s glove-first prospect

[Ray]

Zulueta’s delivery is CLEAN. Time to get on the hype train:

 

[saskjayfan]

Zulueta’s delivery is CLEAN. Time to get on the hype train:

 

 

I hope they stretch him out and see what he can do as a starter.

[Spanky__99]

I hope they stretch him out and see what he can do as a starter.

 

Most likely, but nothing has been said on that front.

[43211234]

Zulueta has 52 walks in 77 career innings in Cuba.

 

Hopefully he can figure out how to harness his stuff but he appears to be pretty wild.

 

Edit - Actually 116 BB in all the 163.2 innings on Baseball Reference. His Cuban numbers are aggregated weirdly on BR. It also looks like he pitched 10 innings in an exhibition series of Cubans against Can-Am Indy teams in 2017.

[Laika]

Zulueta has 52 walks in 77 career innings in Cuba.

 

Hopefully he can figure out how to harness his stuff but he appears to be pretty wild.

 

Edit - Actually 116 BB in all the 163.2 innings on Baseball Reference. His Cuban numbers are aggregated weirdly on BR. It also looks like he pitched 10 innings in an exhibition series of Cubans against Can-Am Indy teams in 2017.

 

Cuba is a weird place for pitching. You'll notice that everybody there has a crummy K/BB.

 

It's kind of like MLB way back in the day. The hitters play like batting average is king. I think it's tough to get strikeouts unless you do so wayyy out of the zone. There are hitters there who strikeouts like, five times all season.

[Carlos Danger]

Cuba is a weird place for pitching. You'll notice that everybody there has a crummy K/BB.

 

It's kind of like MLB way back in the day. The hitters play like batting average is king. I think it's tough to get strikeouts unless you do so wayyy out of the zone. There are hitters there who strikeouts like, five times all season.

 

You can't bunt your way or K your way off the Island...

[Deadpool]

You can't bunt your way or K your way off the Island...

 

I don't think that expression really applies to Cuba...

[Jimcanuck]

J-Rod looks very fit, thought he was getting a little fat-assed, but nope.

 

[Laika]

Baseball America international IFA board came out. 20 names, Jays linked to one of them.

 

10

Luis Meza 2021

VenezuelaC

Notes:

Born: Sept. 11, 2004. B-T: R-R. Ht.: 5-11. Wt.: 185.

 

Venezuela consistently is home to top international catchers, with Diego Cartaya (Dodgers), Francisco Alvarez (Mets) and Ronnier Quintero (Cubs) in the most recent signing classes. Meza fits into that tier of players as a catcher who projects to stick behind the plate and is one of the better hitters in Venezuela. He has a loose, easy swing with a knack for being on time and strong game performance. He's a high-contact hitter who uses the whole field, with room on his broad-shouldered frame to fill out and drive the ball with more impact as he gets stronger. Meza's catch-and-throw skills are also advanced for his age. The Blue Jays are expected to sign Meza, who trains with Kander Depablos and Reynaldo Gonzalez.

[BlueRocky]

J-Rod looks very fit, thought he was getting a little fat-assed, but nope.

 

 

Some players are instantly recognizable even with a mask on.

[Krylian]

Baseball America international IFA board came out. 20 names, Jays linked to one of them.

 

10

Luis Meza 2021

VenezuelaC

Notes:

Born: Sept. 11, 2004. B-T: R-R. Ht.: 5-11. Wt.: 185.

 

Venezuela consistently is home to top international catchers, with Diego Cartaya (Dodgers), Francisco Alvarez (Mets) and Ronnier Quintero (Cubs) in the most recent signing classes. Meza fits into that tier of players as a catcher who projects to stick behind the plate and is one of the better hitters in Venezuela. He has a loose, easy swing with a knack for being on time and strong game performance. He's a high-contact hitter who uses the whole field, with room on his broad-shouldered frame to fill out and drive the ball with more impact as he gets stronger. Meza's catch-and-throw skills are also advanced for his age. The Blue Jays are expected to sign Meza, who trains with Kander Depablos and Reynaldo Gonzalez.

 

Hmmm...when's the last time the Jays went after a high profile IFA catcher?

[Laika]

Hmmm...when's the last time the Jays went after a high profile IFA catcher?

