Jays having discussions on Chase Headley

[ElNik2013]

Wouldn't the Pads have to offer him close to 13/14m to get the Compensation pick?

 

My guess with his age, time spent with the Pads & no other offers being close financially he'd re-sign and wipe out the Comp pick.

 

 

 

My thinking as well. Headley's having a down year and has a bad back, I'd take the QO if I were him. On the Padres side, they're rebuilding, I don't see them making the QO.

[jayswin11]

Management said if there was a window to compete they'd do what they needed. This is a pretty big f***ing window if you ask me. I want to win now, not the promise of 5 years from now.

[jayswin11]

If we give up Sanchez, Norris ect, for Price and Zobrist we probably get 2 first round prospect picks when they both leave as FA's after 2015, start the rebuild then.

[ElNik2013]

The leverage the Padres have is in that they can tell a team that if they want him now as opposed to late July, they have to pony up more. This is why the Jays would have to give up more than other teams given how desperate they are.

[ElNik2013]

Hey Padres, take Nay, but throw in Denorfia?

[flafson]

lol, people think it will cost nothing to get Headley. If that was ever the case, why would the Padres not keep him and get guaranteed draft pick compensation instead.

 

If the Jays are on the phone with the Padres, they should be talking about Kennedy first and foremost.

 

If next year he puts up same numbers, he isn't worth more than 5M, do you think SD will risk offering him 14M?

Plus, that QO chance will cost them his salary for the year which is 5M or so. Not worth the gamble for them.

[shortstop]

Exactiy Elk.

 

And imo the jays are or sb offering more than say the day before but padres are holding out...

 

Obv a lot if variables at play including padres run risk no one wants Headley & get less later than anything offered now...

 

Only hope for jays from a leverage standpoint is if over next week, top half of the lineup take over & win ball games ...but if I'm a GM, I don't see much light at the end of this jays tunnel

[GeorgiaPeach]

Management said if there was a window to compete they'd do what they needed. This is a pretty big f***ing window if you ask me. I want to win now, not the promise of 5 years from now.

 

So if you want all the chips pushed in, you won't complain if things get lean for awhile will you?

Edited July 7, 2014 by GeorgiaPeach

[sh3156]

Goodbye Aaron Sanchez.

[G-Snarls]

We need a 3B/2B

 

But I really don't think he's the best (or even second best) option

[sh3156]

So if you want all the chips pushed in, you won't complain if things get lean for awhile will you?

 

I want to destroy fans like those.

 

Why are you taking this so personally

[G-Snarls]

Goodbye Aaron Sanchez.

 

Sanchez should not be required

[L54]

So if you want all the chips pushed in, you won't complain if things get lean for awhile will you?

 

I want to destroy fans like those.

 

So what if he has a different opinion than yours? No need to be so butt hurt.

 

Everyone knows your opinion, doesn't mean they have to agree with it.

[sh3156]

Sanchez not.required

 

You n I both know the sad truth

 

Double A is about to get ripped off

[L54]

You n I both know the sad truth

 

Double A is about to get ripped off

 

I really doubt he trades Sanchez for Headley. I wouldn't worry about that.

[ElNik2013]

We need a 3B/2B

 

But I really don't think he's the best (or even second best) option

 

 

I'd say the team needs a SS. They can play him at 2B for now, but as soon as they can convince Reyes to move off SS, he takes over there. However, I know what you mean.

 

So who's a better option? Remember, being a rental is part of the criteria.

[DH12]

At this point to spend much money on a high profile free agent would be a waste for the Jays because they simply have too many holes to make a run this year.

[G-Snarls]

At this point to spend much money on a high profile free agent would be a waste for the Jays because they simply have too many holes to make a run this year.

 

No they don't. They have two new choices for 4th OF/DH platoon.

 

If they get Prado or Headley the lineup is in good shape once EE and Lawrie are back (fingers crossed that no one else gets hurt)

 

Guys like Rasmus and Cabrera just need to start hitting/ hitting again

[Horses Fart]

No they don't. They have two new choices for 4th OF/DH platoon.

 

If they get Prado or Headley the lineup is in good shape once EE and Lawrie are back (fingers crossed that no one else gets hurt)

 

Guys like Rasmus and Cabrera just need to start hitting/ hitting again

 

 

Good point but our luck once we get the lineup clicking then the pitching will start to go to T total s***. I hope not, I think we have had enuf for now. LoL.

