G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Pompey is faster but Pillar has just been so spectacular on defense. Should Gibby be playing Pillar in CF right now or are we focused on the long term idea that Pompey is our CF and lead-off hitter of the future so let him get as many reps as he can?
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Pompey is faster but Pillar has just been so spectacular on defense. Should Gibby be playing Pillar in CF right now or are we focused on the long term idea that Pompey is our CF and lead-off hitter of the future so let him get as many reps as he can? Pompey has plate discipline. Pompey can switch hit. There are a lot of reasons to like Pompey more. I say give Pillar starts against LHP but not always at the expense of Pompey because Dalton needs to face some LHP too. He is definitely the CF of the future.
intentional wok Old-Timey Member Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Pompey has plate discipline. Pompey can switch hit. There are a lot of reasons to like Pompey more. I say give Pillar starts against LHP but not always at the expense of Pompey because Dalton needs to face some LHP too. He is definitely the CF of the future. DH Saunders with Pillar in LF when Edwin plays 1B (which he should rarely be doing anyway, but that's not how this works)?
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted April 22, 2015 Author Posted April 22, 2015 Pompey has plate discipline. Pompey can switch hit. There are a lot of reasons to like Pompey more. I say give Pillar starts against LHP but not always at the expense of Pompey because Dalton needs to face some LHP too. He is definitely the CF of the future. That's what my brain tells me too. Pompey has higher end abilities especially offensively. My gut tells me Pillar is a better defender right now and I'd like him spending more time in CF to take advantage of it. So, I'm torn
Laika Community Moderator Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 According to StatCast, Pompey's mean route efficiency in the centre field is 98.14% whereas Kevin Pillar's median route efficiency in the left field is 98.26 but Pompey edges him in top speed and closing speed by close to two knots and his legs are about 4.67 cm longer in length although Pillar has girthier thighs by about 2 inches around FWIW but on the contrary to that Pillar is hotter than him defensively by about 2.6 degrees Kelvin right now so really it's anybody's game that's all I'm trying to say is what the stats say.
reedjohnsonfan Verified Member Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 According to StatCast, Pompey's mean route efficiency in the centre field is 98.14% whereas Kevin Pillar's median route efficiency in the left field is 98.26 but Pompey edges him in top speed and closing speed by close to two knots and his legs are about 4.67 cm longer in length although Pillar has girthier thighs by about 2 inches around FWIW but on the contrary to that Pillar is hotter than him defensively by about 2.6 degrees Kelvin right now so really it's anybody's game that's all I'm trying to say is what the stats say. lol
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted April 22, 2015 Author Posted April 22, 2015 No. Pillar is a very good 4th OF. Pillar's OPS is .631 right now (.636 career). He has made some spectacular plays...but has made some mistakes as well. Let's be thankful that he held the fort down while Saunders was hurt, but not fall in love with him and make him more than he really is. Reminds me of Reed Johnson...Was a great 4th OF, but people kept wanting to make him a regular. Rajai was much the same way
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted April 22, 2015 Author Posted April 22, 2015 According to StatCast, Pompey's mean route efficiency in the centre field is 98.14% whereas Kevin Pillar's median route efficiency in the left field is 98.26 but Pompey edges him in top speed and closing speed by close to two knots and his legs are about 4.67 cm longer in length although Pillar has girthier thighs by about 2 inches around FWIW but on the contrary to that Pillar is hotter than him defensively by about 2.6 degrees Kelvin right now so really it's anybody's game that's all I'm trying to say is what the stats say. LOL. Love it. (And yes I understand the entirety of the truth to sarcasm of this post)
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted April 22, 2015 Author Posted April 22, 2015 OK I'll calm down, stop micromanaging, and just let Pompey develop
baubau Verified Member Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Pompey is faster but Pillar has just been so spectacular on defense. Should Gibby be playing Pillar in CF right now or are we focused on the long term idea that Pompey is our CF and lead-off hitter of the future so let him get as many reps as he can? Both have 4 DFS: http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=10,d As you said Pillar isn't as big of a burner as Pompey and it could take away from him if he goes into CF as he won't be able to cover as much ground. Despite his bad game last time, Pompey is still solid in CF. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
Chappy Community Moderator Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Pillar as a 4th OF is a great luxury. Let's just be happy we are in such a fortunate position in terms of OF depth.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Pillar's fine as a 4th OF. I'm actually willing to sell high on him if some GM (Stewart) is willing to give up something nice.
