Bad News Coming - Stroman torn ACL, will miss entire 2015 season

[o2cui2i]

and it's only march 11th... spring training always feels so long

 

it's gone from "great to see baseball again" to "what the f*** else can go wrong" in the blink of an eye

[SAAviour]

I thought Strasburg has 2 years left on his deal, I guess I could google it but I just don't care.

 

It's times like these I day dream of being the multi billionaire owner of the jays and calling Amaro saying give us hamels and we'll take Howard off your hands, then dump Howard before the trade contract ink is dry. Not giving a f*** about the cash.

[HERPDERP]

Guys, it's possible Stroman can be pitching in September.

 

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/05/sports/baseball/positive-signs-for-mariano-riveras-return-from-torn-acl.html?_r=0

 

The Brewers right-hander Yovani Gallardo was 22 when he tore his right A.C.L. covering first base on May 1, 2008. Gallardo said he was told he would miss the rest of the season. Yet with Milwaukee pushing for the playoffs, he returned that Sept. 25, and started Game 1 of the National League division series. He said he did not do extra work beyond his regular rehabilitation.

“I kind of surprised myself, that I was able to return and make starts,” Gallardo said. “The training staff did a great job. I don’t think I had enough energy to double up on everything; the rehab is really tough. You’ve just got to go get it done.”

 

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Gallardo tore his May 1st. That's a month into the season and 2 months later than Stroman's. Stroman could conceivably come back earlier than September.

[Sammy225]

I thought Strasburg has 2 years left on his deal, I guess I could google it but I just don't care.

 

It's times like these I day dream of being the multi billionaire owner of the jays and calling Amaro saying give us hamels and we'll take Howard off your hands, then dump Howard before the trade contract ink is dry. Not giving a f*** about the cash.

 

I was wondering about taking Paps at full price wondering if that would give us some kind of discount.

[TwistedLogic]

Oh. Thought this thing was a dream.

 

http://m.mlb.com/video/v43764583/blue-jays-gm-anthopoulos-on-losing-stroman-for-year/?cid=mlb

 

AA looks better with the beard.

 

The Brewers right-hander Yovani Gallardo was 22 when he tore his right A.C.L. covering first base on May 1, 2008. Gallardo said he was told he would miss the rest of the season. Yet with Milwaukee pushing for the playoffs, he returned that Sept. 25, and started Game 1 of the National League division series. He said he did not do extra work beyond his regular rehabilitation.

“I kind of surprised myself, that I was able to return and make starts,” Gallardo said. “The training staff did a great job. I don’t think I had enough energy to double up on everything; the rehab is really tough. You’ve just got to go get it done.”

 

Don't the Brewers have the best training/medical staff in the majors? I don't know how much of a role that might play in rehabbing a torn ACL, but even I thought it was a bit of a stretch to prematurely declare that Stroman will be out for the whole season off a March injury. All they can do is prepare the rotation and their depth as well as they can, and hope he gets back sooner as a pleasant bonus.

[TwistedLogic]

A torn ACL usually takes 6-9 months to fully rehab, with some guys coming back even sooner than that, and others taking longer. Jerry Rice came back from a torn ACL in 3.5 months and then fractured his knee in his first game. It's pretty much up to Stroman to not push himself too hard and to get a full and proper recovery. Seeing him back by August is not out of the realm of possibility.

[Zaun of the Dead]

Yeah I don't know if that could be the case here. our medical staff isn't exactly elite.

[Sammy225]

Guys, it's possible Stroman can be pitching in September.

 

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/05/sports/baseball/positive-signs-for-mariano-riveras-return-from-torn-acl.html?_r=0

 

The Brewers right-hander Yovani Gallardo was 22 when he tore his right A.C.L. covering first base on May 1, 2008. Gallardo said he was told he would miss the rest of the season. Yet with Milwaukee pushing for the playoffs, he returned that Sept. 25, and started Game 1 of the National League division series. He said he did not do extra work beyond his regular rehabilitation.

“I kind of surprised myself, that I was able to return and make starts,” Gallardo said. “The training staff did a great job. I don’t think I had enough energy to double up on everything; the rehab is really tough. You’ve just got to go get it done.”

