Blue Jays sign Ronald Belisario and Ramon Santiago

[BTS]

You will remember this. Who was it on the old board who posted a picture of himself as this big bulky redhead?

 

free_pizza, also known as fanboy_fap

[BTS]

Leemarvin aka Jarvis.

 

One of juiced ' finest monents

 

leemarvin

 

I knew I was forgetting a longtime alias.

[Angrioter]

[Candy Maldonado]

is bulking/cutting a seasonal thing ? Eating a ton in the winter and losing weight in the spring to look great in the summer?

 

My big worry is that when I start losing weight, I'll lose a bunch of fat and all my muscle gains. But I guess thats unavoidable?

 

Dirty bulking and cutting is very old school. You can only gain so much muscle per month so there is no point in adding a ton of fat which later on you will have to spend months to lose. The aim should be lean gains so you look good all year.

[Captain Adama]

Dirty bulking and cutting is very old school. You can only gain so much muscle per month so there is no point in adding a ton of fat which later on you will have to spend months to lose. The aim should be lean gains so you look good all year.

 

Agreed +10000

 

If you're gonna cut without losing muscle, lose some extra carbs and substitute protein in its place. You dont lose much muscle, if any.

[jays76]

What do you guys use for supplements? I take a vita stack, amino acids (during workout), and whey protein/glutamine smoothie (post workout). I think those 4 are vital but any other recommendations?

 

I'm going for a lean look instead of mass so I do lighter weights and more reps. I stretch for 5min, jump on a bike to get the heart rate up for 5min then 45min freeweights and 30mins cardio (15min each machine). I heard this was the optimum workout, I also alternate my cardio program with swimming every other workout so I don't get bored.

 

In my diet I do the standard lean meats, fruits, veggies, tuna, eggs, walnuts, raisins, etc. I cut out white potato and white rice, I only use sweet potato/squash & brown rice for my complex carbs.

 

I'm trying to drink a s*** ton of water & do walking, yoga/meditation on my off days. Of course I fall off huge if I go drinking with friends and eat tons of s*** food or slip up from time to time with my diet during the wk but for the most part I try to stick to this.

 

Does anyone have any more advice they can give about diet/routine? I really want to get ripped by the summer. I used to be cut but I've slipped huge the last few yrs so I'm looking to get it back without cheating (juicing). I'm looking for any advantage that's all natural.

[HERPDERP]

Thanks for the tips guys. I guess we have a month left in the winter so I can bulk a bit more and eat some of this:

 

http://www.manhattansburger.com/docs/Sides%20Menu%20-%20BAC%202014%20V3.jpg

[bendera3]

What do you guys use for supplements? I take a vita stack, amino acids (during workout), and whey protein/glutamine smoothie (post workout). I think those 4 are vital but any other recommendations?

 

I'm going for a lean look instead of mass so I do lighter weights and more reps. I stretch for 5min, jump on a bike to get the heart rate up for 5min then 45min freeweights and 30mins cardio (15min each machine). I heard this was the optimum workout, I also alternate my cardio program with swimming every other workout so I don't get bored.

 

In my diet I do the standard lean meats, fruits, veggies, tuna, eggs, walnuts, raisins, etc. I cut out white potato and white rice, I only use sweet potato/squash & brown rice for my complex carbs.

 

I'm trying to drink a s*** ton of water & do walking, yoga/meditation on my off days. Of course I fall off huge if I go drinking with friends and eat tons of s*** food or slip up from time to time with my diet during the wk but for the most part I try to stick to this.

 

Does anyone have any more advice they can give about diet/routine? I really want to get ripped by the summer. I used to be cut but I've slipped huge the last few yrs so I'm looking to get it back without cheating (juicing). I'm looking for any advantage that's all natural.

 

I use creatine beforehand and whey protein afterwards, that's it. I know there are a lot of supplements out there but in my opinion you don't really need them. Just work hard with your routine and keep adding weight, miles, resistance, etc and you'll see your results.

[jaysfan2014]

 

Good luck finding a better deal.. Belisario is going to have trouble getting a deal after these negotiations.

[Candy Maldonado]

What do you guys use for supplements?I take a vita stack, amino acids (during workout), and whey protein/glutamine smoothie (post workout). I think those 4 are vital but any other recommendations?

 

I'm going for a lean look instead of mass so I do lighter weights and more reps. I stretch for 5min, jump on a bike to get the heart rate up for 5min then 45min freeweights and 30mins cardio (15min each machine). I heard this was the optimum workout, I also alternate my cardio program with swimming every other workout so I don't get bored.

