SAAviour Verified Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 you've flip flopped so many times but you do it so subtly it's brilliant lol I've only truly almost lost faith last season around the trade deadline...for the most part...kind of.
closetjaysfan Verified Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Gibbons gets fired before AA does. Touch and go managers are job insurance for GMs.
CrackerJack Verified Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Gibbons gets fired before AA does. Touch and go managers are job insurance for GMs. not the boldest prediction ... I like Gibbons but can't think of any scenario how he could outlast Alex.
closetjaysfan Verified Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 not the boldest prediction ... I like Gibbons but can't think of any scenario how he could outlast Alex. It is a cheap answer to the OP's question: firing Gibbons buys AA another season. 2016 will be the real question mark. All it will take is for the new president and AA to bonk heads.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2015 Author Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) Alex has a chance. Winz, winz and more wins. http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/5411.png&w=350&h=254 3 Winz http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/6390.png&w=350&h=254 4 Winz http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/5890.png&w=350&h=254 5.3 Winz http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/5904.png&w=350&h=254 3.6 Winz http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/29563.png&w=350&h=254 5.6 Winz http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/29505.png&w=350&h=254 1.8 Winz http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/30175.png&w=350&h=254 1 Winz http://cdn-png.si.com/sites/default/files/teams/baseball/mlb/players/549230-328x278.png 0 Winz http://www.milb.com/images/592647/t424/180x270/592647.jpg 0.3 Winz Edited January 28, 2015 by Angrioter
Zaun of the Dead Verified Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 if they don't make the postseason, he will be fired for sure.
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Alex has a chance. Winz, winz and more wins. http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/29563.png&w=350&h=254 5.6 Winz Guys... JOSH DONALDSON IS A BLUE JAY!
glory Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 If the Jays are below .500 in late-May, I'm willing to bet DeMarlo Hale will be managing from June-onwards. AA won't be fired mid-season. They'll wait until the end of the year, if anything.
jays76 Verified Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 I have to agree with the majority that it's playoffs or bust obviously for AA but what I'm wondering is how much this pressure will effect his decisions, I wonder if he and Beeston will go all out to make the playoffs this year. Maybe this trade deadline they're going to be really active since it's their final year together and will go balls out. Or who knows maybe Rogers will neuter them and put the clamps down since they know there's a pending regime shift. It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes down this year but I hope the FO inner politics won't get in the way..
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 He took over a really s***** situation and turned it around pretty fast ( to only s*** it down the toilet with a couple moves). I don't know, he's not perfect but i really liked what he did when he first took over and it seems like he listens to the analytic guys more now. This has been a pretty awesome off season. I'd like to see if he continues this going forward. He was able to trade Vernon Wells and that contract, take the 27th best farm system in baseball to a top 5 system in a matter of 2 years and he got us Josh Donaldson! We should all have sore knees and jaws~!
TheHurl Site Manager Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 He was able to trade Vernon Wells and that contract, take the 27th best farm system in baseball to a top 5 system in a matter of 2 years and he got us Josh Donaldson! We should all have sore knees and jaws~! Turns out though he didn't call about Wells, all he had to do is pick up the phone. Same with Lawrie. The Halladay trade was a key in landing him the top 5 farm. In the same way with one trade the Mets moved from a bottom 10 farm to top 10. I'll never rip AA for his drafting, with the exception of his pitcher to hitter ratio (and when he does draft hitters he seldom looks beyond ceiling). Okay so I'll never rip the Jays for the pitching they have drafted.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 If the Jays are below .500 in late-May, I'm willing to bet DeMarlo Hale will be managing from June-onwards. AA won't be fired mid-season. They'll wait until the end of the year, if anything. I honestly can't see this happening unless injuries happen
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Guys... JOSH DONALDSON IS A BLUE JAY! http://i.gyazo.com/6de6806f9ca80a35ae37133d357bb152.png http://lenoirauteur.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/yaaaas.gif
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 http://i.gyazo.com/6de6806f9ca80a35ae37133d357bb152.png http://lenoirauteur.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/yaaaas.gif Positional depth is looking pretty decent this year. Obviously 2B is still trash but every other position has a good depth option in the case of an injury. I'm still slightly worried about the rotation and bullpen though. I think we could use 1 more starter and a reliever or two
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 That's not enough proof he's a Jay. You can just photoshop s*** on that depth chart. I still can't believe, and don't believe, he's a Jay.
