2015 Trade Deadline Targets Thread.

[reedjohnsonfan]

I completely understand if someone doesn't trust Strasburg to be healthy enough to be a star. But continuing to trade youth and control for 12 to 15 starts honestly doesn't make nearly as much sense as trading from a strength. A cost controlled ace (even for just a year and a half) is going to be tough to come by. Washington is the only team I can think of that's still in contention that desperately needs the 1B (or just offense in general) and has the depth to trade a cost controlled pitcher without effecting their team too much. It's a horrible PR move for both teams and gets the Jays into bed with Boras but it's close to making sense.

 

I understand your line of thinking but I just don't think it makes a lot of sense for either team since both teams are in win now mode and likely don't want to give up a piece of their core. Blockbuster deals between 2 contenders don't happen very often for that reason, but it's possible. For me it makes more sense to trade a lot for Hamels or come up with a package for Samardzija + Jones with every intention of making a big offer to Shark. Cueto is great and all but if the price is anywhere close to what it would cost for Hamels (I'm assuming talks start with Norris in both cases) we should be hesitant.

[RealAccountant]

The guy pitching tonight is the guy Jays should be going after.

[KIllerSloth]

The guy pitching tonight is the guy Jays should be going after.

 

Think their sox would trade him to us?

[Jimcanuck]

FFS Pompey will be more valuable than Reddick as soon as second half 2016

[Orgfiller]

FFS Pompey will be more valuable than Reddick as soon as second half 2016

 

And you know this how? Josh Reddick is a very good player at the MLB level, Pompey has not proven to be as such.

[Jimcanuck]

And you know this how? Josh Reddick is a very good player at the MLB level, Pompey has not proven to be as such.

 

I don't, it's an opinion. Every other post on here is an opinion.

 

FWIW, at the beginning of the season some here, including knowledgeable posters, pegged Pompey for 3 WAR. Reddick has eclipsed 3 WAR once in his career.

[Brownie19]

Adam Lind is 30% worse against lefties than Josh Reddick.

 

s*** x 1.3 still equals s***.

[Deadpool]

If it take Norris+ or Castro & Pompey for Reddick I would seriously look elsewhere. I'd move those guys, but it better be for an Ace like Hamels. Good god, the man is a left handed platoon bat. Career wRC+ of 84 vs. LHP, OPS of .664. For all intensive purposes, he's Adam Lind with some OF defense. Barf.

 

Really? Nobody?

[BigCecil]

If it take Norris+ or Castro & Pompey for Reddick I would seriously look elsewhere. I'd move those guys, but it better be for an Ace like Hamels. Good god, the man is a left handed platoon bat. Career wRC+ of 84 vs. LHP, OPS of .664. For all intensive purposes, he's Adam Lind with some OF defense. Barf.

 

After what have seen with the Jays this season, Im not in a position to under value good OF defense.

[Brownie19]

Really? Nobody?

 

As if my HS English teacher didn't catch this before now...wow, I'm duummm

[GD]

s*** x 1.3 still equals s***.

 

He's like Adam Lind, who can hit lefties at a useable rate, and play the outfield, so... he's nothing like Adam Lind?

[Brownie19]

He's like Adam Lind, who can hit lefties at a useable rate, and play the outfield, so... he's nothing like Adam Lind?

 

He's got a wRC+ of 34 this year vs. LHP. It was 55 last year. That's tuuurrible. Not useable.

 

 

I don't see any value in giving up our good assets like Castro, Pompey, Norris, etc. to add this guy. We need pitching.

[GD]

He's got a wRC+ of 34 this year vs. LHP. It was 55 last year. That's tuuurrible. Not useable.

 

I don't see any value in giving up our good assets like Castro, Pompey, Norris, etc. to add this guy. We need pitching.

 

You overestimate what a year and a half of platoon splits actually means. Use his whole career sample.

 

http://www.breakingblue.ca/2014/01/16/blue-jays-true-talent-offensive-platoon-splits/

[Brownie19]

You overestimate what a year and a half of platoon splits actually means. Use his whole career sample.

 

http://www.breakingblue.ca/2014/01/16/blue-jays-true-talent-offensive-platoon-splits/

 

I'm sorry, but I just see regression

 

wRC+ vs. LHP

 

2011 - 109

2012 - 103

2013 - 89

2014 - 55

2015 - 34

 

He has value and we could use another LH bat in the lineup. I'd love to have his defense and superior WWE knowledge on this team - I'm just not giving up our top assets to get him when he's a platoon guy.

[SAAviour]

@BKennedyStar: AA said he was "close" to making two deals in May, but they fell through. One was "90% there" before it fell apart. Nothing as close since.

[Angrioter]

AA was close to a deal at '14 deadline for a rental who was "having a down year." Return was Pillar & Nolin. Didn't pull trigger. #BlueJays

[glory]

@BKennedyStar: AA said he was "close" to making two deals in May, but they fell through. One was "90% there" before it fell apart. Nothing as close since.

 

Am I the only one who expects Norris, Boyd, Castro, and a returning Sanchez to be the only pitching help the Jays get this summer?

[Stangstag]

Am I the only one who expects Norris, Boyd, Castro, and a returning Sanchez to be the only pitching help the Jays get this summer?

 

After last years disaster, I am 100% sure a trade will be made before the deadline.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Walker the better target..... 4.64 ERA, 3.80 xFIP...... and Jack Z stupid

 

They're not trading Walker...

[Jimcanuck]

They're not trading Walker...

 

they will for the right deal. i'd rather norris, pompey, and whoever for walker instead of hamels

[reedjohnsonfan]

they will for the right deal. i'd rather norris, pompey, and whoever for walker instead of hamels

 

If they're in sell mode, why would they trade their best young pitcher? Not to be mean but that makes absolutely no sense.

[GD]

stop quoting him pls

[reedjohnsonfan]

stop quoting him pls

 

Why?

[GD]

I have him on IL and I'd rather be ignorant of proposals like that

[reedjohnsonfan]

lol fair enough.

[Jimcanuck]

If they're in sell mode, why would they trade their best young pitcher? Not to be mean but that makes absolutely no sense.

 

wells for napoli didnt make sense either

 

all i am saying is if trading top prospects for pitching, get a young pitcher already in MLB instead of a guy with 5 or so years left if his arm doesn't go dead like Halladay first

[Orgfiller]

Taijuan Walker is a young controllable pitcher and was a top pitching prospect for a very long time, he's also having a pretty decent year, something seemed to click after a rough start and he's been excellent ever since. This is why, like RJF has said, he's not getting traded any time soon. When teams start selling off their main assets they don't go for the 22 year old with a lot of potential and under team control.

 

Ironically, that last sentence also applies to Daniel Norris perfectly.

[glory]

I would rather take on the whole contract and give up a lesser package than the other way around.

 

That would be better, but Rogers won't see it that way.

 

If the Jays are intent on doing a big trade this trade deadline, and someone like Norris has to be included in any deal, then I'd rather trade for Hamels than a rental. At least with Hamels we get him for 3+ years. Norris for 6 years might end up being better value from 2016-onwards, but getting three years of an ace for that price is better than 2 months.

[flafson]

Raptors just signed Demarre Carroll to 4 years, 60 million.

[GD]

Raptors just signed Demarre Carroll to 4 years, 60 million.

 

there's a very active NBA thread