Slot Machine Verified Member Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Is the NFL supposed to blacklist every player who has a run-in with the law? There has to be a line draw somewhere -- why does the NFL need to be the most morally-upstanding organization in our society? I'm okay with Peterson being back. Maybe if he gets convicted of something tack on an official suspension. Yeah, pretty much. It seems society holds the NFL to a higher standard than the Justice System though.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I'm sure bigger NFL fans than me will already know this, but I had no idea that Adrian Peterson had already lost a child when his 2 year old son was beaten by the mother's boyfriend. About a year ago. Yep; that was a very strange story. Apparently he had never actually met that child. He only meets with this beaten child occasionally, which makes me skeptical of the "it's just normal father-son discipline" idea. The mom lets the kid visit Peterson, and he comes back beaten and emotionally distressed. Not sure what kind of relationship AP thinks he's building with this kid.
CHRIS Verified Member Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 He only meets with this beaten child occasionally, which makes me skeptical of the "it's just normal father-son discipline" idea. I didn't know this either, but it makes one of the quotes I read where the child calls him "Daddy Peterson" make more sense. It will be interesting to see what kind of reaction he gets leading up to Sunday.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I didn't know this either, but it makes one of the quotes I read where the child calls him "Daddy Peterson" make more sense. It will be interesting to see what kind of reaction he gets leading up to Sunday. I am heading down to Minneapolis on friday so i am interested to see the local impression there.
CHRIS Verified Member Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I am heading down to Minneapolis on friday so i am interested to see the local impression there. Prediction: someone alters a jersey from "Peterson" to "Beaturson"
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Prediction: someone alters a jersey from "Peterson" to "Beaturson" Sounds about right.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I know, it's terrible. But is the solution to just ban all these guys indefinitely? I'm okay with the NFL waiting for more information to come out re: the Peterson case. IMO public figures shouldn't be held to higher standards than everyone else. They should be held to the same standards.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Well s*** http://i.imgur.com/75E2rsa.png The incompetence of the Vikings is beyond me. YOU JUST SAW A PR BLOWUP LAST WEEK yet you think it is a good idea for the player to play football. Sponsorship seems to be pulling out which will get the attention of the owner.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 They shut down the Vikings message board because of all the outrage. Crazy!
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 I don't know folks, I had my ass whooped as a child, being in my early 40's and all it was normal. Was followed up with a grounding because I was a handful. This dude is beating 3 and 4 year olds, leaving scars and visual injuries, while sticking leaves in the kids mouth, there's an obvious abuse track record. Ray Rice gets caught on tape, he's out indefinitely? There's something very wrong here? Man up Goodell. There are signs of serious sadism here that hint that despite what Peterson claims this wasn't really about parenting at all. If you are going to make a show of policing these things, you can't go half way. That's why Ray Rice blew up and this is a similar scenario. Nothing has changed between last week and this week. The rationale for bringing him back would have applied just as much then and similarly whatever reason you had to not play him last week still applies. If you're going to police personal conduct, you need some stricter guidelines in place or you just end up looking like a hypocrite.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 I don't know folks, I had my ass whooped as a child, being in my early 40's and all it was normal. Was followed up with a grounding because I was a handful. This dude is beating 3 and 4 year olds, leaving scars and visual injuries, while sticking leaves in the kids mouth, there's an obvious abuse track record. Ray Rice gets caught on tape, he's out indefinitely? There's something very wrong here? Man up Goodell. I hate when people in the media say I got whooped when I was a kid...Well you know what? Hitting kids to disciplining them isn't right, just like slavery wasn't right but was done in the past. Also, this is a 4 year old child, not a 10 year old. You would think having another kid being beat to death by another man would give you a wake up call that hitting a child is not right.
CHRIS Verified Member Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Reggie Bush supports Adrian Peterson. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/reggie-bush-defends-adrian-peterson-harshly-discipline-one-year-old-daughter-article-1.1941572 Bush spoke out in favor of the embattled Vikings star Tuesday on WFAN's "Boomer and Carton" show, claiming the severe discipline Peterson meted out to his son was similar to what he experienced as a child. 'I got what we call whoopings.' I get that this was once considered a somewhat normal way of instilling discipline, but that doesn't mean it still should be. It shouldn't be some nostalgic rite of passage. The most baffling thing to me is how so many people are using the term "discipline" interchangeably with spanking/whoopings/beatings, as if it is impossible to discipline your children without resorting to violence. I think the biggest problem is that there are plenty of people who suffered spankings/beatings while growing up and ended up not being *******s, and have likely confused causation with correlation. My guess is that in addition to the beatings, these people also received good non-violent life advice (whether they realize it or not), and that is the real reason they were able to grow up and not be *******s, despite, not because of, the beatings.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 There's a debate to be had on the merits of spanking but bringing it up in this context just confuses the issue. Even those who condone spanking would qualify this is as way over the top. The fact that it was so extreme and that he (reportedly) gloated about it suggests that this wasn't a father reluctantly imposing discipline like he'd like us to believe but rather a case of someone taking a rather perverse pride in the abuse of a child.