BTS Community Moderator Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Positional depth is looking pretty decent this year. Obviously 2B is still trash but every other position has a good depth option in the case of an injury. I'm still slightly worried about the rotation and bullpen though. I think we could use 1 more starter and a reliever or two The OF is a concern. If Pompey sucks, Pillar plays everyday. If Pompey sucks AND Bautista/Saunders miss time...
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Positional depth is looking pretty decent this year. Obviously 2B is still trash but every other position has a good depth option in the case of an injury. I'm still slightly worried about the rotation and bullpen though. I think we could use 1 more starter and a reliever or two OF is a little worrisome I would say. Saunders would be pretty bad in CF if Pompey falters/gets hurt.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 The OF is a concern. If Pompey sucks, Pillar plays everyday. If Pompey sucks AND Bautista/Saunders miss time... damn just beat me to it.
baubau Verified Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 The OF is a concern. If Pompey sucks, Pillar plays everyday. If Pompey sucks AND Bautista/Saunders miss time... Jays signed Dirks. Chances are he'd play ahead of Pillar, no? Pompey could suck offensively, absolutely, but think his defense is good enough for him to at least have a Gose-like contribution.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Yeah the OF depth is pretty mediocre, but I feel a bit better about it after they re-signed Dirks. Colabello is probably garbage in OF, but he could probably man it for a few games in the most desperate situations as well.
BTS Community Moderator Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Jays signed Dirks. Chances are he'd play ahead of Pillar, no? Pompey could suck offensively, absolutely, but think his defense is good enough for him to at least have a Gose-like contribution. Can Dirks even run anymore?
baubau Verified Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Can Dirks even run anymore? He did have rehab assignments after his surgery in Class A last year, so yes. I'd imagine our medical staff is comfortable enough with his health and being the backup OF the Jays won't be putting much strain on his body. He should be capable of playing playing a short period of time should injuries arise, but I can certainly understand the concern of him being broken out of the gate.
BTS Community Moderator Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 He did have rehab assignments after his surgery in Class A last year, so yes. I'd imagine our medical staff is comfortable enough with his health and being the backup OF the Jays won't be putting much strain on his body. He should be capable of playing playing a short period of time should injuries arise, but I can certainly understand the concern of him being broken out of the gate. He certainly could be good, but I'm expecting nothing from him. He was already a guy who lived on the margins with a league-average bat and questionable defense. If the defense isn't close to average, he's worthless, and I'm not comfortable betting on his D at 29 coming back from disc surgery.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 He certainly could be good, but I'm expecting nothing from him. He was already a guy who lived on the margins with a league-average bat and questionable defense. If the defense isn't close to average, he's worthless, and I'm not comfortable betting on his D at 29 coming back from disc surgery. This is a fair concern, but hopefully it hasn't screwed him too hard. If I remember correctly, Headley had a slipped disk in his back and he was the best defender in the majors last year. And yes, I do realize that Dirks is no Headley, lol.