 

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Gallardo tore his May 1st. That's a month into the season and 2 months later than Stroman's. Stroman could conceivably come back earlier than September.

 

 

Different people heal differently. Some quicker some slower. There really is no any special remedy for this or all training staffs would be doing it.

[Angrioter]

I still believe!!

[ScientificReason]

Why are all these users with usernames that imply they are intelligent in some sense so damn stupid?

 

Nothng stupid about my post, it is fact that many were screaming for more arms the offseason, depth was an issue before this. Unless your IQ really is that if a knat, which by the sound of it is, pretty logical. Maybe try to formulate an intellectual comeback instead of drooling as you type, Her der he dumb.

[GD]

Nothng stupid about my post, it is fact that many were screaming for more arms the offseason, depth was an issue before this. Unless your IQ really is that if a knat, which by the sound of it is, pretty logical. Maybe try to formulate an intellectual comeback instead of drooling as you type, Her der he dumb.

 

I enjoy the fact that you, Metallijay, came back with these "logic" focused posts, because you figured no one would ever guess that Metallijay would be logical.

[North of 60]

Jon Morosi

Edwin Encarnacion told me today he's still suffering from inflammation in his back. He may not return to games until next week. #BlueJays

 

I know injuries are part of baseball, but the Blue Jays seem to have a lot of injuries. Starting to think the Jays' training staff has no idea what they're doing. Time to get rid of Poulis he has been here for as long as I can remember.

 

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[BTS]

I see we've hit the idiotic 'fire the trainers' stage.

[Ambassador Ch0n]

Nothng stupid about my post, it is fact that many were screaming for more arms the offseason, depth was an issue before this. Unless your IQ really is that if a knat, which by the sound of it is, pretty logical. Maybe try to formulate an intellectual comeback instead of drooling as you type, Her der he dumb.

 

"if a knat"

 

Think you mean "of a gnat" there, champ.

 

You really need to start paying more attention in English class there kiddo, you come off as a bit of an idiot.

 

You at least seem to be aware of this shortcoming of yours in the IQ department, as your relentless projecting of idiocy onto everyone else but yourself demonstrates, so there's hope for you yet. Quit being such an obnoxious know-nothing douchebag, and learn to speak and write English properly. Maybe then somebody on here will take you seriously metallijay.

[Angrioter]

All huge losses, but you're making a huge mistake. Stroman was the team's ace, losing him pushes everyone up the depth chart and creates a potentially scary situation with your bottom two starters. Additionally, you're not replacing him with Norris/Sanchez. One was already essentially a lock to make the rotation as it stood. So let's say that was Norris, then you're replacing your ace with a prospect who hasn't really performed exceptionally well as a starter in the minors at all, and could very well implode up here, leaving you with Norris/Estrada as your 4 & 5.

 

Ace ----> Unproven (and downright scary) Sanchez/Scrub Estrada is the biggest loss to this team without a doubt. Your comparisons are invalid kiddo.

 

Bautista 5 Wins out ----> Pillar 1 Win in

Donaldson 5 Wins out ----> Valencia 1 win in

Martin 5 Wins out ----> Navarro 2 Wins in

Stroman 4 Wins out ----> Norris 1.5 Wins in

[jays_fever]

I peaked in there yesterday and the majority of them say it is Karma for throwing at one of their players...... They love it.

 

You have to give them credit though for figuring out how to even turn on their computers

[GD]

Fixed

 

And Stroman isn't 4 wins out, either (most likely)

[burlingtonbandit]

Seeing how young Stroman is and how hard he trains I think he can come back later this season. Obviously the Jays are going to say he is out for the rest of the season to not create false optimism and pressure on the player. If the Jays are in the race you hope he can come back late in September. Sucks it was his left leg instead of his right though especially with the amount of force he uses landing on the plant leg.

[CrackerJack]

alls I know is that there's no juggernaut in our division plus there's quite a bit of parity throughout our league, and so it's reasonable to believe that the Jays can stay in the thick of it (at least the wildcard race) until mid-summer ... at which point I think AA/Beeston will make a splash at the trade deadline to (a) try to save Alex's job and ( try to give Paul one last hurrah. Edited March 11, 2015 by CrackerJack

[Maahfaace]

Guys, it's possible Stroman can be pitching in September.

