Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[spats]

2019 34th-rd pick Luis Quinones continues to impress in Vancouver. Yeah, he's 22, but he's been fantastic so far. He might be worth keeping an eye on to see if he can keep this going as he levels up.

 

28 IP

11 H

4 ER

14 BB

43 K

 

This season combined stats from Bluefield and Vancouver.

34 IP

6 Er

16 BB

53 k

.107 Ave

.82 whip

 

Pretty impressive numbers. Does anyone have a scouting report on him? Would like to know how he rates out on pitches.

[Orgfiller]

2019 34th-rd pick Luis Quinones continues to impress in Vancouver. Yeah, he's 22, but he's been fantastic so far. He might be worth keeping an eye on to see if he can keep this going as he levels up.

 

28 IP

11 H

4 ER

14 BB

43 K

 

I was gonna ask where you got the extra strikeouts from before going and checking myself that he had 4 IP, 9 K to 1 BB performance today, only allowing a run on 3 hits. Good stuff.

[Orgfiller]

This season combined stats from Bluefield and Vancouver.

34 IP

6 Er

16 BB

53 k

.107 Ave

.82 whip

 

Pretty impressive numbers. Does anyone have a scouting report on him? Would like to know how he rates out on pitches.

 

I have a feeling you're unlikely to find a scouting report on a 34th rounder, you'll probably have to wait until he makes his way to Lansing or even Dunedin and he gains a little bit of hype from his performance.

[P2F]

This is all I could find.

[jays4life19]

Luis Quinones doesn’t have much standout stuff to speak of, but has a four-pitch mix with a fringe-average fastball in the low-90s and similarly fringe secondary offerings—but he can locate his entire arsenal for strikes consistently. There’s not a ton of upside with Quinones outside of a durable strikethrower who can hold innings and force the opposition to beat him.

[Brownie19]

What do we think Nick Madrigal will be? The 22 year old has gone from A+ to AA to AAA now. wRC+ of 150 in AA (180 PA's), but otherwise it's always been like 105-115.

 

Great contact hitter, but almost no power at all. Good defense, good speed.

 

Anyone have a good comp? Would you be happy if the Jays got a player like this with the 4th overall pick?

[Abomination]

What do we think Nick Madrigal will be? The 22 year old has gone from A+ to AA to AAA now. wRC+ of 150 in AA (180 PA's), but otherwise it's always been like 105-115.

 

Great contact hitter, but almost no power at all. Good defense, good speed.

 

Anyone have a good comp? Would you be happy if the Jays got a player like this with the 4th overall pick?

 

Sign me up. Walks a good amount, never strikes out, plays good defense, and can steal a base. He's probably going to be a high average, high OBP guy. He'd be an ideal guy to stick in front of Bichette and Vladdy.

 

His bat will probably profile similar to Kinsler or Pedroia, but I'm not sure his defense will be quite on that level.

[spats]

This is all I could find.

 

I did some research myself and found a report on the Jays picks this year. Really interesting stats..He was a reliever in college posting a 1.57 ERA and his stats

 

53k,16BB in 28 and 2/3 innings are almost identical to this years combined totals. The report was dated June ,2019.

[Laika]

What do we think Nick Madrigal will be? The 22 year old has gone from A+ to AA to AAA now. wRC+ of 150 in AA (180 PA's), but otherwise it's always been like 105-115.

 

Great contact hitter, but almost no power at all. Good defense, good speed.

 

Anyone have a good comp? Would you be happy if the Jays got a player like this with the 4th overall pick?

 

David Eckstein

[THANOS]

I was at the game today and was concerned initially. He gave up 2 loud outs deep to centre that were run down by Davis and the HR and single in the first 3 innings while consistently falling behind in the count. He also had no strikeouts thru 3 but righted the ship and ended up going 6 innings with 7 K's and only giving up the 2 hits. His velocity went up as the game progressed and was sitting 98/99 in the last few innings. I guess my expectations were a little high for him after watching Nate plow thru batters in Dunedin.

 

Thanks for the report Spats! You always have great reads and details on the players you get to see.

 

So this means his line in the last innings was this:

 

3IP, 0H, 0BB, 7K

 

That's incredible!

[Brownie19]

Sign me up. Walks a good amount, never strikes out, plays good defense, and can steal a base. He's probably going to be a high average, high OBP guy. He'd be an ideal guy to stick in front of Bichette and Vladdy.