BTS Community Moderator Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 This is a fair concern, but hopefully it hasn't screwed him too hard. If I remember correctly, Headley had a slipped disk in his back and he was the best defender in the majors last year. And yes, I do realize that Dirks is no Headley, lol. We'll know soon enough. Dirks is probably going to be somewhere in the vicinity of average offensively, so if he looks spry out of spring you keep him. If he plays the OF like 2013 Melky you abandon ship with the quickness.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2015 Author Posted January 28, 2015 PECOTA: Jays 83 Winzz Russell Martin: Projected to a 2.7 WAR, hitting .237/.335/.388 with 17 home runs in 595 plate appearances. A bit of a drop from his .290/.402/.430 line from last year. I'd put money down on Martin having a slugging average over .400. Thole only gets 32 PA. Justin Smoak: Projected to a 0 WAR, hitting .236/.328/.401 with 16 home runs in 484 PA. I'd like to think that if he hits that badly it won't get 484 PA. Ryan Goins: Projected to a 0.2 WAR, hitting .243/.277/.342 with 5 home runs in 452 PA, getting the lion's share of the time at second base. I don't see that happening either. Is it wrong that I look at the .243 BA and think, I'd be very happy with that. Of course, I'd be happier if he would get on base more, unfortunately, I don't expect him to. Devon Travis gets 60 PA and a .261/.314/.405 line. Josh Donaldson: Projected to a 4.2 WAR, hitting .263/.342/.465 with 25 home runs in 604 PA. That's quite a drop from his 6.7 WAR of last year. It's worth noting that PECOTA also gives Brett Lawrie a 4.2 WAR. I'd bet that Donaldson finishes with a better WAR than Brett. Jose Reyes: Projected to a 2.9 WAR, hitting .286/.333/.422, with 29 stolen bases, in 651 PA. Nice that they figure a pretty much injury free season. Michael Saunders: Projected to a 2.0 WAR, hitting .236/.318/.396 with 15 home runs in 364 PA. Dalton Pompey: Projected to a 0.4 WAR, hitting .234/.301/.349 with 8 home runs, in 515 PA. Jose Bautista: Projected to a 5.0 WAR, hitting .263/.381/.522 with 37 home runs in 647 PA. A very nice season, I'll take that. Edwin Encarnacion: Projected to a 3.0 WAR, hitting .263/.347/.492 with 31 home runs in 620 PA. They have him playing 65% of the time at DH and 20% at first base. I don't know where the other 15% will come from. Dioner Navarro: Projected to a 0.3 WAR, hitting .258/.318/.393 in 138 PA. I'd have to think he'll get to bat more if he is on the team. Kevin Pillar: Projected to a 0.9 WAR, hitting .268/.302/.405 in 329 PA. R.A. Dickey: 1.4 WAR, 15-12, 3.99 ERA. Mark Buehrle: 0.2 WAR, 12-13, 4.50 ERA. and he pitches 229 innings. Drew Hutchison: 1.2 WAR, 10-9, 4.03. I'm taking the over on the WAR. Marco Estrada: 0.9 WAR, 11-10, 4.19. PECOTA has him making 28 starts....I'll take the under, I very much doubt he gets 28 starts. . Marcus Stroman: 2.1 WAR, 9-7. 3.48 in 24 starts, 137 innings.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Ang, you should source the comments as being from Bluebird Banter. The Devon Travis line is great. If he can play good defense, that's an average regular or better.
JFD Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 if he doesn't fix the BP it will be.
CaptMurphy Verified Member Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 AA isn't a good GM, he has a tendency towards extremes. He either gets huge talent for a position, or gets nothing at all. The whole organization is rudderless though. No goals, no direction, and while AA is part of the problem, he is not the only one that needs to go. The Blue Jays are drifting into Leafs territory when it comes to poor leadership and organization of a professional sports franchise.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted March 24, 2015 Author Posted March 24, 2015 BUMP The clock still running in reverse to Alex and his friend Gibbons. Alex knows that this could be his last chance to stay in the GM spot, therefore, he's putting all the eggs in one basket. The Sanchez, Norris, Castro and Travs day-1 indicate despair by part of this FO. Hire veterans for one season could be a good idea, and those young guys developing in the minors for the second half of the season. Great job with the farm, good contract extensions, change the ugly jersey, but 21 years without playing a single playoff game is long long time. It's quite possible, in 2016 we will have a duo like Stewart-LaRussa, baseball guys who knows very well the game, and Brandon Phillips "f*** OBP" philosophy will be our motto.
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