Braves Hire Kevin Seitzer

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

Melky is gone next. We also won't sign anyone this offseason.

 

AA will then once again trot out the money excuse when a.) he failed with an $130 million budget, and b.) nobody believes it because of how much money Rogers spent on NHL rights.

[Chappy]

It is for the soul fact that they weren't able to come to terms with a hitting coach. That's pretty sad.

 

No it isn't. Perhaps his demands were unreasonable and they didn't feel he was worth it. He should be more embarrassed that the Jays chose to let him go.

[Angrioter]

This is really not a big deal.

 

Read between the lines bro.

No dinero Papi!!

[Angrioter]

I am really okay with not paying a hitting coach what was likely excessive demands.

 

Buehrle for Profar/Odor?

http://www.lonestarball.com/2014/10/27/7078057/mark-buehrle-texas-rangers-potential-offseason-acquisition

[KingKat]

No it isn't. Perhaps his demands were unreasonable and they didn't feel he was worth it. He should be more embarrassed that the Jays chose to let him go.

 

Except that they didn't let him go. As far as we known, the Jays weren't pursuing other options. He wasn't happy with the way negotiations were going and he shopped his services. I'd really like to know how unreasonable his demands really were. Apparently, he wasn't so unreasonable that he couldn't find agreement with another team (and not an especially spend crazy team either). This just seems silly. If you like Seitzer enough to pursue him, if he's the guy you want in the position, just lock him up already. I really have a hard time believing the money was that outrageous.

[kgm1]

Seitzer leaves, chances are Jays fans choice for a job with the team (Molitor) is going to get a managers job in Minny. I sense a PR batting instructor signing now. Maybe as big a name as Alomar but likely former Gibbons teammate Mookie Wilson. Maybe a bigger name guy like Bichette who isn't affiliated with the team or they jump the Yankees and get Chili Davis.

 

Davis signed with the Red Sox a week or so ago.

 

So much for loyalty. Gibby threw Mottola under the bus after a decent year to hire his buddy from his KC days and Seitzer jumps ship as soon as he can. Couldn't reach a deal ?? WTF I do not think it is a good thing to keep changing coaches .

[burlingtonbandit]

What did he leave over, 80-100k? You'll get a much worse PR hit and people outside the org. thinking its a bad situation then if you just paid an amount that means nothing to an organization as big as the Blue Jays.

[ColdPint]

Davis signed with the Red Sox a week or so ago.

 

So much for loyalty. Gibby threw Mottola under the bus after a decent year to hire his buddy from his KC days and Seitzer jumps ship as soon as he can. Couldn't reach a deal ?? WTF I do not think it is a good thing to keep changing coaches .

 

Agree completely. I would think continuity is pretty important when it comes to hitting coaches as long as they're getting results. The Jays will now be moving to their 4th hitting coach, and hitting philosophy, in the last 4 years.

 

How does this even happen? I've never heard of a team not being able to come to terms with a hitting coach. If he's your "guy" how could there be such a disconnect with salary and terms when there's probably a close to standard pay band for the position?

 

Does this organization care to pay attention at all to optics and reputation? One embarassing situation after another. It's a nice cap to the season that started with the Santana money hat.

[RealAccountant]

Exactly what did Seitzer do to deserve to stay. The jays that had a good offensive years were expected to

 

Those that needed to show improvement didn't. Rasmus Gose Goins all struggled anyways. So good riddance to Switzer

 

Coaches are meaningless anyways

[walkoff93]

He probably wanted a multi-year deal and the Jays were only willing to do 1 year terms with their coaches.

[Laika]

This explains why the Jays were interviewing a hitting coach a few weeks back. Name escapes me.

 

I think it was Domonic Dunne?

[BTS]

Not a big deal, but it says a lot when coaches keep jumping ship. AA is really bad at despairing people.

[LongTimeReader]

Just how cheap is Rogers? Can't even resign their hitting coach? Lol

[baseballsss]

Just how cheap is Rogers? Can't even resign their hitting coach? Lol

 

What does rogers have to do with the mess of a payroll AA made? seriously are you that stupid?

