Blue Jays seeking replacement for Beeston

[Angrioter]

Dan Szymborski

O's could get Sanchez and Norris and Pompey for Duquette and it would stink when Malone or Towers trade them for Andre Ethier or something.

 

[flafson]

Dan Szymborski

O's could get Sanchez and Norris and Pompey for Duquette and it would stink when Malone or Towers trade them for Andre Ethier or something.

 

 

I'm not paying that even if it was for Billiy Beane and Joe Madden.

[GD]

I'm not paying that even if it was for Billiy Beane and Joe Madden.

 

That's kind of interesting, actually. Wonder what comp for Beane would look like considering what some of the studies done have showed.

[flafson]

[jays76]

Yeah but if they make the playoffs and DD comes he still probably won't be here for longer. DD probably has a huge ego and will want to do the GM duties himself.

 

Would really be interesting to see what transpires next off season, either way it would be a win/win scenario having DD on board and AA orchestrating a playoff run.

[burlingtonbandit]

Would really be interesting to see what transpires next off season, either way it would be a win/win scenario having DD on board and AA orchestrating a playoff run.

 

The thing is DD is probably coming as the CEO because they need him to have that job title as a "promotion" when really he is coming to be the General Manager. Does DD even have business experience to run an organization as big as the Blue Jays?

[flafson]

I just thought of a good comparable to this situation.

In CFL, when a player wants to tryout for the NFL, they always let them go even though they are under contract.

[jays76]

 

This is really dragging. It seems Angelos is really being petulant about this, even after all the potential smoke screens to drive up compensation, etc. I think he's truly irate about this.. I can't wait til it's finally settled, I don't know how much of a factor it really has on these teams making outside moves but transactions for the Jays & O's seem to be completely shut down since this was first announced 5wks ago.

[jays76]

The thing is DD is probably coming as the CEO because they need him to have that job title as a "promotion" when really he is coming to be the General Manager. Does DD even have business experience to run an organization as big as the Blue Jays?

 

Good question but then again could he really be worse than Beeston.

[Orioles]

 

I hope this ends soon.

[Orioles]

Buster Olney ✔ @Buster_ESPN

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Have heard this from other teams: Why is MLB pushing Toronto's pursuit of Dan Duquette, who is under contract with the Orioles?

[GD]

Buster Olney ✔ @Buster_ESPN

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Have heard this from other teams: Why is MLB pushing Toronto's pursuit of Dan Duquette, who is under contract with the Orioles?

 

Because they realize it's hella stoopid to stop your employee from pursuing a promotion?

[flafson]

Buster Olney ✔ @Buster_ESPN

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Have heard this from other teams: Why is MLB pushing Toronto's pursuit of Dan Duquette, who is under contract with the Orioles?

 

I understand that he has a contract, but there is an unwritten rule that you let people go without compensation (in sports) for a promotion. PA refuses.

Having said that, if indeed Ed Rogers is going behind the back of everyone stirring things up, that's not cool.

 

BTW, to post a tweet, you need to type [-t-w-e-e-t]tweet number[/-t-w-e-e-t] just without the dashes.

[Orioles]

Because they realize it's hella stoopid to stop your employee from pursuing a promotion?

 

It needs to end soon. One way or another.

[Stangstag]

It needs to end soon. One way or another.

 

100% agree. This has been drawn out for too long and its not fair to Orioles fans

[jaysfan2014]

I understand that he has a contract, but there is an unwritten rule that you let people go without compensation (in sports) for a promotion. PA refuses.

Having said that, if indeed Ed Rogers is going behind the back of everyone stirring things up, that's not cool.

 

BTW, to post a tweet, you need to type [-t-w-e-e-t]tweet number[/-t-w-e-e-t] just without the dashes.

 

Plus, it's likely MLB doesn't exactly want to do favors for Peter Angelos and the O's right now due to the MASN situation.

[burlingtonbandit]

Good question but then again could he really be worse than Beeston.

 

I think the question would be could he be worse than AA. Which my reply would be yes considering how well AA built up the farm system.

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Buster Olney ✔ @Buster_ESPN

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Have heard this from other teams: Why is MLB pushing Toronto's pursuit of Dan Duquette, who is under contract with the Orioles?

 

1) Beeston isn't liked by everyone...

 

2) MLB wants to show that they are supportive of individuals who strive for promotion. There is no anti-Orioles bias here. Angelos is forcing MLB's hand to get involved by being stubborn.

 

3) Dan Duquette wants to come and has all but said this on record. MLB knows this and wants to ensure there are no road blocks for individuals like this

[Orioles]

1) Beeston isn't liked by everyone...

 

2) MLB wants to show that they are supportive of individuals who strive for promotion. There is no anti-Orioles bias here. Angelos is forcing MLB's hand to get involved by being stubborn.

 

3) Dan Duquette wants to come and has all but said this on record. MLB knows this and wants to ensure there are no road blocks for individuals like this

 

Offer something good and you can have him.

[Chappy]

Offer something good and you can have him.

 

What a pathetic mindset. Any organization that stands in the way of their employees trying to better themselves is a joke. Either offer him an incentive to stay or let him go. As much as I love what AA has done this winter, if another team offered him a promotion, I would hope the Jays organization wouldn't stand in the way. Just seems so petty.

[CrackerJack]

Offer something good and you can have him.

 

Cito for DD.

[L54]

Offer something good and you can have him.

 

Such a childish mindset.

 

You just replied to a post that essentially proved your rationale as incorrect, with the logic of a 5 year old.

[TwistedLogic]

Offer something good and you can have him.

 

How much did the Jays ask for when your beloved Orioles asked them for permission to speak with Tony LaCava, while he was still under contract with the Toronto Blue Jays?

 

The answer to that question is strikingly similar to the amount of credibility Orioles fans have when making demands about compensation.

[Orioles]

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 28m28 minutes ago

MLB believes this is a club issue. If Angelos takes hard line, unlikely that MLB forces Orioles to release Duquette from contract.

[GD]

Backing out of deals after completion, not allowing their employees to pursue better opportunities, boy, Orioles sure are an attractive organization.

[L54]

Backing out of deals after completion, not allowing their employees to pursue better opportunities, boy, Orioles sure are an attractive organization.

 

Good thing "Orioles" is here to protect the integrity of the org.

[L54]

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 28m28 minutes ago

MLB believes this is a club issue. If Angelos takes hard line, unlikely that MLB forces Orioles to release Duquette from contract.

 

It's going to be hilarious when DD finds a way himself to get out of this abortion of a situation, and the O's hire Kevin Towers.

[Chappy]

Good luck trying to lure top execs in the future.

[Orioles]

I have no problem with DD leaving but the way Toronto and DD handled it - talking without permission IMO - leaking it before the winter meetings, etc.

[L54]

I have no problem with DD leaving but the way Toronto and DD handled it - talking without permission IMO - leaking it before the winter meetings, etc.

 

Is there any evidence of this being Toronto's doing? I'm genuinely unaware of it if there is.