[pickoff22]

No they don't. They have two new choices for 4th OF/DH platoon.

 

If they get Prado or Headley the lineup is in good shape once EE and Lawrie are back (fingers crossed that no one else gets hurt)

 

Guys like Rasmus and Cabrera just need to start hitting/ hitting again

 

This is accurate, especially when you look at the division we're in. Pitching has been surprisingly good. You add Prado and you take a lot of uncertainty out of the everyday lineup because of his versatility. At this stage a bullpen arm and one position player of their caliber puts us in a much better spot. Obviously we'd all love a greater impact guy like Beltre but that's highly unlikely at this stage and the cost would be punitive.

[jays4life19]

Headleys health worries me - especially since he would be moving to turf. He at least has shown he can still play an above average 3rd base - but that would mean Lawrie would have to shift over to second for the rest of the year basically. Too much of a SSS to really say how good of a 2nd base he can play.

 

Headleys BABIP is at a career low at a 268 clip. So i guess there's some hope he can improve on his 84 wRC+. Only way i due a deal though is if we expand the trade to include Ian Kennedy and Chris Denorfia also. This would pretty much fill all our holes.

[Angrioter]

Headley + money for Nolin in 3...2....1

[shortstop]

part of the reason I think the jays should/will go after Headley is the cost to acquire other names being thrown out ie. Hill, Prado...Headley while not ideal fits into very short term rental category, potential upside, switch hitter, solid D & will cost much less in $ terms/prospects...

 

I could see AA go after a name that hasn't been mentioned, a AAAA type player where the cost is very insignificant and might be an upgrade over Tolleson/Kawa...problem with that is jays need a definitive upgrade and stabilizer...even with his woes, Headley's upside is there...

[TheHurl]

It's funny how some fans just assume that a team will lose every game while Lawrie and EE are out. This is still a weak division and should remain that way all season. Headley improves this team...may as well do it depending on the price.

[HERPDERP]

It's funny how some fans just assume that a team will lose every game while Lawrie and EE are out. This is still a weak division and should remain that way all season. Headley improves this team...may as well do it depending on the price.

 

I don't see Baltimore being weak.

[pickoff22]

I don't see Baltimore being weak.

 

They have question marks just like we do. They've been on a nice little run, but as we know too well that doesn't make them a great team. They need some help with their rotation and although they scare me more than the Yankees, I'm not sure a healthy Baltimore is any better than a healthy Toronto.

[shortstop]

O's play at Nationals & home vs Yankees with Tanaka I believe pitching in the first series.

 

Jays play at Angels & Rays, two teams playing well.

 

 

Suspect Jays are hoping Nats get 2 out of 3 and Yanks win at least one. So jays need to go 3-3 to remain 2 games behind going into all-star break.

[shortstop]

sorry that should read Tanaka isn't pitching against the O's..

[TheHurl]

I don't see Baltimore being weak.

 

They have one, maybe two starters I'd trust and they are going to keep him on a pitch count all year. Their top 3 in the pen are all on pace for 75+ innings (Britton on pace for 90) and if they drop back to reality along with the the starters taking a step towards their peripherals (xFIP 4.40) I can see the pitching approaching the worst in the majors. If they stay healthy all year I can see the O's hovering between 2 and 7 games over .500 and that might be good enough to win but this is not a great team. Steve Pearce who I suggested the Jays go for in the off season as he would have been a perfect fit here (only a Davis injury eventually cost him being here, blocking what would have been AA's best move of the season)...but he can't keep hitting righties at this pace (OPS'ing a full 200 points higher than his career rates). Even with a hot Pearce, the O's offense is probably equal with the Jays and without a significant deal their pitching is way behind. There is so little about this team that is legit in my mind.

Edited July 7, 2014 by TheHurl

[TDotttt2005]

I am beginning to think that getting Rogers to free up money is more of an issue at this point than AA being not able to reach a deal on some of these players. I mean, things are obviously snowballing with the injuries, but this team wasnt really hitting before the Lind/Bautista and now Edwing...so you have to think AA has been trying hard for a while now to add to the team. I wonder if they have an agreement on a deal for a guy like Headley, but the hold up is getting SD to put in a few mil to cover the remainder of that contract. Even if its not Headley, specific...does anyone else think that adding to the payroll may be the issue, despite the denials from Beest/AA????