reedjohnsonfan Verified Member Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Zaun was saying Posey chose to be a catcher, if the Giants can't live without his bat they should move him to a different position. Being a catcher and blocking the plate is a good way to contribute when you're not hitting well. He has a point. It's been around forever and now they want to change it? He claims that if Josh Thole or Jose Molina got hurt and not Posey, they wouldn't even have changed the rule.
reedjohnsonfan Verified Member Posted February 25, 2014 Author Posted February 25, 2014 Also it's are not a, stupid HP laptop with a terrible keyboard.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 What an idiotic comment. Catchers get blown out knees and concussions all the time from collisions, it's not just Buster Posey... or Carlos Santana... or Yasmani Grandal.
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Blame it on escalating salaries and insurance costs. Like the NFL with QBs, the league's trying to protect players.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Meh, its just his opinion. No need to get mad people
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 What an idiotic comment. Catchers get blown out knees and concussions all the time from collisions, it's not just Buster Posey... or Carlos Santana... or Yasmani Grandal. They're all marketing it as the 'Posey' rule though, I think that's his point
bigpaulie Verified Member Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Wondering if they will go to the double first base like softball, cause that will be the next area for collisions, then it will be the double play break-up slides guys do. Its been around for years, why is it an issue now? catchers have broken legs before and the rule stayed the same, why now?
KSaw Verified Member Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Not a huge fan of the rule as it is worded but really, runners shouldn't be laying out catchers if there is a path to the plate. If its completely blocked, drill him. That's my opinion anyway.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 I like that the rules will prevent unnecessary collisions, but I think that catchers should have the option to block the plate in key situations. Seeing which players are willing to step up and put their body on the line for a win is a part of sports that I enjoy. It's like blocking shots in hockey, going the extra mile for your teammates. I'm not going to criticize those with a different opinion, player safety is also important. It's just what I enjoy watching.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Zaun was saying Posey chose to be a catcher, if the Giants can't live without his bat they should move him to a different position. Being a catcher and blocking the plate is a good way to contribute when you're not hitting well. He has a point. It's been around forever and now they want to change it? He claims that if Josh Thole or Jose Molina got hurt and not Posey, they wouldn't even have changed the rule. I agree that Posey getting hurt was what spurred the change. However, that doesn't mean it's a bad change. Once enacted the rule is going to protect all Catchers, not just the stars.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 "Zaun was saying Posey chose to be a catcher, if the Giants can't live without his bat they should move him to a different position. Being a catcher and blocking the plate is a good way to contribute when you're not hitting well." This argument has some logic and sense. Now the catcher's defense pass from +12.5 runs to +10 runs ; catchers like: Thole, Kratz, AJ Jimenez have slightly less value.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Wondering if they will go to the double first base like softball, cause that will be the next area for collisions, then it will be the double play break-up slides guys do. Its been around for years, why is it an issue now? catchers have broken legs before and the rule stayed the same, why now? Slavery had been around for millennia, why did it suddenly become an issue? Millions of people died to it, but it remained, why get rid of it now?
TheHurl Site Manager Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 I can't stand the "it's been this way for years" mentality. I've gone through this argument with people in football, hockey and even other baseball arguments. I'd just kick Zaun in the groin and say that no one will care as his groin region is essentially the JPA of groins.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Also it's are not a, stupid HP laptop with a terrible keyboard. Fixed for you
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 I like that the rules will prevent unnecessary collisions, but I think that catchers should have the option to block the plate in key situations. They can still block the plate, they just can't do it without the ball. It's a very reasonable change. It won't eliminate collisions entirely but it will eliminate the completely unnecesary ones.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Then again, while I find home plate collisions completely silly and superfluous, apparently my pitching past has made me a hypocrite, as I have high regard for using a good plunking as a governing measure. Nothing like drilling a fastball into the ribs of some punk-ass smack-talker and then waiting for him to make a move to the mound so you can rear-naked choke him out. Pretty sure I would do that, first pitch, every time Lawrie came to the plate. He has a neon sign over his head which reads "I want to be beaten." Eh, personal opinion obviously, but I much prefer giving it a little extra oomph and just trying to K the guy, or in other sports just one upping them in whatever way you please. Like nailing a jumper on some s*** talker's head. I find the "oooooooohs" from the crowd and talking s*** back preferable to hurting the guy. Then again, I punched a guy my last basketball game so what do I know lol.
theblujay Verified Member Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Eh, personal opinion obviously, but I much prefer giving it a little extra oomph and just trying to K the guy, or in other sports just one upping them in whatever way you please. Like nailing a jumper on some s*** talker's head. I find the "oooooooohs" from the crowd and talking s*** back preferable to hurting the guy. Then again, I punched a guy my last basketball game so what do I know lol. lol
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 in an era where we all want judgement calls taken out of the game, this adds a new one and will just be one more thing to argue over.
AdamGreenwood Old-Timey Member Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 I agree with Zaun. If you can't handle getting hit, you can't handle baseball. In fact, baseball took a downturn in 1877, when some cowards started wearing masks. Prior to that, the padded glove was the mark of the coward. If Zaun and I had our way, catchers would be catching the ball barehanded with no protective equipment. That's what real men do.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 I can't stand the "it's been this way for years" mentality. I've gone through this argument with people in football, hockey and even other baseball arguments. I'd just kick Zaun in the groin and say that no one will care as his groin region is essentially the JPA of groins. Exactly. I'm sure all these arguments were put forth back when batting helmets came out and the warning track was mandated. We take those safety measures as just part of the game because we grew up not knowing any different. It's just because this change is happening in the midst of our fandom that it's a big deal for some. I like the change, but really, if you're going to do a rule change as a test, why not try it in the minors first and see how it goes so you can adjust any obvious flaws before you put it in the majors?
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 I agree with Zaun. If you can't handle getting hit, you can't handle baseball. In fact, baseball took a downturn in 1877, when some cowards started wearing masks. Prior to that, the padded glove was the mark of the coward. If Zaun and I had our way, catchers would be catching the ball barehanded with no protective equipment. That's what real men do. This the first thing you've ever said that I agree with. Love the snark too. Grade A
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