 

In my diet I do the standard lean meats, fruits, veggies, tuna, eggs, walnuts, raisins, etc. I cut out white potato and white rice, I only use sweet potato/squash & brown rice for my complex carbs.

 

I'm trying to drink a s*** ton of water & do walking, yoga/meditation on my off days. Of course I fall off huge if I go drinking with friends and eat tons of s*** food or slip up from time to time with my diet during the wk but for the most part I try to stick to this.

 

Does anyone have any more advice they can give about diet/routine? I really want to get ripped by the summer.

 

You really don't have to cut out white rice and potatoes. You can remain lean and eat anything. It mostly comes down to calories in vs calories out. Eating healthy is good but you shouldn't deprive yourself. Lighter weights and more reps is very vague. Dynamic stretching before a working, static stretching after. Total protein for the day/week matters way more than rushing to have some protein following a workout.

[L54]

You really don't have to cut out white rice and potatoes. You can remain lean and eat anything. It mostly comes down to calories in vs calories out. Eating healthy is good but you shouldn't deprive yourself. Lighter weights and more reps is very vague. Dynamic stretching before a working, static stretching after. Total protein for the day/week matters way more than rushing to have some protein following a workout.

 

Your posts are very accurate. We believe in similar things.

[jays76]

I use creatine beforehand and whey protein afterwards, that's it. I know there are a lot of supplements out there but in my opinion you don't really need them. Just work hard with your routine and keep adding weight, miles, resistance, etc and you'll see your results.

 

Thanks, I'd use creatine too but I'm trying to avoid mass. You should add vitamins and amino acids, also glutamine to your shakes as it will enhance your muscle rebuild during recovery. They're all natural and essential to the body, I hear what you're saying though there's so much s*** on the market that isn't essential and can add up quick!

[Deadpool]

I'm guessing this deal fell through when AA found out that Belissario wasn't actually "that guy who played Morpheus"...

[Spanky99]

Does anyone here work in any type of health/fitness/athletic training setting?

 

I'm finishing up a degree in Exercise Science and am hoping to go to graduate school afterwards.

 

Vanland, he's got his own business out west.

[jaysfan2014]

I'm guessing this deal fell through when AA found out that Belissario wasn't actually "that guy who played Morpheus"...

 

Belisario also has had visa issues which may have made it difficult to come into Canada, along with a previous suspension for cocaine. That might've been the reason the deal was pulled.

[ScientificReason]

The Jays Handsome ratio just went back up.

[jays76]

You really don't have to cut out white rice and potatoes. You can remain lean and eat anything. It mostly comes down to calories in vs calories out. Eating healthy is good but you shouldn't deprive yourself. Lighter weights and more reps is very vague. Dynamic stretching before a working, static stretching after. Total protein for the day/week matters way more than rushing to have some protein following a workout.

 

Yeah I do dynamic stretches pre workout (squats, lunges with weights, etc) and static after. I'm trying to cut out the white rice and potatoes because they break down into sugars easier and I'm trying to get back to the lean phase. I'm not at the point yet where I can eat anything unfortunately, I wish though. I agree about depriving though, I'm trying to eat & snack all throughout the day now but just with healthier options.

[L54]

lol how did we end up here.

 

anyway, I'm too lazy to google this so since I'm here..

 

what if I want to lose fat but gain/maintain muscle at the same time?

 

I've been working out for 2 years now, and it's obvious I've gained muscle, but I can't seem to get rid of that belly fat that is hiding all my abs. I've recently started running the eliptical, burning about 600 calories per week ( I can do more) but I feel like I'm going nowhere. Perhaps my diet is the culprit

 

My guess is that either a) your workouts have become stagnant in that you repeatedly do the same type of workouts (I'm not even a big believer in "muscle confusion" or "tricking the body" but there IS something to be said for it) or you have hit a plateau and aren't continually increasing your weights. You need to continue to add more resistance to your lifts.

 

I've learned a lot from my schooling, but probably more just from reading research articles and websites like bodybuilding.com. They have so much free information there (almost like fangraphs!). If you're interested in learning for yourself, I would suggest surfing it for a bit and seeing what you can find. You can find recipes, workouts (goal specific), etc.

 

Tldr; continually increase your weights in the gym, track your macros (fats, proteins and carbs), keep track of your lifts, and get a partner to hold you accountable, along with being a spotter so you can work til fatigue.

