.500 team?

[bowld]

Are any of you realistically expecting us to finish much better than .500? This team cannot seem to string series wins together and I just dont see that turning around given all the scrubs currently playing. Our lineup looks absolutely nothing like any of us projected and the pitching staff is shaky at best

 

someone please give me some hope

[Spanky99]

Are any of you realistically expecting us to finish much better than .500? This team cannot seem to string series wins together and I just dont see that turning around given all the scrubs currently playing. Our lineup looks absolutely nothing like any of us projected and the pitching staff is shaky at best

 

someone please give me some hope

 

86 wins gets you the division.

[TBJ12]

Are any of you realistically expecting us to finish much better than .500? This team cannot seem to string series wins together and I just dont see that turning around given all the scrubs currently playing. Our lineup looks absolutely nothing like any of us projected and the pitching staff is shaky at best

 

someone please give me some hope

 

Not really sure what your beef with the offence is. Can't expect them to score 6+ runs every game.

 

What this team really needs is a couple quality starting pitchers, this bunch just isn't going to cut it.

[RealAccountant]

This is the best offensive team I have seen relative to the league. Relative BC of the juiced ball era but even better than that maybe even better

 

If the pitching gets it right we will do better

[CrackerJack]

I wouldn't be surprised if every team in our division was around the .500 mark by early July. Then, hopefully, Alex can add a legit starter before the trade deadline. AL East is up for grabs.

[Hipfan]

If they can keep within striking distance of first and add a couple of starters (a la Oakland last year) they they might be able to win the division. They really need Hutch to start performing and hope Sanchez shows enough glimpses of greatness to be a centrepiece of a trade for a top starter.

[Boxcar]

Are any of you realistically expecting us to finish much better than .500? This team cannot seem to string series wins together and I just dont see that turning around given all the scrubs currently playing. Our lineup looks absolutely nothing like any of us projected and the pitching staff is shaky at best

 

someone please give me some hope

 

This is what happens when the front office ignores the need for depth. AA has ignored it since he first took office, and he'll continue to ignore it until he leaves.

 

The Dodgers lost 2 really good SPs. Luckily, they made some shrewd moves like nabbing Wieland and Bolsinger. They also have Frias waiting, claimed a nice BP arm in Matt West and have an unbelievably good bench in case a starter gets hurt. We grab defensive liabilities who probably can't hit, or pray for the return of Johan Santana. It's a joke.

 

There's no using the Stroman excuse. AA puts this team in a position to fail every year with his borderline retarded roster management.

[CrackerJack]

I know it's all gonna come down to our starting pitching, but are we ever gonna see this lineup?

(put 'em in whatever order):

 

Reyes 6

Donaldson 5

Bautista 9/7

Edwin dh

Martin 2

Saunders 7/9

Pillar 8

Smoak 3

Travis 4

[Horses Fart]

I know it's all gonna come down to our starting pitching, but are we ever gonna see this lineup?

(put 'em in whatever order):

 

Reyes 6

Donaldson 5

Bautista 9/7

Edwin dh

Martin 2

Saunders 7/9

Pillar 8

Smoak 3

Travis 4

NeVeR!!!

[Horses Fart]

86 wins gets you the division.

 

And we will have what I picked at the beginning 80 or less. BY'. Lol

[BTS]

86 wins gets you the division.

 

That's what everyone said last year. 86 wins will not get you the division. Less than 90 wins will not get you the division.

[glory]

Every AL East team looks like a .500 team. The Jays, Rays, and Yankees have played the East 28 times, the Orioles 29 times, and the Red Sox 25. That's why no one is running away with the division right now. Evenly matched teams facing each other so much. We will see who the best team is when every team starts playing the rest of the league. One team will break out of the pack. The Yankees look like they have the pitching to do it, but who knows. Could be the Rays.

 

I don't think the Jays have the arms to win this, unless Norris pulls a 2014 Stroman, and someone like Boyd or Doubront surprises.

[TwistedLogic]

86 wins gets you the division.

 

No it doesn't. Someone in this division is almost always going to fluke or over-perform their way to 90. Over the past 25 years, only twice has a team won the AL East by less than 90 wins, and it hasn't happened since 2000. I don't see something as unlikely as that happening in a period where both the Orioles and the Yankees continue to wildly outperform their projections and their run differentials. People said the same thing last year and the Orioles ended up with the 2nd best record in baseball.

 

With the amount of parity in the division right now, only one team needs to go on a prolonged hot streak to be able to beat the s*** out of the other four teams and pad a lead.

 

Edit: Started writing that post earlier, got sidetracked, BTS basically ninja'd the same point before me.

[BlueJayWay]

That's what everyone said last year. 86 wins will not get you the division. Less than 90 wins will not get you the division.

I'd have to agree. This division has parity but it's likely that at least one team forges ahead and gets at least into the low 90s. 86 wins might get second in the division though, and it might put you in the wildcard race close to the end.

[Dylan]

I predicted an 80 win season. So far what I've expected has occurred, the pitching would be below average, expected injuries to players (Saunders, Reyes, Bautista), rookies we were relying heavily on wouldn't be allstars. Luckily we have lots of power that will make the team compete for 500.

 

A lot has to go our way to make the playoffs, but anything can happen in baseball..

