Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[Daniel Labude]

3 straight games with 0 Ks for Orelvis. 0 hits, but could be something has clicked. Could see a really hot streak coming soon, or could just be a random occurrence

 

4th straight game 0 Ks. Went 1-3 with a 1B and a BB tonight

[Dagagad]

Rained out

 

It looks like they are playing at home and there is no way it’s rained out in Vancouver today. It’s glorious weather.

[Daniel Labude]

It looks like they are playing at home and there is no way it’s rained out in Vancouver today. It’s glorious weather.

 

They are warming up

[Spanky99]

4th straight game 0 Ks. Went 1-3 with a 1B and a BB tonight

 

The other Martinez is better.

[Daniel Labude]

The other Martinez is better.

 

Don't think so, but he has a chance

[Benito]

Is Frasso getting squeezed? Or is he just a little wild so far? Some of the balls looked like strikes according to Gameday.

[Spanky99]

Is Frasso getting squeezed? Or is he just a little wild so far? Some of the balls looked like strikes according to Gameday.

 

Gameday and umpires are bad...

[Benito]

Gameday and umpires are bad...

 

Haha. True. It's all I have access to unfortunately. Unless anyone have milb streams?

[Daniel Labude]

Is Frasso getting squeezed? Or is he just a little wild so far? Some of the balls looked like strikes according to Gameday.

 

Probably, but most of the low minors pitch locations aren't accurate on gameday, just generalized

[Spanky99]

Haha. True. It's all I have access to unfortunately. Unless anyone have milb streams?

 

Nah, noone streams them, you'd have to buy MILBTV.

 

It's cheap by the way.

[Spanky99]

Haha. True. It's all I have access to unfortunately. Unless anyone have milb streams?

 

You want to chop an account?

[Benito]

Nah, noone streams them, you'd have to buy MILBTV.

 

It's cheap by the way.

 

I think I will. Thanks.

 

Not the usual dominance from Frasso, but not too bad overall.

[Spanky99]

I think I will. Thanks.

 

Not the usual dominance from Frasso, but not too bad overall.

 

You want to chop an account? I'll just use the replay function. Hame logs will be there for everything so you can go back and watch from the beginning on any player, any league televised.

[Spanky99]

Haha. True. It's all I have access to unfortunately. Unless anyone have milb streams?

 

I sent you a response, I just want to pay, lol.

 

Cheers Bro!

[Solaxys]

Ricky Tiedemann

 

19 | Starter | Toronto | Low A/High A

 

2.13 ERA, 67 2/3 IP, 40 K%, 10 BB%

 

Two years ago, Tiedemann bet on himself. Undrafted due to signability concerns, he dropped his commitment to San Diego State and enrolled at a junior college to re-enter the draft the next year. The Blue Jays nabbed him with a third-round pick in 2021 and their reward is a budding ace. “He might be one of the best left-handed pitching prospects in the game,” said one scout of the swaggering southpaw who hits 99 mph with ride and run. That heater isn’t his only weapon. Tiedemann mixes in a heavy sinker, a sweeping slider and a low-80s changeup that he has shown he can use against both righties and lefties. He’s 6-4 and 19 years old — 19 years old! — and he could grow into even nastier stuff. He’s Toronto’s best prospect not named Gabriel Moreno.

 

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Yosver Zulueta

 

24 | Starter | Toronto | Low A/High A/Double A

 

3.70 ERA, 41 1/3 IP, 35 K%, 10 BB%

 

Entering this season, Zulueta had faced one batter as a Blue Jays farmhand. Signed for $1 million out of Cuba in June 2019, Zulueta missed the rest of that season and all of 2020 after requiring Tommy John surgery. He took the mound for his first post-surgery start last year and … tore his ACL covering first. Now 24, he’s finally healthy and galloping toward the majors. He delivers 97 mph from the right side with a lot of life, pairing it with a slider that flashes plus and takes a sharp left turn. There’s also an above-average curveball and an average changeup that could develop into better. The delivery is high-effort, which may doom him to relieverhood, but he’ll blow some bats away in a big-league bullpen if it comes to that. And it may, perhaps as soon as this year.