[TwistedLogic]

Truth is hard to take. Those who honestly state it are often persecuted

 

What a f***ing messiah you are. You literally said that AA spent 3M on Belisario (nearly twice as much). Such undeniable truth.

 

God damned idiot.

 

Possible there was something in his physical that threw up a red flag or was not right.

 

Makes no sense on a minor league deal. Had to have fallen through on Belisario's side.

[Spanky99]

leemarvin

 

I knew I was forgetting a longtime alias.

 

vern_wells , all kinds.

[Brownie19]

Brewers sign Neal Cotts to 1/$3M. AA spent that much today on nothing. Could have had a proven reliever.

 

Cotts 2014 - 3.58 FIP and 3.86 xFIP

Belisario 2014 - 3.54 FIP and 3.69 xFIP

 

Only think AA missed out on was wasting more money on Cotts on a guaranteed deal.

[HERPDERP]

My guess is that either a) your workouts have become stagnant in that you repeatedly do the same type of workouts (I'm not even a big believer in "muscle confusion" or "tricking the body" but there IS something to be said for it) or you have hit a plateau and aren't continually increasing your weights. You need to continue to add more resistance to your lifts.

 

I've learned a lot from my schooling, but probably more just from reading research articles and websites like bodybuilding.com. They have so much free information there (almost like fangraphs!). If you're interested in learning for yourself, I would suggest surfing it for a bit and seeing what you can find. You can find recipes, workouts (goal specific), etc.

 

Tldr; continually increase your weights in the gym, track your macros (fats, proteins and carbs), keep track of your lifts, and get a partner to hold you accountable, along with being a spotter so you can work til fatigue.

 

Yeah I've actually hit a plateau for quite awhile now, and I've been aware of it and trying to fix it gradually.

 

When I do dumbell presses for example I started out with 25's, and now I'm on 35's for a few months now. Only 10 reps. Would you consider increasing to 40's and only doing 5 reps as an increase? I really try to push myself harder each session but my muscles just can't deal with the increase and I have to end up doing drop sets

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Yeah I've actually hit a plateau for quite awhile now, and I've been aware of it and trying to fix it gradually.

 

When I do dumbell presses for example I started out with 25's, and now I'm on 35's for a few months now. Only 10 reps. Would you consider increasing to 40's and only doing 5 reps as an increase? I really try to push myself harder each session but my muscles just can't deal with the increase and I have to end up doing drop sets

 

Why are you doing 10 reps? If you can do 10 reps of anything you are clearly strong enough to increase your weight. Always max out at least once or twice a week with your chest. If you can put 1-2 reps of 55-60 during your next workout that is a huge step forward. You'll be using the big boy weights in no time.

[L54]

What do you guys use for supplements? I take a vita stack, amino acids (during workout), and whey protein/glutamine smoothie (post workout). I think those 4 are vital but any other recommendations?

 

I'm going for a lean look instead of mass so I do lighter weights and more reps. I stretch for 5min, jump on a bike to get the heart rate up for 5min then 45min freeweights and 30mins cardio (15min each machine). I heard this was the optimum workout, I also alternate my cardio program with swimming every other workout so I don't get bored.

 

In my diet I do the standard lean meats, fruits, veggies, tuna, eggs, walnuts, raisins, etc. I cut out white potato and white rice, I only use sweet potato/squash & brown rice for my complex carbs.

 

I'm trying to drink a s*** ton of water & do walking, yoga/meditation on my off days. Of course I fall off huge if I go drinking with friends and eat tons of s*** food or slip up from time to time with my diet during the wk but for the most part I try to stick to this.

 

Does anyone have any more advice they can give about diet/routine? I really want to get ripped by the summer. I used to be cut but I've slipped huge the last few yrs so I'm looking to get it back without cheating (juicing). I'm looking for any advantage that's all natural.

 

I'm basically an amino acids, creatine and protein guy. Coffee before my workout (even though it's disgusting). Supplements are only that- supplements to your diet (which sounds like you do a good job of). They aren't miracle workers, so I tend to not rely too heavy on them. They're expensive, especially for me as a uni student.

 

My biggest thing is making sure you follow your macro nutriets (proteins, fats, carbs), making sure you're around your targets daily. A simple google search will show you how to calculate this on your own (it's not very hard, and there might even be one that does it for you). Understanding your BMR (google this as well) and how many calories you should be intaking each day is also key.

