Aaron Sanchez Reality Check Thread

[Gorlak]

I think Sanchez/Estrada in the rotation with Norris in AAA is a good idea. However, if they decide to go with Sanchez and Norris, then there are ways to manage their innings using Estrada as the spot starter. For example, if one of the two is struggling in June, have Estrada take their spot in the rotation for 1-3 turns, and then put them back in the rotation after that, and so on. That way they periodically get a breather, and can still finish the season with an IP total around 170 or so (which I'm guessing is where they want to go after 130 IP in 2014 for both).

 

I don't know if you want to have Norris or Sanchez benched for almost a month throughout a season. Estrada is the guy you can yo-yo because nobody cares about him.

[Gorlak]

From a statistic point of view Norris has progressed alot the last few years... Sanchez is pretty much the same thing..

 

Id still go w/ Norris over Sanchez now for the 5th spot, and Estrada as 4th is a no-brainer..

 

Estrada will be bad. Sanchez may be worse, but has a chance to be much better. Estrada could be a negative WAR player, Estrada's terrible WAR last season was buoyed by his great stint in the bullpen. Estrada being Below replacement value starter is just as likely as him being a 1.5 WAR starter.

[glory]

I don't know if you want to have Norris or Sanchez benched for almost a month throughout a season. Estrada is the guy you can yo-yo because nobody cares about him.

 

Not benched necessarily, but skipped once or twice to get some rest. They can essentially flip spots with Estrada in that scenario, where they spend 10 days to 2 weeks as long reliever to calm their innings down, and then go back into the rotation from there. Not saying that's a great thing to do, but if they want to get mileage out of Norris/Sanchez without abusing their IP totals, then something like that could work.

[Gorlak]

Castro and Osuna would both be better big league starters right now than Aaron Sanchez, lol.

 

It's like Sanchez hasn't even developed during his entire time in the minors, aside from adding some velocity to his fastball.

 

Both talented players in their own right. If it wasn't for injury, Osuna would likely have been competing with Norris and Sanchez.

[glory]

Norris > Estrada > Sanchez, if I had to guess 2015 performance as starters, but I want Norris to start in AAA for service time reasons. A lefty with his stuff is worth holding onto for that extra year, even if it means a month and a half of Sanchez/Estrada in the back end of the rotation.

[Gorlak]

From a statistic point of view Norris has progressed alot the last few years... Sanchez is pretty much the same thing..

 

Id still go w/ Norris over Sanchez now for the 5th spot, and Estrada as 4th is a no-brainer..

 

Norris only took a step forward last season, but both have such a small sample size that I look at scouting reports over stats or projections anyways. I'd keep Norris down only for control reasons, but If Sanchez or Estrada are blowing it I would bring him up quickly, Or if Norris was banging the door down.

[ElNik2013]

Norris only took a step forward last season, but both have such a small sample size that I look at scouting reports over stats or projections anyways. I'd keep Norris down only for control reasons, but If Sanchez or Estrada are blowing it I would bring him up quickly, Or if Norris was banging the door down.

 

 

 

Not to get involved, but Norris took a step forward around midway through the 2013 season. I think Pompey did as well.

[Gorlak]

Norris > Estrada > Sanchez, if I had to guess 2015 performance as starters, but I want Norris to start in AAA for service time reasons. A lefty with his stuff is worth holding onto for that extra year, even if it means a month and a half of Sanchez/Estrada in the back end of the rotation.

 

There is a very real chance Sanchez would be worth more WAR than Estrada as a starter. It's not certain, but it's a bet I would take.

[tercet]

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[tercet]

There is a very real chance Sanchez would be worth more WAR than Estrada as a starter. It's not certain, but it's a bet I would take.

 

How much u willing to bet?

[Laika]

Sanchez locked into rotation.

AA can't see how he can cut Castro.

 

lulz

[S33n]

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^Gets mini chub from bumping own thread constantly.

[tercet]

^Gets mini chub from bumping own thread constantly.

 

ty for stating the obvious

#saynotosanchez

[KingKat]

Sanchez locked into rotation.

AA can't see how he can cut Castro.

 

lulz

 

Very strange stacking of the deck for Castro with some of his best competition for a spot being sent to Minor League camp early.

[glory]

Sanchez locked into rotation.

AA can't see how he can cut Castro.