 

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From the new Athletic post re. Scouts on AL Futures

[Daniel Labude]

Ricky Tiedemann

 

19 | Starter | Toronto | Low A/High A

 

2.13 ERA, 67 2/3 IP, 40 K%, 10 BB%

 

Two years ago, Tiedemann bet on himself. Undrafted due to signability concerns, he dropped his commitment to San Diego State and enrolled at a junior college to re-enter the draft the next year. The Blue Jays nabbed him with a third-round pick in 2021 and their reward is a budding ace. “He might be one of the best left-handed pitching prospects in the game,” said one scout of the swaggering southpaw who hits 99 mph with ride and run. That heater isn’t his only weapon. Tiedemann mixes in a heavy sinker, a sweeping slider and a low-80s changeup that he has shown he can use against both righties and lefties. He’s 6-4 and 19 years old — 19 years old! — and he could grow into even nastier stuff. He’s Toronto’s best prospect not named Gabriel Moreno.

 

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Yosver Zulueta

 

24 | Starter | Toronto | Low A/High A/Double A

 

3.70 ERA, 41 1/3 IP, 35 K%, 10 BB%

 

Entering this season, Zulueta had faced one batter as a Blue Jays farmhand. Signed for $1 million out of Cuba in June 2019, Zulueta missed the rest of that season and all of 2020 after requiring Tommy John surgery. He took the mound for his first post-surgery start last year and … tore his ACL covering first. Now 24, he’s finally healthy and galloping toward the majors. He delivers 97 mph from the right side with a lot of life, pairing it with a slider that flashes plus and takes a sharp left turn. There’s also an above-average curveball and an average changeup that could develop into better. The delivery is high-effort, which may doom him to relieverhood, but he’ll blow some bats away in a big-league bullpen if it comes to that. And it may, perhaps as soon as this year.

 

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From the new Athletic post re. Scouts on AL Futures

 

How can anyone say Zulueta has a high effort delivery

 

[Laika]

How can anyone say Zulueta has a high effort delivery

 

 

yeah it looks smooth to me

[Eat My Shatkins]

Jesus

 

Zulu, Frasso, Tiedemann....

 

Stay healthy and keep climbing the ladder fellas.

 

Pearson still lurking too. One of these days he might actually stay healthy lol

[Blazeit420]

4th straight game 0 Ks. Went 1-3 with a 1B and a BB tonight

 

Pretty rough game tonight. 0-4 with 4 K's.

[Solaxys]

Top 30 Midseason Update:

 

1. Gabriel Moreno

2. Ricky Tiedemann

3. Jordan Groshans

4. Orelvis Martinez

5. Yosver Zulueta

6. Nate Pearson

7. Sem Robberse

8. Hayden Juenger

9. Leo Jimenez

10. Luis Meza

11. Spencer Horwitz

12. Gabriel Martinez

13. Nick Frasso

14. Maximo Castillo

15. Dahian Santos

16. Adrian Pinto

17. Manual Beltre

18. Addison Barger

19. Trent Palmer

20. Otto Lopez

21. Tanner Morris

22. Irv Carter

23. Samad Taylor

24. Adrian Hernandez

25. CJ Van Eyk

26. Kendry Rojas

27. Yhoangel Aponte

28. Luis Garcia

29. Estiven Machado

30. Dasan Brown

 

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Yosver Zulueta, RHP (Moved from unranked to No. 5)

 

The last time we updated our Top 30 lists, Zulueta had made just a few appearances with Low-A Dunedin. Since then he’s had major helium around the industry as a legitimate pitching prospect. Now with Double-A New Hampshire, Zulueta has risen three rungs up the minor league ladder in his first healthy season. On the mound, "Zulu" is electric with a fastball that sits 97-98 mph, touching triple digits with late life, and two average or better secondary pitches. His slider may be his best pitch, sitting mid 80s with sweep and depth. Zulueta will throw all three of his pitches, including a high-80s changeup with heavy arm-side run, for strikes and will mix up his sequencing from at-bat to at-bat.

