Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Yeah its quite remarkable. I think the Dodgers are the only team that does it across all minor league levels. But its funny that teams will spend $3-4 Million on a s***** relief pitcher yet won't pay for good food to prospects they value in the tens of Millions. Its like buying a Ferarri and putting the shittiest fuel in the gas tank. I believe the Jays have done this.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 I believe the Jays have done this. Ehhh I heard Shapiro said that they planned to do it but seems to still be the same. PBJ!
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Ehhh I heard Shapiro said that they planned to do it but seems to still be the same. PBJ! Well AA talked about this and said he was increasing the per diem so that players would better feed themselves. Maybe he just went at it wrong?
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Well AA talked about this and said he was increasing the per diem so that players would better feed themselves. Maybe he just went at it wrong? Giving kids more money to eat seems like a good start, but when was the last time a 16-22 year old was capable of making the kind of food choices that would be required of someone trying to become a world class athlete? Sure there's all kinds of info on the internet, but you have to be mentally mature enough to want to do it, which these kids are not for the most part.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Giving kids more money to eat seems like a good start, but when was the last time a 16-22 year old was capable of making the kind of food choices that would be required of someone trying to become a world class athlete? Sure there's all kinds of info on the internet, but you have to be mentally mature enough to want to do it, which these kids are not for the most part. I think millennials eat significantly better than most generations. Avocado toast for days. Seriously though - most of them realize how important it is for them to hit the gym and be in top shape if they are going to advance to the show. I don't think it's that much of a stretch to give them some cash for some better food (although some will just go buy more drugs with it).
metafour Verified Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Can we interject some personal responsibility here? If your lifelong goal is to become a professional athlete, and you've so far succeeded enough to become a PROFESSIONAL minor league player, the idea that you don't have the resources or "knowledge" to know that you can't eat chocolate bars and chips all day is a total joke. Do you need to wipe their bottoms after they've gone to the bathroom as well? If you can't spent half a day learning about nutrition when your career of choice is entirely athletic, then just give the f*** up.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Can we interject some personal responsibility here? If your lifelong goal is to become a professional athlete, and you've so far succeeded enough to become a PROFESSIONAL minor league player, the idea that you don't have the resources or "knowledge" to know that you can't eat chocolate bars and chips all day is a total joke. Do you need to wipe their bottoms after they've gone to the bathroom as well? If you can't spent half a day learning about nutrition when your career of choice is entirely athletic, then just give the f*** up. The struggle is real for most international FA's. There were some good stories posted here a while back on the matter illustrating challenging it is for 17-18 year old kids who move to a new country, can't speak English and have no idea where, or how to get proper food. It's a lot more complicated when it comes to North American draftees. It's like saying don't give people welfare - get out and get a job you bum. Although there is some logic with it - history has proven this approach isn't overly effective. Are minor league players required to work out together in the gym? I would assume they are on a program for that?
nmrch Verified Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 I don't understand where "personal responsibility" even comes up when trying to help assets(prospects) of a team achieve better results. Its irrelevant if these kids don't care or don't want to care about things like nutrition, its still upto to the team to educate them and try to help them, its simple economics.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Why instead of giving them more $ you just have them eat at the ballpark where you can control portion sizes and the type of food? These players aren't going to be going to the grocery stores and spending all that time cooking. Its like giving them $ to go find a trainer outside the org. Sure they could do it but its better to have your own supervision so you can control everything. Even the top prospects eat mostly at Chipotle and Steak n Shake.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 I don't understand where "personal responsibility" even comes up when trying to help assets(prospects) of a team achieve better results. Its irrelevant if these kids don't care or don't want to care about things like nutrition, its still upto to the team to educate them and try to help them, its simple economics. The idea that teams would invest in salaries, bonus money, coaching personnel and other costs and then just throw up their arms if the prospect isn't taking care of himself and say: "well it's a matter of personal responsibility" is ludicrous. It's all about getting the best return on investment. If that means wiping their ass, then you wipe their damn ass.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 The idea that teams would invest in salaries, bonus money, coaching personnel and other costs and then just throw up their arms if the prospect isn't taking care of himself and say: "well it's a matter of personal responsibility" is ludicrous. It's all about getting the best return on investment. If that means wiping their ass, then you wipe their damn ass. 100% agree.
Ray Verified Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Ryan Noda won't stop hitting. Last night he went 2/3 with 2 walks. Slashing .508/.586/.831 for the season with 3 HR, 6 doubles, and 2 triples. 14 strikeouts vs. 11 walks too. Not entirely a small sample size anymore either. This is over 17 games and 70 PA.
bendera3 Verified Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 The struggle is real for most international FA's. There were some good stories posted here a while back on the matter illustrating challenging it is for 17-18 year old kids who move to a new country, can't speak English and have no idea where, or how to get proper food. It's a lot more complicated when it comes to North American draftees. It's like saying don't give people welfare - get out and get a job you bum. Although there is some logic with it - history has proven this approach isn't overly effective. Are minor league players required to work out together in the gym? I would assume they are on a program for that? Also, I think many on here are thinking about the picks that sign huge bonuses but the majority of minor leaguers make peanuts until they make it to AA. Make healthy meals available in the clubhouse so you get maximum return on your investment (pick and salary).
