Laika Community Moderator Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 Forgive me if it seems like I’m throwing cold water on all your Moreno induced erections, but let’s keep in mind he has all of 145 PA at AA, and 10 at AAA. His arrival is likely not imminent, barring some drastic change with the CBA regarding players initial years of control. Yes, I think we will see Moreno next season, but I highly doubt it will be early in the season. Up by May. Book it.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 Up by May. Book it. I say late June or early July, depending on potential CBA changes.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 Forgive me if it seems like I’m throwing cold water on all your Moreno induced erections, but let’s keep in mind he has all of 145 PA at AA, and 10 at AAA. His arrival is likely not imminent, barring some drastic change with the CBA regarding players initial years of control. Yes, I think we will see Moreno next season, but I highly doubt it will be early in the season. I say late June or early July, depending on potential CBA changes. Dafuq??? That's still early mate, if he continues to rake he'll be getting his fair share of PA. Everyone needs to temper expectations, though. See what Atkins plan is this winter.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 Dafuq??? That's still early mate, if he continues to rake he'll be getting his fair share of PA. Everyone needs to temper expectations, though. See what Atkins plan is this winter. Just saying I don't expect him to break camp as the starting 3rd baseman or the starting catcher. As a catcher he would still need quite a few reps at AAA and as a 3B he has what... a few innings out there? Love the expectations and the hype but the kid still has to get some upper level minors experience at both positions before you throw him in a pennant chasing season.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 Just saying I don't expect him to break camp as the starting 3rd baseman or the starting catcher. As a catcher he would still need quite a few reps at AAA and as a 3B he has what... a few innings out there? Love the expectations and the hype but the kid still has to get some upper level minors experience at both positions before you throw him in a pennant chasing season. Sure, I don't think he's breaking camp, I don't think anyone else does. Yet, he's being aggressively moved, including the AFL, he might get assigned to the DR this winter, but I find that unlikely. We'll see.
Virgil_Hiltz Verified Member Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 Sure, I don't think he's breaking camp, I don't think anyone else does. Yet, he's being aggressively moved, including the AFL, he might get assigned to the DR this winter, but I find that unlikely. We'll see. Exactly, I just think we as fans are finally excited to have a fruitful farm system and can't wait to see some of these young pups!...and btw...nothing wrong with some excitement!
jerb Verified Member Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 Scott Mitchell @ScottyMitchTSN First batter of the game slices one down the 3B line, Gabriel Moreno backhands and unleashes a strong throw that just missed getting runner at 1B by a step. A murmur from the scouts that you can sum up as “hmm not bad, not bad at all.” #BlueJays
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 Scott Mitchell @ScottyMitchTSN First batter of the game slices one down the 3B line, Gabriel Moreno backhands and unleashes a strong throw that just missed getting runner at 1B by a step. A murmur from the scouts that you can sum up as “hmm not bad, not bad at all.” #BlueJays Donovan 19 SB in MiLB this year, probably 55 to 60 speed. Tough out for anyone on a hit down the 3B line.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2021 Posted November 18, 2021 Quick question in regards to the afl. Does the blue jays determine where he plays or not?
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2021 Posted November 18, 2021 Quick question in regards to the afl. Does the blue jays determine where he plays or not? Yes, by request.
jerb Verified Member Posted November 19, 2021 Posted November 19, 2021 Mitch Bannon @MitchBannon The Arizona Fall League’s Mesa Solar Sox (home to the #BlueJays prospects) will play in the AFL Championship game tomorrow—Saturday the 20th. The game will be televised at 7pm EST on MLB Network. Perhaps one final 2021 look at Moreno, Spraker, Horwitz and company....
jerb Verified Member Posted November 19, 2021 Posted November 19, 2021 Bernie Pleskoff @BerniePleskoff Double puts @BlueJays C Gabriel Moreno at .329 for the season. He has been outstanding. Gap hitter with very good plate discipline and a measured swing. I love his upside for #BlueJays.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted November 19, 2021 Posted November 19, 2021 Bernie Pleskoff @BerniePleskoff Double puts @BlueJays C Gabriel Moreno at .329 for the season. He has been outstanding. Gap hitter with very good plate discipline and a measured swing. I love his upside for #BlueJays. Fappity fap FAP
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2021 Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) Anderson is a tire fire at this point, so that's just a "throw s*** at the wall and see if it sticks" move. Danner was a C converted to pitcher who showed some pretty decent results in Vancouver. Reliever upside. I know s*** about Francis. Jimenez is an all glove, no power IF from Low A. More walks than Ks though as a 20 year old. Logue is still a starter, had a decent year at AAA, likely gets a chance to show in spring training for a shot at whatever role is left by that time. Likely stays in AAA as depth until he's needed. Samad Taylor not protected, ditto Spraker. Edited November 19, 2021 by John_Havok
Ray Verified Member Posted November 19, 2021 Posted November 19, 2021 Joey Murray also not protected. Albeit that may be because he’s not healthy. Hasn’t played all year.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2021 Posted November 19, 2021 Seems odd they would add Leo and not Samad.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 Very surprised that Samad Taylor was not protected.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 Yes it seems a guarantee that Samad will be picked, but that's certainly not true for Leo. But Shatkins knows best.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 Not gonna lie, I'm not ecstatic about Samad Taylor being exposed. I wanted him as the utility guy on the MLB roster next year. I'm assuming the Jays believe he won't get picked up because other teams might not want to roster an AA player on their 26 all season long but I still think he gets poached.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 Not gonna lie, I'm not ecstatic about Samad Taylor being exposed. I wanted him as the utility guy on the MLB roster next year. I'm assuming the Jays believe he won't get picked up because other teams might not want to roster an AA player on their 26 all season long but I still think he gets poached. I believe he'll be gone also, Miguel Hiraldo might get taken too.
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 Hiraldo? He was a wRC+ 100 in low A I don't think anyone is going to take him and play him in MLB next season are they?
Sorrow Verified Member Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 I don't think anyone is taking Samad. 400 BABIP, 30% k-rate last year. How does that translate at all?
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 When is the rule 5 draft?
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 I don't think anyone is taking Samad. 400 BABIP, 30% k-rate last year. How does that translate at all? He probably gets taken, but is also probably returned like 90% of players are. The one big mistake we made was Romano in 2018. Reading old articles before the draft they even highlighted Romano as a guy who could potential be transitioned to the bullpen where he might be a decent reliever. Texas, thankfully returned him at the end of training camp!
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 He probably gets taken, but is also probably returned like 90% of players are. The one big mistake we made was Romano in 2018. Reading old articles before the draft they even highlighted Romano as a guy who could potential be transitioned to the bullpen where he might be a decent reliever. Texas, thankfully returned him at the end of training camp! I don't have any actual information on this, but it really seems like position players in the rule 5 draft rarely stick around, at least lately. It seems to mostly be about teams plucking pitchers they can put into the pen.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 I don't have any actual information on this, but it really seems like position players in the rule 5 draft rarely stick around, at least lately. It seems to mostly be about teams plucking pitchers they can put into the pen. Akil Baddoo might be the only recent example of a position player not being returned.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 George Bell was a rule 5 pick.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 George Bell was a rule 5 pick. So was Roberto Clemente. Recent examples are few and far between for position players though.
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