[CrackerJack]

the Jays will stay in the mix, and then we'll see what this team looks like on Sept. 1 (healthwise, and after any acquisitions, plus expanded rosters) when the Jays will play 26 of their final 29 games against their AL East rivals.

[Spanky99]

That's what everyone said last year. 86 wins will not get you the division. Less than 90 wins will not get you the division.

 

Alright, iyo.

[Governator]

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[dineke]

Hopefully they don't even get to .500 so AA gets fired finally. He has more leash than f***ing Dwane Casey.

[kcjaysfan]

Started writing that post earlier, got sidetracked.

 

The same damn thing happens to me also. I'd probably have about twice as many posts if I could concentrate for any amount of time. My mind wanders so eas

[Terminator]

That's what everyone said last year. 86 wins will not get you the division. Less than 90 wins will not get you the division.

 

No it doesn't. Someone in this division is almost always going to fluke or over-perform their way to 90. Over the past 25 years, only twice has a team won the AL East by less than 90 wins, and it hasn't happened since 2000. I don't see something as unlikely as that happening in a period where both the Orioles and the Yankees continue to wildly outperform their projections and their run differentials. People said the same thing last year and the Orioles ended up with the 2nd best record in baseball.

 

There's more than one way of looking at that though. Do you actually need to beat the first place team to win the division? You only need to outpace the second place team right?

 

So last year the Yanks were second with 84 wins, the O's only needed 85 to win the division.

 

But then on the other hand this division usually has two teams with win totals in the 90's although I'm not certain that will happen this year.

 

Altogether, it's just too hard to say with any certainty how many wins it will take.

[Praxis]

It is still amazing to me that within the last 2½ years we have traded Alvarez, Nicolino, Syndergaard, Graveman, Wojciechowski, Nolin, DeSclafani and Happ and we are now so desperate for starting pitching we may be preparing to make yet another knee-jerk trade that will continue to cripple the long term development of this organization.

 

If this season is lost due to a lack of quality starts, we have no-one to blame but the front office.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

This team reminds me of those Rangers teams with A-Rod, Ivan, Young and Palmeiro - a few stars in the batters' box, and nothing else. I'd be shocked if we get anywhere near 86 wins. More like 76.

[ScientificReason]

YEs it is at best...you cannot lack pitching like we do and expect any better. This team needed pitching badly and they failed. A waste of a great offense.

[ScientificReason]

86 wins gets you the division.

 

Heard that all last year too how did that work out Nostrodamous?

[Spanky99]

Heard that all last year too how did that work out Nostrodamous?

 

Who's Nostrodamous? What's a foul ball? What's a balk? What's a fielders choice? My cat has the diabeeteez from drinking tap water?!

 

Nostrodumbass!!

[RealAccountant]

The season is about to go off the rails anyway. Houston will sweep us easily and we will never get back over .500 this season.

 

Wanna bet? I say jays at the very least go 2-2.

 

Loser doesn't login for a week

[L54]

Number 1 starter (Stroman)

Starting left fielder (Saunders)

Starting second baseman (Ramon Santiago)

Starting short stop (Reyes)

Starting first baseman (Smoak) effectively nullified by Bautista injury.

Back up catcher (Navarro)

Starting center fielder (Pompay) poor performance.

Number 5 starter (Norris) poor performance

 

Take that away from any team and see how many are still playing .500 ball. The Dodgers are the only ones that MIGHT have a chance and their payroll is almost double the Jays.

 

Bitching about a lack of depth is retarded. This is one of the deepest teams in the league.

 

This is not one of the deepest teams in the league.

 

Ramon Santiago was not the starting second basemen. He's a replacement level player

Reyes' "depth" is Ryan Goins. Another replacement level player

Smoak is decent depth at 1B

Navarro is replacement level

Pompey probably should've never made the team. His depth? Ezequiel Carrera. Also replacement level.

The only reason Norris was on the team out of ST was because of lack of depth.

 

The Jays are .500 because they have an elite offense built around 5-6 players. Wait and see how bad it is if one of Bautista, EE, Donaldson, Martin or Travis goes down.

[Spanky99]

Wanna bet? I say jays at the very least go 2-2.

 

Loser doesn't login for a week

 

You got yourself a bet.

 

YES!!

 

cf

[BigCecil]

This is not one of the deepest teams in the league.

 

Ramon Santiago was not the starting second basemen. He's a replacement level player

Reyes' "depth" is Ryan Goins. Another replacement level player

Smoak is decent depth at 1B

Navarro is replacement level

Pompey probably should've never made the team. His depth? Ezequiel Carrera. Also replacement level.

The only reason Norris was on the team out of ST was because of lack of depth.

 

The Jays are .500 because they have an elite offense built around 5-6 players. Wait and see how bad it is if one of Bautista, EE, Donaldson, Martin or Travis goes down.

 

 

What he said...that was some serious rationalizing to feel good about where we sit. I do think we are fortunate to be where we are the way we have pitched but its not depth that has kept us treading water.

 

The question is will we stay/get healthy enough to make a run. Sadly, without adding some arm talent I'm not very optimistic. BTW HTF did we fail to see anything in Jesse Chavez? I am traumatized by the fact Im missing Happ at this point.