 

His bat will probably profile similar to Kinsler or Pedroia, but I'm not sure his defense will be quite on that level.

 

Isn't he a SS? Wouldn't his defense be well above Pedroia's?

 

Also - without any power, won't his BB% drop significantly in the majors?

[jaysguy44]

Orelvis Martinez with another home run, in his first AB of the day.

[Orgfiller]

Isn't he a SS? Wouldn't his defense be well above Pedroia's?

 

Also - without any power, won't his BB% drop significantly in the majors?

 

He's played all of 6 minor league innings at SS so I wouldn't say he is. Prime Pedroia was a monster defensively so I'd put extreme reservations on Madrigal being as good as that, although he'll probably need to be along with adding a bunch of value on the bases if he's going to be a valuable player whose ISO is close to .100.

 

I don't really see the Kinsler comp, he showed way more power in his best seasons as evidenced by a career ISO of .170, and for the most part hasn't been a really high average player. Pedroia is a better comp offensively although again, he'll really need to hit his power ceiling to come close to being that good.

[Daniel Labude]

Orelvis Martinez with another home run, in his first AB of the day.

 

5 now in his last 8 games...he has caught fire

[Krylian]

5 now in his last 8 games...he has caught fire

 

OPS now .901

[Laika]

5 now in his last 8 games...he has caught fire

 

Just to put this in context, the league leader in 2018 had 8 HR in 47 games. There aren't a lot of homers down there.

 

5 dingers in 8 GCL games is bonkers.

[Terminator]

At age 17 too! He looks really legit so far

[Laika]

Juan Soto 2016 GCL age 17

.361/.410/.550; 45 games; 5 HR; 25 K's and 14 BB.

 

Orelvis Martinez 2019 GCL age 17

.275/.352/.549; 40 games; 7 HR; 29 K's and 14 BB.

 

Not quite as hitterish as Juan the God but almost as impressive.

[Orgfiller]

Juan Soto 2016 GCL age 17

.361/.410/.550; 45 games; 5 HR; 25 K's and 14 BB.

 

Orelvis Martinez 2019 GCL age 17

.275/.352/.549; 40 games; 7 HR; 29 K's and 14 BB.

 

Not quite as hitterish as Juan the God but almost as impressive.

 

Man Juan Soto was just born to hit, what a f***ing stud. It has to be recognized up though that Orelvis is playing 2/3 of his games at SS thus far.

[Brownie19]

He's played all of 6 minor league innings at SS so I wouldn't say he is. Prime Pedroia was a monster defensively so I'd put extreme reservations on Madrigal being as good as that, although he'll probably need to be along with adding a bunch of value on the bases if he's going to be a valuable player whose ISO is close to .100.

 

I don't really see the Kinsler comp, he showed way more power in his best seasons as evidenced by a career ISO of .170, and for the most part hasn't been a really high average player. Pedroia is a better comp offensively although again, he'll really need to hit his power ceiling to come close to being that good.

 

All good points. Maybe David Fletcher is a comp?

[THANOS]

Juan Soto 2016 GCL age 17

.361/.410/.550; 45 games; 5 HR; 25 K's and 14 BB.

 

Orelvis Martinez 2019 GCL age 17

.275/.352/.549; 40 games; 7 HR; 29 K's and 14 BB.

 

Not quite as hitterish as Juan the God but almost as impressive.

 

Man Juan Soto was just born to hit, what a f***ing stud. It has to be recognized up though that Orelvis is playing 2/3 of his games at SS thus far.

 

Seeing that comp there is something else. Orelvis could be really good.

 

There's still 4 games left, so he has time to add to those numbers as well. A few more HRs and their OPS' may be more similar.

[Orgfiller]

All good points. Maybe David Fletcher is a comp?

 

Very good comp. Scouts will probably argue that Madrigal has a (much) better hit tool, something like a 55 for Fletcher vs. a 70 for Madrigal, better speed as well, and although his defense might be solid Fletcher has elite positional flexibility to the point where it's probably a wash if not being in the latter's favour.