 

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/05/sports/baseball/positive-signs-for-mariano-riveras-return-from-torn-acl.html?_r=0

 

The Brewers right-hander Yovani Gallardo was 22 when he tore his right A.C.L. covering first base on May 1, 2008. Gallardo said he was told he would miss the rest of the season. Yet with Milwaukee pushing for the playoffs, he returned that Sept. 25, and started Game 1 of the National League division series. He said he did not do extra work beyond his regular rehabilitation.

“I kind of surprised myself, that I was able to return and make starts,” Gallardo said. “The training staff did a great job. I don’t think I had enough energy to double up on everything; the rehab is really tough. You’ve just got to go get it done.”

 

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Gallardo tore his May 1st. That's a month into the season and 2 months later than Stroman's. Stroman could conceivably come back earlier than September.

 

Severity of the tear is a big factor in determining recovery time, sometimes with clean tears it reduces the amount of reconstructive surgery, speeding up recovery. They really won't know until surgery.

[ScientificReason]

"if a knat"

 

Think you mean "of a gnat" there, champ.

 

You really need to start paying more attention in English class there kiddo, you come off as a bit of an idiot.

 

You at least seem to be aware of this shortcoming of yours in the IQ department, as your relentless projecting of idiocy onto everyone else but yourself demonstrates, so there's hope for you yet. Quit being such an obnoxious know-nothing douchebag, and learn to speak and write English properly. Maybe then somebody on here will take you seriously metallijay.

 

Another " I am braindead and can only insult and not actually come up with a rebuttal" post from an idiot. Come back when you have a brain. Says a lot when all you can do is insult usually a sign of low IQ. I don't know what a metaljay is, is that a word a retard only understands? If so that explains a lot.

[Daniel Labude]

Severity of the tear is a big factor in determining recovery time, sometimes with clean tears it reduces the amount of reconstructive surgery, speeding up recovery. They really won't know until surgery.

This isn't like a torn meniscus. If it's torn at all that surgery is required they will replace the ACL with a graft either from a tendon from his body or a cadavers

[BTS]

Seeing how young Stroman is and how hard he trains I think he can come back later this season. Obviously the Jays are going to say he is out for the rest of the season to not create false optimism and pressure on the player. If the Jays are in the race you hope he can come back late in September. Sucks it was his left leg instead of his right though especially with the amount of force he uses landing on the plant leg.

 

Marco Estrada is probably a 1-2 win starter.

[burlingtonbandit]

Marco Estrada is probably a 1-2 win starter.

 

I would agree but what does this have to do with my post? lol

[BTS]

I would agree but what does this have to do with my post? lol

 

Absolutely nothing lol. I meant to quote the dumn guy. Irony.

[Deadpool]

This isn't like a torn meniscus. If it's torn at all that surgery is required they will replace the ACL with a graft either from a tendon from his body or a cadavers

 

Sweet, Stroman could wind up with a bit of a dead guy in him!

[Spanky99]

Seeing how young Stroman is and how hard he trains I think he can come back later this season. Obviously the Jays are going to say he is out for the rest of the season to not create false optimism and pressure on the player. If the Jays are in the race you hope he can come back late in September. Sucks it was his left leg instead of his right though especially with the amount of force he uses landing on the plant leg.

 

Definitely would've been better if it was his push-off leg. *sighs*

[Spanky99]

This isn't like a torn meniscus. If it's torn at all that surgery is required they will replace the ACL with a graft either from a tendon from his body or a cadavers

 

Yes, they graft from other tendons, usually the PCL and MCL of the same knee.

[Orgfiller]

Ignore math and reason for a second. Let's just throw names on the wall and see what's pretty.

 

Bautista ----> Pillar

Donaldson ----> Valencia

Martin ----> Navarro

Stroman ----> Norris/Sanchez

 

Three position players who are replaced by junk. A pitcher that is replaced by a top prospect.

 

What's the biggest delta, kiddo?

 

Sure, when you say it everyone praises the smart NJH, when I say it no one blinks an eye.

[Orgfiller]

I see we've hit the idiotic 'fire the trainers' stage.

 

I love his reasoning too. The trainer has been around for a really long time, that must mean he's really bad at his job!