 

Spencer Horwitz, 1B/OF (Moved from No. 17 to No. 11)

 

A bat-first player who's done nothing but hit over the last two seasons, Horwitz has a strong balance of skills at the plate. He shows excellent plate discipline, above-average bat-to-ball skills and above-average game power from the left side of the plate. Promoted to Triple-A on July 5, Horwitz is on the 40-man roster and just a call away from the major leagues. He’s not your prototypical first baseman but his ability to make contact, get on base and do damage is hard to question. He has a chance to be a second division regular.

 

Gabriel Martinez, OF (Moved from No. 30 to No. 12)

 

One of the more underrated hitters in the Blue Jays system, Martinez may be the position player that’s made the biggest jump in 2022. A strong combination of bat-to-ball skills, power and barrel control make Martinez a name opposing evaluators are smitten with. It’s a bat-first profile as Martinez is likely a corner outfielder long term, but it’s a pristine swing with a knack for finding the barrel. Martinez is still very aggressive but rarely strikes out due to his ability to get the bat on the ball. He projects to be a potential everyday regular in the corner outfield with the ability to hit for power while limiting strikeouts.

 

Nick Frasso, RHP (Moved from unranked to No. 13)

 

One of the best athletes in the Blue Jays system, Frasso returned from Tommy John surgery in under 12 months and was back pitching in the Florida State League by mid-May. He made seven stellar appearances for Dunedin, striking out 42 over 25.2 innings while allowing just two earned runs. Frasso sits upper 90s on his four-seam fastball and generates whiffs on both his low-to-mid-80s slider and his changeup. He’s been limited to four innings per appearance but should continue to build up following his early July promotion to Vancouver.

 

Max Castillo, RHP (Moved from unranked to No. 14)

 

An under-the-radar breakout prospect from the early part of the season who's risen all the way to the major leagues, Castillo shows excellent feel for his three-pitch mix and the ability to miss bats with his fastball and slider combination. Castillo doesn’t have tremendous power or movement on his arsenal. He does show the ability to consistently execute his three pitches to their intended zones and can drive both groundballs with his changeup or miss bats with his fastball and slider. Now handling a swingman role for the Blue Jays, many evaluators feel Castillo is a starting pitcher long term.

[Benito]

Hmm. Groshans over Orelvis?

[Krylian]

Top 30 Midseason Update:

 

1. Gabriel Moreno

2. Ricky Tiedemann

3. Jordan Groshans

4. Orelvis Martinez

5. Yosver Zulueta

6. Nate Pearson

7. Sem Robberse

8. Hayden Juenger

9. Leo Jimenez

10. Luis Meza

11. Spencer Horwitz

12. Gabriel Martinez

13. Nick Frasso

14. Maximo Castillo

15. Dahian Santos

16. Adrian Pinto

17. Manual Beltre

18. Addison Barger

19. Trent Palmer

20. Otto Lopez

21. Tanner Morris

22. Irv Carter

23. Samad Taylor

24. Adrian Hernandez

25. CJ Van Eyk

26. Kendry Rojas

27. Yhoangel Aponte

28. Luis Garcia

29. Estiven Machado

30. Dasan Brown

 

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Yosver Zulueta, RHP (Moved from unranked to No. 5)

 

The last time we updated our Top 30 lists, Zulueta had made just a few appearances with Low-A Dunedin. Since then he’s had major helium around the industry as a legitimate pitching prospect. Now with Double-A New Hampshire, Zulueta has risen three rungs up the minor league ladder in his first healthy season. On the mound, "Zulu" is electric with a fastball that sits 97-98 mph, touching triple digits with late life, and two average or better secondary pitches. His slider may be his best pitch, sitting mid 80s with sweep and depth. Zulueta will throw all three of his pitches, including a high-80s changeup with heavy arm-side run, for strikes and will mix up his sequencing from at-bat to at-bat.

