Hutchison is a stud!!

[8D]

velocity was fine. his control was the issue today. serving up meatballs all afternoon

 

Even in his previous start, a lot of pitches were left up in the zone especially later in the inning.

I thought he came away pretty lucky there. Good Bautista karma I guess... just not this time

[BigCecil]

Yes. Worried about stamina problems.

 

He's probably not going to be able to go 5-6+ IP, every 5 days this season.

 

There is no doubt in my mind we can be in the post season but only with another 1/2 arm when that opp crystallizes, and the cost will sting. For now we are ok.

 

Love the kid, but as this season drags on, issues such as Hutch's stamina will become even more magnified.

 

Mark B is going to regress somewhat...RA will be what he is...Happ or Happ-less who knows....Stroman cant be that good (can he?)...I don't bet anything on Morrow.

 

Not quite good enough even with our O and D imo.

[BlueJaysGirl]

Isn't it possible to give him an extra day's rest before EVERY start? Through days off, and guys like Redmond who only pitch once/week anyway, and can spot start (plus the AAA starters like Hendricks), I think it'd be prudent to do this with Hutch. He'd be more effective, and only have ~150 innings pitched by the time the races really heat up in September. Morrow can be another long man if he recovers and pitches again.

[Cooler Heads Prevail]

There is no doubt in my mind we can be in the post season but only with another 1/2 arm when that opp crystallizes, and the cost will sting. For now we are ok.

 

Love the kid, but as this season drags on, issues such as Hutch's stamina will become even more magnified.

 

Mark B is going to regress somewhat...RA will be what he is...Happ or Happ-less who knows....Stroman cant be that good (can he?)...I don't bet anything on Morrow.

 

Not quite good enough even with our O and D imo.

 

I don't agree with this, we can make playoffs even with our current crew, but there is no reason to chance failing when decent pitching rentals will be available at the deadline at a fraction of the cost people are discussing now. I'm not even sure which starter they would cut at this point if they got someone, someone needs to fail to set the correct path. I doubt any of these guys ( Happ, Stroman, Hutch ) would be useful in relief, it would be insulting to them to lose their spots when they are still pitching well ( Hutch is an unusual case, it's more stamina or consistency, the real reason unclear ).

 

We just need a few weeks treading water with these guys and their performance will determine our path. I don't think we need to move one of our big pitching prospects ( + ) for an ace like Price, myself I think we can transition to 2015 and 2016 much better if we have the group Hutch/Stroman/Sanchez/Nolin in our system. If Hutch gets hurt and Stroman gets shelled a few times, I could change my mind on that, but I'd still rather get a rental if our best prospects can be spared. And throughout this season, I am unclear why they have zero confidence in Redmond, in a pinch could he not be a decent 4th/5th starter ? He could be a bridge to some one better if needed.

 

Worse case scenario moving forward, NYY stays close and makes some outrageous pick ups again ( I'm guessing pitchers ). We struggle in our head to head match ups, primarily because of the pitchers I mentioned above. AA hesitates and the full brunt of our issues don't hit until the week after the trading deadline. Sure, it could happen. It's just too much of a perfect storm of negative events though to be likely. Surely AA realizes he needs to get it done this year, and insures success by adding pitching depth at the deadline. But it is AA, so I'm prepared for anything.

Edited June 9, 2014 by Cooler Heads Prevail

[Olerud363]

Isn't it possible to give him an extra day's rest before EVERY start? Through days off, and guys like Redmond who only pitch once/week anyway, and can spot start (plus the AAA starters like Hendricks), I think it'd be prudent to do this with Hutch. He'd be more effective, and only have ~150 innings pitched by the time the races really heat up in September. Morrow can be another long man if he recovers and pitches again.

 

They would need some creativity... but perhaps they could keep Dickey and Buerhle on a regular schedule. Give Hutch and Stroman extra days off whenever possible. Then fill in with Happ, Redmond, Hendricks and Morrow (when he is back) depending on match ups.

[BigCecil]

I don't agree with this, we can make playoffs even with our current crew, but there is no reason to chance failing when decent pitching rentals will be available at the deadline at a fraction of the cost people are discussing now. I'm not even sure which starter they would cut at this point if they got someone, someone needs to fail to set the correct path. I doubt any of these guys ( Happ, Stroman, Hutch ) would be useful in relief, it would be insulting to them to lose their spots when they are still pitching well ( Hutch is an unusual case, it's more stamina or consistency, the real reason unclear ).

