Offseason roster thread 2014

[GD]

Around this time last year I was clamoring pretty hard for a Rasmus extension and a 3-year Infante deal, and s***ing on the idea of signing Santana. Oops.

 

I was doing all of these things. Except I was OK with a 4-year Infante deal.

 

I was with JFaS on dealing Rasmus, but I really wanted Infante. Dunno how much I posted about it, but I also kinda wanted Garza lol.

[glory]

That's your take man, yer dumn in my eyes. As I see value in both ballplayers as I've said all along, big risk with Pompey, I'll agree Rasmus should've been moved last year, especially when you sit him for a month?

 

If the Jays signed Everth Cabrera, and he put up a 3 WAR in 2015, do you keep him or trade him the following winter? If you keep him, then I completely disagree with you. Players like that, you get whatever value you can, and then cut bait. I'm not even using hindsight. I wanted the Jays to trade Rasmus last winter, and I was fully on board with the Lawrie+prospects for Donaldson swap that the Moogster suggested prior to the off-season (still can't believe it actually happened).

 

Like I said, it's not always the case, as some times players just need a change of scenary, but in the case of the players AA acquired for 50 cents on the dollar....there were clearly reasons they were available for that cheap. And we're seeing why. You don't count on them. You get value, and then sell high.

[Spanky99]

If the Jays signed Everth Cabrera, and he put up a 3 WAR in 2015, do you keep him or trade him the following winter? If you keep him, then I completely disagree with you. Players like that, you get whatever value you can, and then cut bait. I'm not even using hindsight. I wanted the Jays to trade Rasmus last winter, and I was fully on board with the Lawrie+prospects for Donaldson swap that the Moogster suggested prior to the off-season (still can't believe it actually happened).

 

Like I said, it's not always the case, as some times players just need a change of scenary, but in the case of the players AA acquired for 50 cents on the dollar....there were clearly reasons they were available for that cheap. And we're seeing why. You don't count on them. You get value, and then sell high.

 

I'm not going to bother hit trades, lol...yet I feel the finest and give great love to the East.

[TwistedLogic]

I was with JFaS on dealing Rasmus, but I really wanted Infante. Dunno how much I posted about it, but I also kinda wanted Garza lol.

 

Oh yes, Garza was probably my top pick for an SP off the market, though he did pretty well last year so I'm not ashamed of that. I'm also pretty proud of how hard I shat on Butler and Ubaldo, since both guys were garbage, and my support for a Jeff Baker signing, who continued to destroy LHP as expected.

 

Still, the Rasmus and Infante moves would have been terrible, would have probably outweighed any other good you could have done in that offseason, and probably would have stood in the way of the Donaldson and Martin acquisitions, so I readily bow my head for those hideous calls.

[TwistedLogic]

Also, I apologize for this but I can't get enough, lmao

 

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[Orgfiller]

The shift one is facepalm worthy. Maybe we should eliminate bunting too since it makes pitchers have to move.

[BTS]

I was with JFaS on dealing Rasmus, but I really wanted Infante. Dunno how much I posted about it, but I also kinda wanted Garza lol.

 

I didn't want Garza, and I made several hundred posts about how bad an idea Ubaldo was. If I were GM Rasmus would be locked in for 3 more years at $10-15 M per, and the fans would all want me fired though.

[GD]

I didn't want Garza, and I made several hundred posts about how bad an idea Ubaldo was. If I were GM Rasmus would be locked in for 3 more years at $10-15 M per, and the fans would all want me fired though.

 

Sanchez probably would've been dealt, Garza and Infante probably would've been locked up, and Rasmus would probably have returned a really good asset if I had been GM. Kind of a mixed bag.

[Spanky99]

Why jump to other Oriole sites, seeing we know of terrible Blue Jay sites, seems redundant, no?

[King]

Which is worse - O's hangout or MLB.com BJMB?

[Spanky99]

Sheeeeeit, I'm down.

[Deadpool]

Question though; how would you know what a "tumblr guy" would seem like?

 

http://cdn0.dailydot.com/uploaded/images/original/2014/7/13/ballpit.jpg

[flafson]

O's being the Oakland A's of the East boggled me for a few days now... I understand they don't have Yankees money but did they forget we have the Rays in the division?

[Atothe]

Which is worse - O's hangout or MLB.com BJMB?

 

Orioles hang out is at least entertaining, Orioles hang out>>>>>>> BJMB

[Angrioter]

The O's, the new Red Sox for me.