[BTS]

Just how cheap is Rogers? Can't even resign their hitting coach? Lol

 

Pretty sure this is the result of two men digging their feet in the ground and having a dick-measuring contest, and not a result of management going to Rogers with Seitzer's contract and getting turned down.

[LongTimeReader]

What does rogers have to do with the mess of a payroll AA made? seriously are you that stupid?

 

Lol. Someone ban this pissant.

[LunchBox]

If this were an isolated incident it would be irrelevant; however, it's symptomatic of the much larger issue, the utter lack of direction of the FO. Anyone else prepared to follow a more compelling team next year? I'm seeing a lot of different team logo avatars.

[GD]

If this were an isolated incident it would be irrelevant; however, it's symptomatic of the much larger issue, the utter lack of direction of the FO. Anyone else prepared to follow a more compelling team next year? I'm seeing a lot of different team logo avatars.

 

It's for a fantasy league, lol.

[Boxcar]

If this were an isolated incident it would be irrelevant; however, it's symptomatic of the much larger issue, the utter lack of direction of the FO. Anyone else prepared to follow a more compelling team next year? I'm seeing a lot of different team logo avatars.

 

Those are due to the dynasty league that we recently formed. Most exciting team to follow these days is probably the Cubs, can't wait to see their offseason.

[LunchBox]

It's for a fantasy league, lol.

 

BTS' Dodgers logo really sold the ship-jumping possibility, it was the only reasonable conclusion really lol

[GD]

BTS' Dodgers logo really sold the ship-jumping possibility, it was the only reasonable conclusion really lol

 

Ok that one isn't for the league lol (although he chose them in said league). But I had the Rockies and Boxy, Abom, JFaS, North?, and others have all changed.

[Kelly Gruber]

Exactly what did Seitzer do to deserve to stay. The jays that had a good offensive years were expected to

 

Those that needed to show improvement didn't. Rasmus Gose Goins all struggled anyways. So good riddance to Switzer

 

Coaches are meaningless anyways

 

This might kill two birds with one stone. Get a sexy new hitting coach. Have him work with goins all offseason. Second base / shortstop solved as goins hits over .300 next year.

 

We still have cito gaston on payroll. Search complete!!!

[flafson]

How the hell do you fail to extend a hitting coach? Something is really off with our team.

[glory]

We will change hitting coaches every year until someone can turn Goins into a good hitter.

[Kelly Gruber]

Fool proof plan.

 

Why'd you change accounts Gruber?

 

This is my only account. Don't post often, mostly just a forum reader.

[Pulk_Pull]

While this may be 'no big deal', a trend I have noticed in Toronto sports that may be contributing to their inability to grow season over season is a lack of continuity.

 

A lineup that has some of the pieces to be a top 5 lineup in the AL will now be taught by different hitting coach in 3 consecutive years. Understanding that coaches only impact a small portion of the way players approach the plate, the inability to get comfortable with one system or one approach from your hitting coach must be annoying and slightly disruptive to the team, no?

 

It's these small moves that seem to pile up over the offseason for the Jays that end up setting them 5 steps back before the season even starts.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

While this may be 'no big deal', a trend I have noticed in Toronto sports that may be contributing to their inability to grow season over season is a lack of continuity.

 

The problem with the Jays isn't a "lack of continuity," it's too much continuity for people who haven't earned it. Beeston should have been gone years ago, AA should have been fired after last year, and there was no reason to bring back Gibbons in the first place let alone keep him after last year. Yet they all keep their jobs regardless of the product on the field because Rogers is clueless, tonedeaf, and apathetic.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Why do we not hire whoever is Edwin's, Bautista's or Cano's hitting coach ?

 

Who are thier guys or guy?

[G-Snarls]

So... Cito for hitting coach?

[G-Snarls]

Why do we not hire whoever is Edwin's, Bautista's or Cano's hitting coach ?

 

Who are thier guys or guy?

 

Luis Mercedes

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mercelu01.shtml