 

We just need a few weeks treading water with these guys and their performance will determine our path. I don't think we need to move one of our big pitching prospects ( + ) for an ace like Price, myself I think we can transition to 2015 and 2016 much better if we have the group Hutch/Stroman/Sanchez/Nolin in our system. If Hutch gets hurt and Stroman gets shelled a few times, I could change my mind on that, but I'd still rather get a rental if our best prospects can be spared. And throughout this season, I am unclear why they have zero confidence in Redmond, in a pinch could he not be a decent 4th/5th starter ? He could be a bridge to some one better if needed.

 

Worse case scenario moving forward, NYY stays close and makes some outrageous pick ups again ( I'm guessing pitchers ). We struggle in our head to head match ups, primarily because of the pitchers I mentioned above. AA hesitates and the full brunt of our issues don't hit until the week after the trading deadline. Sure, it could happen. It's just too much of a perfect storm of negative events though to be likely. Surely AA realizes he needs to get it done this year, and insures success by adding pitching depth at the deadline. But it is AA, so I'm prepared for anything.

 

That's a fair enough opinion. I hope you are right. @ this point I don't think you are. I think we would be kidding ourselves to think this rotation will hold up for 162 where we want to be. I don't think a "me too" mid to back end rotation guy helps much.

 

Was looking at Cone's 92 stats regular and post season for us. Although things don't always work out that way he was stabilizing. The price ended up being high but we got a flag.

 

Nothing is going to or has to happen for awhile anyway so lets see how it plays out.

[G-Snarls]

Isn't it possible to give him an extra day's rest before EVERY start? Through days off, and guys like Redmond who only pitch once/week anyway, and can spot start (plus the AAA starters like Hendricks), I think it'd be prudent to do this with Hutch. He'd be more effective, and only have ~150 innings pitched by the time the races really heat up in September. Morrow can be another long man if he recovers and pitches again.

 

I would totally do this, if the team is absolutely convinced that extra days are helping. (it's only been once so far, so hard to tell)

[Angrioter]

Hutchison

Home - Mediocre

Road - Stud

[wilko]

Way too small of a sample to say Hutch has trouble pitching on normal rest. Or that he's bad at home. Or that his velocity is worrisome.

 

Velocity was good today. I don't think he's a K machine like he's been early this season though.

[Chappy]

Velocity was good today. I don't think he's a K machine like he's been early this season though.

 

He will get a good amount of K's, but that's not game.

[Angrioter]

http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=718&d=1402713865

[Statman]

82 innings and counting

7.61k/2.52BB

3.95xFIP

1.2 WAR

 

For a guy that was a total question mark coming into the season, we should be really proud of this kid for what he has done so far.

[G-Snarls]

82 innings and counting

7.61k/2.52BB

3.95xFIP

1.2 WAR

 

For a guy that was a total question mark coming into the season, we should be really proud of this kid for what he has done so far.

 

I'm thrilled with how he's performed

 

If Morrow had done something similar (which he's certainly capable of), I'd be pretty excited about our rotation as a whole actually.

[Candy Maldonado]

stud

[G-Snarls]

stud

 

VERY timely bump sir

 

What a game. AWESOME job Hutch.

[Atothe]

stud

 

lol

[jays76]

Drew Hutchison is Harvey Dent.

[jb22]

82 innings and counting

7.61k/2.52BB

3.95xFIP

1.2 WAR

 

For a guy that was a total question mark coming into the season, we should be really proud of this kid for what he has done so far.

 

Now at:

131.1 IP

8.15k/2.88BB

3.88 FIP/ 4.04 xFIP

2.0 WAR

 

Stud!

[GD]

I really appreciate what Hutchison has done this year. Glad he's on the team.

[Angrioter]

[BTS]

Remember when everyone wanted him shut done because he ran into a stretch of bad luck?

[jays_fever]

lol Who wanted him gone. I stopped reading the main thread quite a bit

[BTS]

lol Who wanted him gone. I stopped reading the main thread quite a bit

 

ECJF for one.

[JFD]

4.51 ERA and he's a stud? we have really high standards..

[JFD]

good bottom rotation guy.

[Chappy]

Hutch and Stroman are going to be a nice young tandem for us for years to come. If one of Norris or Sanchez pan out, we will have 3/5 of a pretty darn good and cheap rotation.

[John_Havok]

At worst he should be a quality 3/4 with a decent chance at being at 2/3. Nothing wrong with developing that out of your system.

[John_Havok]

Hutch is the second best pitcher in our org currently.

 

True, but that really just speaks to the lack of high end pitchers in the org.

[Angrioter]

4.51 ERA and he's a stud? we have really high standards..

 

And you are DrDinger or Dan Straily?

[burlingtonbandit]

He is still underrated. I bet if you ask the casual fan they all rank Sanchez ahead of him. He gives up a lot of flyballs but has great deception on that fastball which leads to a ton of swing and misses.