MatBarnes Verified Member Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Pillar is great as long as you don't put him in a clutch situation offensively. The kid flails a way trying to be a hero every god damn time.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 According to StatCast, Pompey's mean route efficiency in the centre field is 98.14% whereas Kevin Pillar's median route efficiency in the left field is 98.26 but Pompey edges him in top speed and closing speed by close to two knots and his legs are about 4.67 cm longer in length although Pillar has girthier thighs by about 2 inches around FWIW but on the contrary to that Pillar is hotter than him defensively by about 2.6 degrees Kelvin right now so really it's anybody's game that's all I'm trying to say is what the stats say. Pillar got some hot-ass defense.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Pillar, Pompey, Saunders can play all 3 OF positions Bautista can be RF, 1B, DH, 3B EE 1B, DH, and 3B or LF in a pinch Smoak 1B or DH A lot of flexibility here, 6 players/5 positions = 162 * 5/6 = 135 games each Go by pitching matchups and keep them rested, keep them fresh
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Pillar got some hot-ass defense. Just call him Kelvin Pillar
Laika Community Moderator Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Pillar, Pompey, Saunders can play all 3 OF positions Bautista can be RF, 1B, DH, 3B EE 1B, DH, and 3B or LF in a pinch Smoak 1B or DH A lot of flexibility here, 6 players/5 positions = 162 * 5/6 = 135 games each Go by pitching matchups and keep them rested, keep them fresh Really though, Bautista can't play 3rd worth s*** anymore and Edwin could never play 3B worth s*** or LF at all. Saunders with the knee injury and no meniscus is probably a poor CF going forward too.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 stats stats stats etc.... but who is the better whistler?
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Really though, Bautista can't play 3rd worth s*** anymore and Edwin could never play 3B worth s*** or LF at all. Saunders with the knee injury and no meniscus is probably a poor CF going forward too. Agreed, hopefully don't see them at those positions again The point stands, a multi-player, multi-position platoon is workable to keep everyone rested and get their reps
Laika Community Moderator Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 but who is the better whistler? yer mum, oi #FreeKing
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Pillar, Pompey, Saunders can play all 3 OF positions Bautista can be RF, 1B, DH, 3B EE 1B, DH, and 3B or LF in a pinch Smoak 1B or DH A lot of flexibility here, 6 players/5 positions = 162 * 5/6 = 135 games each Go by pitching matchups and keep them rested, keep them fresh Jose at third... hard pass EE DH yes, 1st as little as possible. Smoak is miles better defensively and since most plays go through first having a good defender there is very good. plus JD has been sailing throws, best to have your best chance at catching the balls that aren't perfect and that's NOT ED.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Just call him Kelvin Pillar This deserved more thanks
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 yer mum, oi my mother can't whistle since the accident... you're horrible. how could you say something like that.
Slot Machine Verified Member Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 This deserved more thanks Done.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Really though, Bautista can't play 3rd worth s*** anymore and Edwin could never play 3B worth s*** or LF at all. Saunders with the knee injury and no meniscus is probably a poor CF going forward too. even before the injury Saunders was a terrible CF. Judging by the metrics he's an average LF, plus RF and below avg CF.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Prefer Kendrick Pillar. Hes stealing hits like hes straight out of Compton. I'll call him Kelvin Pilfers.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Below replacement level so far in 2015
IBTrini Verified Member Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Pompey is faster but Pillar has just been so spectacular on defense. Should Gibby be playing Pillar in CF right now or are we focused on the long term idea that Pompey is our CF and lead-off hitter of the future so let him get as many reps as he can?I feel Pompey should be in CF. I believe Pillar is playing all out to prove he can be a regular and while it has been nice to see I do not feel he can sustain this for long. I am hoping I am wrong but that's the feeling I have.
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