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Ryan Noda won't stop hitting. Last night he went 2/3 with 2 walks. Slashing .508/.586/.831 for the season with 3 HR, 6 doubles, and 2 triples. 14 strikeouts vs. 11 walks too. Not entirely a small sample size anymore either. This is over 17 games and 70 PA. It's unfortunate he got stuck at a low level for his age and experience, but that happens alot after the draft for guys in every system. He should probably be at least be playing in Lansing but the rosters are pretty full this time of year. Natural attrition throughout the org will sort it out over time Dude has an .831 slugging %..... From 2080 sports prior to the draft: Ryan Noda, 1B, Univ. of Cincinnati | 2017 Draft Class Ht/Wt: 6’3” / 217 B/T: L/L Age (as of 2017 MLB Draft): 21y 2m In a draft class that is short on impact college position players, Cincinnati first basemen Ryan Noda has a profile that combines raw power, strike-zone awareness, and above-average defense that could elevate him into the range of an early- to-mid-Day Two selection. Noda has been a stalemate in the Bearcats lineup, over the past two seasons, starting 112 games. He turned heads at the Cape Cod League last summer where he hit five home runs while leading the circuit with 27 walks. Now a junior, Noda stumbled out of the gate, hitting just .143 through the season’s first 15 games, but he hit his stride shortly after, and is now slashing .279/.436/.558 while leading the Bearcats with six home runs and 22 walks. Noda has an athletic frame with room to add weight as he matures. Eschewing batting gloves, Noda starts with his hands low in a slightly open stance before closing up with his stride and unleashing a powerful uppercut swing. He wraps the barrel around his head just slightly, which adds some length to the swing, which he mitigates with above-average bat speed. The wrap could be a contributing factor in contact issues. While Noda has aforementioned strike-zone awareness, there’s also some swing and miss to his game. For his career at Cincinnati, Noda has struck out in 26.4% of his plate appearances. Noda has logged time in the outfield early in his collegiate career and over the course of the summer, he profiles best as a first basemen where his soft hands and strong, accurate arm make him an above-average defender. On a recent mid-week game at Ohio State, Noda went 1-5 for with a double and a strikeout. – Burke Granger
Ray Verified Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 It's unfortunate he got stuck at a low level for his age and experience, but that happens alot after the draft for guys in every system. He should probably be at least be playing in Lansing but the rosters are pretty full this time of year. Natural attrition throughout the org will sort it out over time Dude has an .831 slugging %..... From 2080 sports prior to the draft: Ryan Noda, 1B, Univ. of Cincinnati | 2017 Draft Class Ht/Wt: 6’3” / 217 B/T: L/L Age (as of 2017 MLB Draft): 21y 2m In a draft class that is short on impact college position players, Cincinnati first basemen Ryan Noda has a profile that combines raw power, strike-zone awareness, and above-average defense that could elevate him into the range of an early- to-mid-Day Two selection. Noda has been a stalemate in the Bearcats lineup, over the past two seasons, starting 112 games. He turned heads at the Cape Cod League last summer where he hit five home runs while leading the circuit with 27 walks. Now a junior, Noda stumbled out of the gate, hitting just .143 through the season’s first 15 games, but he hit his stride shortly after, and is now slashing .279/.436/.558 while leading the Bearcats with six home runs and 22 walks. Noda has an athletic frame with room to add weight as he matures. Eschewing batting gloves, Noda starts with his hands low in a slightly open stance before closing up with his stride and unleashing a powerful uppercut swing. He wraps the barrel around his head just slightly, which adds some length to the swing, which he mitigates with above-average bat speed. The wrap could be a contributing factor in contact issues. While Noda has aforementioned strike-zone awareness, there’s also some swing and miss to his game. For his career at Cincinnati, Noda has struck out in 26.4% of his plate appearances. Noda has logged time in the outfield early in his collegiate career and over the course of the summer, he profiles best as a first basemen where his soft hands and strong, accurate arm make him an above-average defender. On a recent mid-week game at Ohio State, Noda went 1-5 for with a double and a strikeout. – Burke Granger Less than impressive numbers in college. Although he has always been good at taking walks which is encouraging. Hopefully he gets moved up soon.
Ray Verified Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Logan Warmoth just hit his first professional HR
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Logan Warmoth just hit his first professional HR Go WarMoth!