 

Well none of the current crop were high profile. Kirk signed for three hot dogs, Moreno was $25k, and I don't even think there are reported bonuses for Javier D'Orazio (2018) and Victor Mesia (2019).

 

The most expensive Catcher in the entire organization in terms of signing bonus was Reese McGuire by far ($2.6M). The next highest might be Riley Adams at like $550k.

 

You might need to ask some of the older fans.

[P2F]

Mesia was 300K, for the record.

 

[King]

Well none of the current crop were high profile. Kirk signed for three hot dogs, Moreno was $25k, and I don't even think there are reported bonuses for Javier D'Orazio (2018) and Victor Mesia (2019).

 

The most expensive Catcher in the entire organization in terms of signing bonus was Reese McGuire by far ($2.6M). The next highest might be Riley Adams at like $550k.

 

You might need to ask some of the older fans.

 

Moreno was also signed as a shortstop. I think.. or he became a catcher shortly before he signed.

 

Jansen signed for like 200K out of no where in Wisconsin.

[Laika]

The amateur catcher algorithm that North has written must be pretty good.

[Spanky__99]

The amateur catcher algorithm that North has written must be pretty good.

 

lol

[bendera3]

Well none of the current crop were high profile. Kirk signed for three hot dogs, Moreno was $25k, and I don't even think there are reported bonuses for Javier D'Orazio (2018) and Victor Mesia (2019).

 

The most expensive Catcher in the entire organization in terms of signing bonus was Reese McGuire by far ($2.6M). The next highest might be Riley Adams at like $550k.

 

You might need to ask some of the older fans.

 

I'm assuming you're just talking Jays catchers in general and not just those drafted or signed as an IFA by the Jays because we traded for Reese.

[Krylian]

Jays signed Guillermo Quiroz in '98 for $1M. I think that would qualify.

 

I was curious about Delgado as he was signed as a catcher, but his bonus was only $90K

[Krylian]

I'm assuming you're just talking Jays catchers in general and not just those drafted or signed as an IFA by the Jays because we traded for Reese.

 

I was actually thinking IFA's, but even draft wise, I know JPA was one a 1st rounder...and I remember we took Matt Stark 9th overall in '83 cause I kept hearing how we should've taken Clemens instead.

[Deadpool]

Jays signed Guillermo Quiroz in '98 for $1M. I think that would qualify.

 

I was curious about Delgado as he was signed as a catcher, but his bonus was only $90K

 

Arencibia's signing bonus (assuming my quick Googling was correct) was $1.3M

[G-Snarls]

Arencibia's signing bonus (assuming my quick Googling was correct) was $1.3M

 

I was going to say he made so little after that it's a good thing he married a gorgeous sugar momma

 

Then I just found she dumped his cheating ass in 2019... smh

 

https://www.eonline.com/news/1056450/the-band-perry-s-kimberly-perry-sings-about-infidelity-after-divorce-from-j-p-arencibia

[Olerud363]

Well none of the current crop were high profile. Kirk signed for three hot dogs, Moreno was $25k, and I don't even think there are reported bonuses for Javier D'Orazio (2018) and Victor Mesia (2019).

 

The most expensive Catcher in the entire organization in terms of signing bonus was Reese McGuire by far ($2.6M). The next highest might be Riley Adams at like $550k.

 

You might need to ask some of the older fans.

 

Guillermo Quiroz signed for 1 million --

 

He was one of these guys that went the 1 level a year time table because it took him a while to get over .200

 

Quiroz started hitting at Dunedin and had a good year in 2003 I think

 

But he never did anything in the majors.

 

1 million was a lot in the late 90s.

[Jimcanuck]

 

Landing spot unknown.

[connorp]

 

Landing spot unknown.

 

I could prob find some similar Greg Bird clips. You should’ve ponied up for Tatis while you had the chance

[Orgfiller]

I could prob find some similar Greg Bird clips. You should’ve ponied up for Tatis while you had the chance

 

Greg Bird was on track to become a pretty good big leaguer if he wasn't made of glass. Guy could rake.

[Spanky__99]

 

Landing spot unknown.

 

I was watching that game, he destroyed that ball.

[Krylian]

I was watching that game, he destroyed that ball.

 

Sounded like the ball literally exploded. That's right....literally.

Edited March 6, 2021 by Krylian

[Jimcanuck]

Forrest Whitley is hurt again.

[Ray]

Lol Pirates