Jays Verified Member Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 He's pitched about 4 sub par innings in a row in spring training and people are talking like the old Romero is back. lol
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted March 15, 2014 Author Posted March 15, 2014 Ervin Santana and Ubaldo Jimenez never had as horrific a drop off as Romero. He couldn't pitch a clean inning last season if his life depended on it. no but Kasmir did. In 2009 Kasmir posted s 4.89 ERA in 147 innings in the mlb. In 2010 he poste a 5.94 ERA in 150 innings. In 2011 he only pitched 1.2 innings but gave up 5 runs. He also posted a 17.02 ERA in 15.1 minor league innings in 2011. In 2012 he posted a 5.34 ERA in 64 innings in the minors. In 2013 he posted a 4.04 ERA in 158 innings and received a 22 million dollar contract.
fireballW Verified Member Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 There are lots of examples of pitchers going through things like this and then making a comeback. Cliff Lee is one example who lost it after numerous Romero type seasons, was sent down and still sucked, but then the next year became one of the best in the league. Halladay is an example of a guy like Drabek who lost it, started walking as many as he struck out and needed to go back down to the minors. I am not saying these players will do these things. But they happen!! If you close yourself off to the possibility of these things happening, then you are really giving yourself a chance to miss out. If our rotation was full then I get it, but we're talking about guys like Redmond and Rogers potentially blocking guys like Romero or McGowan if they are looking good? AA pinpointed the exact inning in a game that Romero's STUFF (not results) just look a large step up. The next game Romero came out and had a decent outing. Why the hell wouldn't we be open to seeing what he could do. He lost it in a hurry, there is no reason he can't find it again just as fast.
KSaw Verified Member Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 Yes, in 4-5 years they will trade Turner. What do the Jays do in the meantime? There's speculation that they will trade him this year. A few weeks prior to ST, his being moved before opening day was not considered out of the question. It still may not be. They have depth in pitching prospects. This is the Marlins and they have to be very aware that his trade value is best prior to next season, his last at 1 million, his last before being arbitration eligible.
KSaw Verified Member Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 That said they'd likely want a boatload of talent.
kgm1 Verified Member Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 There's speculation that they will trade him this year. A few weeks prior to ST, his being moved before opening day was not considered out of the question. It still may not be. They have depth in pitching prospects. This is the Marlins and they have to be very aware that his trade value is best prior to next season, his last at 1 million, his last before being arbitration eligible. yes there is speculation they will trade young pitching but they want young controlable offensive players close to the majors which is something the jays don't have . i just don't see us matching up
flafson Verified Member Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 yes there is speculation they will trade young pitching but they want young controlable offensive players close to the majors which is something the jays don't have . i just don't see us matching up We have Sierra.
pickoff22 Verified Member Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 For those wondering, I am struggling to find any hope today. YIKES!
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Well this Bandwagon Really crashed. Good thing not a lot of people were on board.
walkoff93 Verified Member Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Well this Bandwagon Really crashed. Good thing not a lot of people were on board. It was a wild ride, for 6 days.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 it was a wild ride, for 6 innings. ftfy
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 nice avatar for the playoff run Sammy
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 nice avatar for the playoff run Sammy She maybe a short run but I don't miss many games lol.
walkoff93 Verified Member Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Ouch.....(5 walks) IP H R ER BB SO HR 2.2 3 3 3 5 0 1 sorry...the formatting got messed up
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 I was at the game vs Prince George about a month or two ago (Calvert bobblehead night) It was fun to watch Edmonds and Harkins. Wish I could get out to more games, although I dont live there but being a Jets season ticket holder eases the pain a bit lol I bet it does I have only made it in to a couple jets games but being able to go to a lot of Wheaties games does not ease the pain much.
Olerud363 Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 So this idea is over yes? 5BB 1HBP 0K in 2.2 IP Is this an injury?? What the hell. I've always been a believer that he could come back. A pitcher is just a very complicated machine. If the body breaks it may not be fixable but you can at least identify what happened. If the computer breaks (the mind) again may not be fixable but atleast you should be able to identify what happened. Did I miss something?? What the hell happened?? Did something physical just go?? If it's mental are they atleast epxerimenting with every psycho somatic drug known to man. I get that "Steve Blass Disease" is a thing, kind of. But you think it would better defined by now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Blass#Steve_Blass_Disease
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 You can't base anything off of spring stats guys, you've all said it yourselves. Ricky's poor performance this March means nothing going forward. What matters is that Pete Walker has fixed his mechanics and thus Ricky will be a dependable #4 starter for the Blue Jays this year.
Anemic0ffense Verified Member Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 An 11/6 BB/K with a HBP is bad, right? AA likes what he sees....... must mean more than us armchair GM's, right?
pickoff22 Verified Member Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 An 11/6 BB/K with a HBP is bad, right? Running it through my spreadsheet. I'll get back to you.
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2014 Author Posted March 18, 2014 I got some road rash jumping off that bandwagon, but I've learned my lesson.
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2014 Author Posted March 18, 2014 It's going to be interesting to see how AA responds. 3 innings ago he was running his mouth about how good Rick looked. Will he actually do a 180 after one spring start? Nolin-gate suggests that he will I guess. AA running his mouth. You really do hate the guy. Ricky did some positive things, is a GM suppose to slam his players in spring training? He was terrible today...move on. We're stuck with Happ, Remond an Rogers. We need better, but it's what we have for now.
wilko Old-Timey Member Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 We need better, but it's what we have for now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-Q7b-vHY3Q
Maahfaace Verified Member Posted March 22, 2014 Posted March 22, 2014 Is ricky's little brother Gabriel still with the organization?
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted March 22, 2014 Posted March 22, 2014 No, they just drafted him as a favor to Ricky. He never played a game in the minors at all.
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