 

Odio ese equipo de mierda. f*** you DD

[Terminator]

I didn't want Garza, and I made several hundred posts about how bad an idea Ubaldo was. If I were GM Rasmus would be locked in for 3 more years at $10-15 M per, and the fans would all want me fired though.

 

Haha nice.

 

If I were the GM Chone Figgins would just now be entering the final years of his contract.

[KingKat]

I was on the Ubaldo bandwagon. That's the last time I ever listen to Keith Law.

[King]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B74jYwCCAAA2Ue-.jpg

[TheHurl]

Haha nice.

 

If I were the GM Chone Figgins would just now be entering the final years of his contract.

 

and Snider would be entering the first of his post arb years of the Longoria type contract I offered him (the initial one, not the recent Longo contract) and I would have been kicked out of baseball for publicly telling my team to tank in 2010 to pick Anthony Rendon 1st overall. At least I picked the right horse in that race.

[King]

https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich/status/

 

 

lol

[baubau]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B74jYwCCAAA2Ue-.jpg

 

I am going to miss Colby. All the drama with his family, strike outs, changes in his batting stance, ... oh wait, no I am not. f*** Colby and his dad. The turf effected his play/offense as much as social media destroyed Arencibia's career.

[TheHurl]

https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich/status/

 

 

lol

 

I used to get angry when the "good ole Southern boys" would say something about Toronto (often it was ignorant, in this case it's true) but over the years I've realized that it's a good thing that Toronto is so different than the Southern U.S.

[LunchBox]

lol at "I'm not trying to throw rocks here- our pitching staff struggled at times". Indeed, mainly when certain fielders caused them to throw an extra 15 pitches an inning...but the turf brah, can't blame the fielders. Apparently noodle arms aren't specific to throwing baseballs, but also extends to throwing rocks.

[Angrioter]

"Johan Santana presents discomfort in the front of the left shoulder and appears to be ruled out for the remainder of the playoffs."

 

lol

[Sammy225]

lol at "I'm not trying to throw rocks here- our pitching staff struggled at times". Indeed, mainly when certain fielders caused them to throw an extra 15 pitches an inning...but the turf brah, can't blame the fielders. Apparently noodle arms aren't specific to throwing baseballs, but also extends to throwing rocks.

 

However he is not saying anything that is not true. Everyone knows the turf is hard on a body and our staff did struggle a lot. No issues.

[LongTimeReader]

I am going to miss Colby. All the drama with his family, strike outs, changes in his batting stance, ... oh wait, no I am not. f*** Colby and his dad. The turf effected his play/offense as much as social media destroyed Arencibia's career.

 

I like Colby but I won't miss his inconsistency either.

[LunchBox]

However he is not saying anything that is not true. Everyone knows the turf is hard on a body and our staff did struggle a lot. No issues.

 

Aside from the contradictory nature of his two statements about the effects of the turf on his body, it's not an issue I'm disputing. I do take some issue with the notion that "the pitching staff struggled at times". The starters were good, relievers poor and overall as a staff about average, maybe slightly better. Take into account that the defence owns a share of responsibility for the "struggles" and I'd say it's a reasonable gripe.

[KingKat]

Aside from the contradictory nature of his two statements about the effects of the turf on his body, it's not an issue I'm disputing.

 

The quotes weren't even contradictory. In the first he talks about how quickly the ball gets to you, which is a plus and in the second the talks about the effect on his body, which is a minus. One is the positive spin, the other the negative. Both are true.

[LunchBox]

The quotes weren't even contradictory. In the first he talks about how quickly the ball gets to you, which is a plus and in the second the talks about the effect on his body, which is a minus. One is the positive spin, the other the negative. Both are true.

 

lol fair enough, disingenuous if not contradictory. Again my issue was more so with his comments about the pitching staff than the turf.

[TwistedLogic]

The quotes weren't even contradictory. In the first he talks about how quickly the ball gets to you, which is a plus and in the second the talks about the effect on his body, which is a minus. One is the positive spin, the other the negative. Both are true.

 

This. And it's totally justified too. As bad as he was, he probably feels like the Jays treated him like s*** near the end of his tenure.

 

It's like he was with an ugly fat chick (the Jays) and tried to find any redeemable qualities he could when she (reporters) asked him to compliment her.

 

Now that the fat chick has dumped him, he has free reign to talk as much s*** as he wants about her.