CHRIS Verified Member Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Yeah, the TLDR version is pretty much that Adrian Peterson ain't hooked up right.
AdamGreenwood Old-Timey Member Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 The NFL has zero tolerance for spousal abuse if it has been caught on tape in its entirety and been made public. The NFL also has zero tolerance for killing and torturing animals for the exact length of time the offender is incarcerated.
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 There's a debate to be had on the merits of spanking but bringing it up in this context just confuses the issue. Even those who condone spanking would qualify this is as way over the top. The fact that it was so extreme and that he (reportedly) gloated about it suggests that this wasn't a father reluctantly imposing discipline like he'd like us to believe but rather a case of someone taking a rather perverse pride in the abuse of a child. I feel this is a key point that is being missed by some. Spanking /= smacking with a stick.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 I know this isn't the NFL, though did anyone see this play? http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/98927/watch-player-plays-dead-during-fake-punt
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 I said "why's that" when you asked where Goodell was on the subject. I wish the league and team would say "we're letting the courts handle the incident and at the conclusion of the case we'll take action." And even if Rice & Peterson were to serve jail time, I'd put money on it there would still be groups pushing for the players to not play another game.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 So the Vikings reversed their decision and now are sitting Peterson. At least they made the right decision but holy f*** were they ever stupid. They don't even care about the actual charge but as soon as sponsors start suspending their sponsorship they take new action. Terrible Organization.
CHRIS Verified Member Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 Oh boy. Here's the link to the Reggie Bush interview: http://deadspin.com/reggie-bush-admits-to-harshly-disciplining-his-1-year-1635845101/all I most definitely discipline my daughter. I have a 1-year-old daughter, and I discipline her. Obviously, every person is different, and I definitely will use my best judgement to discipline her depending on the situation and what happens. I definitely will try to obviously not leave bruises or anything like that on her, but I definitely will discipline her, harshly, depending on what the situation is. What on earth could a 1 year old do that could possible warrant this kind of discipline? Try not to leave bruises...on a baby? Two things I find unbelievable: 1. Reggie Bush thinks this is reasonable parenting 2. Reggie Bush discussing this in public as casually as if he's talking about the weather
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 Reggie Bush also dated Kim Kardashian for a while, he's not all there in the head
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 Oh boy. Here's the link to the Reggie Bush interview: http://deadspin.com/reggie-bush-admits-to-harshly-disciplining-his-1-year-1635845101/all What on earth could a 1 year old do that could possible warrant this kind of discipline? Try not to leave bruises...on a baby? Two things I find unbelievable: 1. Reggie Bush thinks this is reasonable parenting 2. Reggie Bush discussing this in public as casually as if he's talking about the weather Hum... I'm not exactaly Doctor Spock here, heck I've never even had chidren but I'm pretty sure corporal punishment on a one year old is pointless.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 Kim Kardashian dated reggie bush also for a while, she's not all there in the head ftfy
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 How else could you possibly control a one year old girl besides hitting her? The f*** is wrong with these guys.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 I must be a sick f*** because I loled really hard at that.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 Man the NFL has become a circus over the last couple of weeks with all this BS.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 Man the NFL has become a circus over the last couple of weeks with all this BS. It was always a circus but social media has now been quick to jump on the NFL's tactics.
Nox Verified Member Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 Man the NFL has become a circus over the last couple of weeks with all this BS. And yet the ratings have hit record highs. The league is not in trouble....at all...despite what all these mouthpieces on ESPN want us to believe. I think most people are rational enough to not let a few *******s ruin the entire sport for them. Goodell's run should probably be over now though.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 Goodell's run should probably be over now though. The owners like Goodell but it will be pretty hard for them to keep him when dumping him provides such an easy out. The nex commish's task will be to revise the personal conduct policy which ironically was pretty much the first thing Goodell did when he first took over. Put in the new guy until he has his own P.R. fiasco. Rinse, repeat, print money.
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