 

Lastly, I would suggest shifting away from lighter weights more reps unless you're injured or just looking to maintain. If not, I'd try and be anywhere from 6-10 reps per set of your lifts. One of the the biggest secrets to fat loss (and keeping it off) is adding muscle mass.

[Candy Maldonado]

Yeah I do dynamic stretches pre workout (squats, lunges with weights, etc) and static after. I'm trying to cut out the white rice and potatoes because they break down into sugars easier and I'm trying to get back to the lean phase. I'm not at the point yet where I can eat anything unfortunately, I wish though. I agree about depriving though, I'm trying to eat & snack all throughout the day now but just with healthier options.

 

Vitamins, protein and BCAAs are not necessary if your diet is complete. I take vitamins and protein because I eat a lot of garbage and not enough vegetables. I don't even bother with BCAAs, you get enough of that if your diet is high in protein.

[L54]

Yeah I've actually hit a plateau for quite awhile now, and I've been aware of it and trying to fix it gradually.

 

When I do dumbell presses for example I started out with 25's, and now I'm on 35's for a few months now. Only 10 reps. Would you consider increasing to 40's and only doing 5 reps as an increase? I really try to push myself harder each session but my muscles just can't deal with the increase and I have to end up doing drop sets

 

Progressive overload: so if you're doing 35lbs x 10 reps = 350 lbs of weight moved. In order to move past this plateau, you need to move more weight period. For example, if you were to simply change routine to 40 lbs x 9 reps, that = 360 lbs of weight moved. Obviously this is a small increase, but it's crucial to continue to move increase these numbers in order to break plateau, and reach your goals.

[KingKat]

Makes no sense on a minor league deal. Had to have fallen through on Belisario's side.

 

I don't know about that. MiLB contracts still involve an investment in money and time. If the physical is such that you have no faith the player can contribute, you move on. There's only so much money to go around and more critically there are only so many spring training innings and MiLB innings to go around. There are still a lot of relievers out there that could be auditioning for a spot besides Belisario.

[baubau]

Vitamins, protein and BCAAs are not necessary if your diet is complete. I take vitamins and protein because I eat a lot of garbage and not enough vegetables. I don't even bother with BCAAs, you get enough of that if your diet is high in protein.

 

I was the same but I found a good way to mix in your veggies is with a smoothie. Put in kale, spinach, leek, celery, carrots, or what ever you'd like and then put in some frozen fruits like mixed berries, mango, banana, pineapple. Put in some Greek yogurt, almond milk, flex seeds, macha powder and what ever to balance the flavor/texture. Its comes out pretty good and don't taste the veggies as much.

[TwistedLogic]

I don't know about that. MiLB contracts still involve an investment in money and time. If the physical is such that you have no faith the player can contribute, you move on. There's only so much money to go around and more critically there are only so many spring training innings and MiLB innings to go around. There are still a lot of relievers out there that could be auditioning for a spot besides Belisario.

 

a) This is now moot, because as I read the rest of the thread, it was confirmed that it did fall through on Belisairo's side

 

There's absolutely no lack of minor league innings, that's a pretty outrageous remark. Minor league salaries are next to nothing, if Belisario was weak in spring training or something popped up on his physical, they could just relegate him to the minors on a low contract that costs them very little and gives them a very strong depth option.

 

No team will ever pull out of a minor league deal, unless the guaranteed major league portion is very high (in this case, it wasn't).

[jays76]

I'm basically an amino acids, creatine and protein guy. Coffee before my workout (even though it's disgusting). Supplements are only that- supplements to your diet (which sounds like you do a good job of). aren't miracle workers, so I tend to not rely too heavy on them. They're expensive, especially for me as a uni student.

 

My biggest thing is making sure you follow your macro nutriets (proteins, fats, carbs), making sure you're around your targets daily. A simple google search will show you how to calculate this on your own (it's not very hard, and there might even be one that does it for you). Understanding your BMR (google this as well) and how many calories you should be intaking each day is also key.

 

Lastly, I would suggest shifting away from lighter weights more reps unless you're injured or just looking to maintain. If not, I'd try and be anywhere from 6-10 reps per set of your lifts. One of the the biggest secrets to fat loss (and keeping it off) is adding muscle mass.

 

Thanks for the tips, yeah supplements can be crazy expensive! I don't really keep track of my daily calorie intake or tabs on my macro so I'll try to monitor that more and I'll research the BMR. I do 16 reps and try to increase the weight on my last set to max out, that might be a mistake however so I appreciate your info.

 

I can't believe you drink coffee before your workouts, you must be bouncing off walls!!