[Terminator]

Fangraphs has done a final update to their prospect list for the year:

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/one-last-top-100-prospects-shuffle/

[Spanky99]

Fangraphs has done a final update to their prospect list for the year:

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/one-last-top-100-prospects-shuffle/

 

Thanks, he mentioned in his chat it was coming soon, didn't expect it this quickly. Hah, it came out the same day as his chat

 

Bichette - 4

Pearson - 37

Groshans - 89

 

Just missed top 114

 

Manoah

Woods-Richardson

[Orgfiller]

Fangraphs has done a final update to their prospect list for the year:

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/one-last-top-100-prospects-shuffle/

 

People are tearing them to shreds in the comments section for their conservative stance on not bumping up guys like Luis Robert, Gavin Lux, Dylan Carlson despite continued elite performance this season at the highest levels of the minors. Meanwhile still no mention of SWR, the youngest pitcher in A+ who has been dominating all year as well.

[Laika]

People are tearing them to shreds in the comments section for their conservative stance on not bumping up guys like Luis Robert, Gavin Lux, Dylan Carlson despite continued elite performance this season at the highest levels of the minors. Meanwhile still no mention of SWR, the youngest pitcher in A+ who has been dominating all year as well.

 

Fangraphs takes a pretty big exposure risk with doing the Board. The amount of information they endeavor to display can only serve, at times, to highlight the fact that they just do not have the manpower to truly verify all of that information. It's inevitable that they will miss grades, screw up ETAs, rank certain players horribly wrong.

 

That's not to say there is anything wrong with what they are doing! The reverse is perhaps even more annoying - the all text top 100 lists that don't even attempt to describe the tools of the players, so the list contains zero granular data other than the order of the prospects. That's even worse.

[Spanky99]

People are tearing them to shreds in the comments section for their conservative stance on not bumping up guys like Luis Robert, Gavin Lux, Dylan Carlson despite continued elite performance this season at the highest levels of the minors. Meanwhile still no mention of SWR, the youngest pitcher in A+ who has been dominating all year as well.

 

They mentioned him with the moving up arrow, moved him up to a 45+, but I don't think the report is updated, they're always very conservative, nothing surprises me anymore.

 

Full Report

 

An athletic, outwardly competitive two-way hied release point makes it hard for him to work his fastball east and west, and several teams had him evaluated as a future reliever before the draft high schooler, Woods Richardson would also have been a prospect as a power-hitting third baseman were he not so good on the mound. His vertically orientaux they saw a lack of fastball command. But this vertical release also enables him to effectively change hitters' eye level by pairing fastballs up with breaking balls down, and he has a plus breaking ball. Woods Richardson works so quickly that it often makes hitters uncomfortable, though scouts love it. He's also shown some nascent changeup feel, but it will be hard to turn the cambio over consistently from his arm slot. Though he was one of the 2018 draft's youngest prospects, his frame is pretty mature, so we're not rounding up on the fastball even though he's still a teenager. His reasonable floor is that of a high-leverage or multi-inning reliever (a role that would seem to suit his fiery on-mound presence), but if a third impact pitch develops he could be a mid-rotation starter.

[keggy]

What do we think Nick Madrigal will be? The 22 year old has gone from A+ to AA to AAA now. wRC+ of 150 in AA (180 PA's), but otherwise it's always been like 105-115.

 

Great contact hitter, but almost no power at all. Good defense, good speed.

 

Anyone have a good comp? Would you be happy if the Jays got a player like this with the 4th overall pick?

 

Placido Polanco

[Jimcanuck]

18 yr old J-Rod has 21 hits in his first 37 A+ at bats.

[Terminator]

Fangraphs had a small write up on Hiraldo. https://fantasy.fangraphs.com/short-season-prospects-rising-up/

 

Miguel Hiraldo, SS/2B, Blue Jays: Hiraldo sped up his learning curve more quickly than I expected in 2019. He’s one of the top hitters in the Appalachian League and has shown above-average power while controlling the strike zone surprisingly well. At 18, and often three years younger his opponents, the shortstop is fifth in the league in batting average at .308 (The only player under 21 years old). He’s 11th in the league in OPS and just one of two in the Top 11 that didn’t attend college. Despite the power he’s shown, Hiraldo has a strikeout rate of just 14% and he’s displayed some base-running ability with 11 steals in 14 tries. He has some work to do on the defensive side of the ball after making nine errors in 20 games at shortstop and a handful more at second base. He will likely move to third base down the road due to his mature frame.