 

lulz

 

Alex is fired if the team fails and he has no money to spend. Dude is going out with the guys he drafted or signed, for better or worse.

 

Very selfish the way he is using Castro but that's why GM's should never have one year remaining on their contracts. Either extend them or replace them.

[tercet]

Aaron Sanchez had a 0 era in 2014 Spring Training over 15 Innings.. #uselessstats #saynotosanchez

[BTS]

Sanchez locked into rotation.

AA can't see how he can cut Castro.

 

lulz

 

Where did he say these things?

 

This org is so frustrating. The Martin signing and Donaldson trade should have been the foundation for a run at 90+ wins this year, but the guys running the show can't get out of their own way.

[Laika]

Where did he say these things?

 

This org is so frustrating. The Martin and Donaldson trades should have been the foundation for a run at 90+ wins this year, but the guys running the show can't get out of their own way.

 

Just a media blurb reported on twitter this morning.

 

He also differentiated Osuna and Castro by saying that "Osuna had been hit a bit harder this spring", and he said they might break with an 8 man pen depending on where Saunders is at.

 

As usual, you hope there's a lot more under the surface. The comments are so superficial and stupid.

 

MAYBE they don't think Castro is anything more than a reliever long term, after having watching him for a couple of years. Maybe...

[BTS]

Just a media blurb reported on twitter this morning.

 

He also differentiated Osuna and Castro by saying that "Osuna had been hit a bit harder this spring", and he said they might break with an 8 man pen depending on where Saunders is at.

 

Mismanagement everywhere.

[KingKat]

AA on Castro:

 

“He’s just looked so good. I guess all I’d say at this point is if he continues to perform like this and he was to not make the team and I had my media scrum, I don’t know what I would say as to why he wouldn’t make the team.”

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/anthopoulos-castro-unbelievable-position/

 

 

 

Gibbons on Sanchez

 

"He's pretty much locked into (the rotation) now,"

 

http://www.thescore.com/news/725315

[Boxcar]

No matter how good things look on the surface, seems you always have to be mindful of the idiots making decisions.

[King]

No matter how good things look on the surface, seems you always have to be mindful of the idiots making decisions.

 

BBDL/LoD/DDL relevant.

[glory]

They should have fired AA after he acquired Saunders. A better GM could have put the finishing touches on this roster.

 

Instead, Harry and Lloyd (or Alex and Gibby) will run this team to the ground to save their jobs.

 

Poor Castro. Wrong place, wrong time. He deserved a chance to see if he could make it as a starter. Now he will probably never know.

[Deadpool]

Just because a young guy gets used in the bullpen at first doesn't mean he will stay there for the future. See Sanchez.

 

Also see pretty much every young pitcher in the 90s...

[G-Snarls]

Just because a young guy gets used in the bullpen at first doesn't mean he will stay there for the future. See Sanchez.

 

And Stroman. And several pitchers in the Tampa and St. Louis organizations.

[G-Snarls]

Holy Negative Nancy's. Some people aren't happy unless they're miserable and the sky is falling.

 

Exactly. We have some great young arms and more than expected are looking potentially MLB ready. What is there to complain about?

[glory]

Just because a young guy gets used in the bullpen at first doesn't mean he will stay there for the future. See Sanchez.

 

He has 80 innings as his max so far. As a reliever he will throw about 75. Stretching him out next year will require a trip to the minors, and how likely is that if he succeeds (even artificially) as a reliever? Even if they do stretch him out again in 2016, he will be back in the pen at the first sign of not panning out immediately. We have seen this song and dance forever.

[G-Snarls]

f***. We used to be so jealous of Oakland and Tampa because they always had these good young arms that kept coming up and being successful. That could now be us for a change. Let's be happy about it.

[HERPDERP]

it wasn't a long time ago that everyone asked if Stroman should be in the BP or in the rotation. and Stroman himself didn't mind either way. And look how he developed.

 

I don't mind Sanchez in either role, just like Stroman back then. Unfortunately Sanchez doesn't have the repertoire that Stroman does, but I think he can still be a good rotation piece with the power sinker.

[HERPDERP]

f***. We used to be so jealous of Oakland and Tampa because they always had these good young arms that kept coming up and being successful. That could now be us for a change. Let's be happy about it.

 

What I like is that we have a bunch of these pitchers coming up roughly at the same time. So we can have a true dynasty rotation (if all goes well) and end up with amazing cost-control.