 

Spencer Horwitz, 1B/OF (Moved from No. 17 to No. 11)

 

A bat-first player who's done nothing but hit over the last two seasons, Horwitz has a strong balance of skills at the plate. He shows excellent plate discipline, above-average bat-to-ball skills and above-average game power from the left side of the plate. Promoted to Triple-A on July 5, Horwitz is on the 40-man roster and just a call away from the major leagues. He’s not your prototypical first baseman but his ability to make contact, get on base and do damage is hard to question. He has a chance to be a second division regular.

 

Gabriel Martinez, OF (Moved from No. 30 to No. 12)

 

One of the more underrated hitters in the Blue Jays system, Martinez may be the position player that’s made the biggest jump in 2022. A strong combination of bat-to-ball skills, power and barrel control make Martinez a name opposing evaluators are smitten with. It’s a bat-first profile as Martinez is likely a corner outfielder long term, but it’s a pristine swing with a knack for finding the barrel. Martinez is still very aggressive but rarely strikes out due to his ability to get the bat on the ball. He projects to be a potential everyday regular in the corner outfield with the ability to hit for power while limiting strikeouts.

 

Nick Frasso, RHP (Moved from unranked to No. 13)

 

One of the best athletes in the Blue Jays system, Frasso returned from Tommy John surgery in under 12 months and was back pitching in the Florida State League by mid-May. He made seven stellar appearances for Dunedin, striking out 42 over 25.2 innings while allowing just two earned runs. Frasso sits upper 90s on his four-seam fastball and generates whiffs on both his low-to-mid-80s slider and his changeup. He’s been limited to four innings per appearance but should continue to build up following his early July promotion to Vancouver.

 

Max Castillo, RHP (Moved from unranked to No. 14)

 

An under-the-radar breakout prospect from the early part of the season who's risen all the way to the major leagues, Castillo shows excellent feel for his three-pitch mix and the ability to miss bats with his fastball and slider combination. Castillo doesn’t have tremendous power or movement on his arsenal. He does show the ability to consistently execute his three pitches to their intended zones and can drive both groundballs with his changeup or miss bats with his fastball and slider. Now handling a swingman role for the Blue Jays, many evaluators feel Castillo is a starting pitcher long term.

 

Groshans ahead of Orelvis?

[Solaxys]

Hmm. Groshans over Orelvis?

 

Groshans ahead of Orelvis?

 

Shrugs, that was the list.

I don't have access to BA so not sure if they have an explanation as to why - but that's what I got off someone who does have access to it.

 

Might just have to be that it would be easier for Groshans to develop power than Martinez to develop discipline.

Edited July 14, 2022 by Solaxys

[WryNGinger]

Not sure if this is the best place to post this but the play-by-play radio guy for the Vancouver Canadians is really good. A ton of great insight into all levels of the Jays system. Really does a great job of letting you know what is going on in the game and offers background on the players etc. Love listening to the Canadians games on the radio from Victoria.

[Spanky99]

BA dropped their mid-season top 100... could someone post the list, please? Thanks in advance.

 

Anyone?

[Spanky99]

Love this...

 

Gabriel Martinez, OF (Moved from No. 30 to No. 12)

 

One of the more underrated hitters in the Blue Jays system, Martinez may be the position player that’s made the biggest jump in 2022. A strong combination of bat-to-ball skills, power and barrel control make Martinez a name opposing evaluators are smitten with. It’s a bat-first profile as Martinez is likely a corner outfielder long term, but it’s a pristine swing with a knack for finding the barrel. Martinez is still very aggressive but rarely strikes out due to his ability to get the bat on the ball. He projects to be a potential everyday regular in the corner outfield with the ability to hit for power while limiting strikeouts.

[Stangstag]

Love this...

 

Gabriel Moreno

Gabriel Martinez

Orelvis Martinez

 

The holy trinity

[Laika]

Gabriel Moreno

Gabriel Martinez

Orelvis Martinez

 

The holy trinity

 

lmao make this a t shirt

 

venn diagram would work nice

[Dagagad]

Pardinho got 6 whiffs and 3 strikeouts in 2 innings of work last night. But only got up to 92.7mph.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Gabriel Moreno

Gabriel Martinez

Orelvis Martinez

 

The holy trinity

 

Just need a new prospect named Orelvis Moreno