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Go WarMoth! He'll shoot you in the face and then chew a hole through your favourite shirt.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 He'll shoot you in the face and then chew a hole through your favourite shirt. Man, what a minor inconvenience!
metafour Verified Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Yeltsin Gudino 3 for 3 with a double and a walk. Now pushes his line up to .270/.342/.323. Still more work to be done, but his year-to-year improvement is very evident. Apparently he's been hitting .338 since the MWL midway point.
starfield Verified Member Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 The discussion on nutrition is a really good one I know James Johnson from Miami Heat had a re-awakening in his career and he credits to the Miami Heat training staff and nutrition they emphasized. I know Zach Lowe said on his podcast that multiple teams have reached out to the Heat to discuss nutrition. Im pretty confident that nutrition is not emphasized in organizations as we think. And should definitely be a point of emphasis
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2017 Author Posted July 11, 2017 The discussion on nutrition is a really good one I know James Johnson from Miami Heat had a re-awakening in his career and he credits to the Miami Heat training staff and nutrition they emphasized. I know Zach Lowe said on his podcast that multiple teams have reached out to the Heat to discuss nutrition. Im pretty confident that nutrition is not emphasized in organizations as we think. And should definitely be a point of emphasis You know what they say about common sense...it isn't always common.
Slade Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Bichette with an 0-4 1BB 2K in his Dunedin debut.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Zachary Jackson, RHP, Toronto Blue Jays (High-A Dunedin) Seen in a 1 IP relief app on 6/23, as well as a 1/3IP outing in 6/29. Acting as closer for ballclub. Extra-large frame and body, intimidating presence on the mound, lacks remaining projection. Pitches from the stretch only; long, deep arm action with a plunge, above-average arm speed, overhand. High front shoulder, extends glove-side, large leg lift, has a head whack. FB 93-94 (t95), heavy offering, often left up, but has good sink when located at bottom of the zone, will be effectively wild, not a spotter, but can locate in parts of the plate. CB 86-87, 12/6 shape with extreme hard downer action, quick and sharp, hitters struggle to see it out of hand and look foolish, just really inconsistent offering, doesn't throw it for strikes, more a s/m offering out of the zone. CH 86-87, almost SF like action, falls off table, late action, s/m offering. Really interesting arsenal featuring 3 above-average to plus offerings, doesn't have the strike throwing to start but would be a good late-inning bullpen arm, strong interest. Kirby Snead, LHP, Toronto Blue Jays (High-A Dunedin) Seen in a 1.1 IP relief app on 6/23. Large frame and build, lacks remaining projection. Pitches from the stretch only, compact arm action, chickenwings ball, average arm speed, slot in between low-three-quarters and side-arm. FB 89-90, fringe-average sink, controls well arm-side, struggles more so glove-side, will be an issue given lower slot and delivery. SL 78-80, sweeping action with good depth and break, comfortable throwing to LHH, can drop for strikes on the outer half v. RHH, future average offering. No CH thrown, looks to be a two-pitch pitcher. Fields position well and is athletic. See as a matchup LHR, would acquire.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Zachary Jackson, RHP, Toronto Blue Jays (High-A Dunedin) Seen in a 1 IP relief app on 6/23, as well as a 1/3IP outing in 6/29. Acting as closer for ballclub. Extra-large frame and body, intimidating presence on the mound, lacks remaining projection. Pitches from the stretch only; long, deep arm action with a plunge, above-average arm speed, overhand. High front shoulder, extends glove-side, large leg lift, has a head whack. FB 93-94 (t95), heavy offering, often left up, but has good sink when located at bottom of the zone, will be effectively wild, not a spotter, but can locate in parts of the plate. CB 86-87, 12/6 shape with extreme hard downer action, quick and sharp, hitters struggle to see it out of hand and look foolish, just really inconsistent offering, doesn't throw it for strikes, more a s/m offering out of the zone. CH 86-87, almost SF like action, falls off table, late action, s/m offering. Really interesting arsenal featuring 3 above-average to plus offerings, doesn't have the strike throwing to start but would be a good late-inning bullpen arm, strong interest. Kirby Snead, LHP, Toronto Blue Jays (High-A Dunedin) Seen in a 1.1 IP relief app on 6/23. Large frame and build, lacks remaining projection. Pitches from the stretch only, compact arm action, chickenwings ball, average arm speed, slot in between low-three-quarters and side-arm. FB 89-90, fringe-average sink, controls well arm-side, struggles more so glove-side, will be an issue given lower slot and delivery. SL 78-80, sweeping action with good depth and break, comfortable throwing to LHH, can drop for strikes on the outer half v. RHH, future average offering. No CH thrown, looks to be a two-pitch pitcher. Fields position well and is athletic. See as a matchup LHR, would acquire. How does a Dr. find time to scout? shakes head.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 How does a Dr. find time to scout? shakes head. My doctorate is in fantasy baseball.
Ray Verified Member Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Lourdes Gurriel promoted to AA Warmoth to Vancouver
bones10 Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Tebow is killing it since his promotion... 14 games 2 homeruns, .318 avg .412 obp adding up to 170 wrc+
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Joseph Reyes, 3B/1B, Toronto (Profile) Level: Rookie-level Age: 10 Org Rank: HM Top 100: NR Line: 3-for-5, 3B Notes Reyes is a very physical 19-year-old who, at 6-foot-3, 190 pounds, still has room for more weight. His hands are explosive, his lower half strong, and even though he projects to first base, the bat is very promising.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Pretty good numbers for a 10-year old, even in Rookie ball.
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