eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Calvin Johnson might be good at football.
immature Verified Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 "For all we know he told his wife not to testify or he would be the s*** out her again." If you actually believe this, then there really is no point in arguing with you. He has now married his girlfriend, she has acknowledged the role she played in the dispute and apologized, and neither of them pressed charges against one another. The kid worked his whole life to get to the NFL. In a heated moment he makes a mistake and both him and his now wife realize its not worth jepordizing his career over and don't go to the police. I actually wouldn't be surprised if this was his wife's idea. But of course the perversely motivated media and heavy hand of the law come in, ruin this kids life and ironically punish his wife who never wanted Ray suspended.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 "For all we know he told his wife not to testify or he would be the s*** out her again." If you actually believe this, then there really is no point in arguing with you. Obviously he doesn't believe this since he said "For all we know". He doesn't believe or not believe. He's just speculating just like your speculating when you say "I wouldn't be surprised if this was his wife's idea". Nice reading comprehension, hypocrite.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 It's funny how there are no bad people in the world anymore. Just good people who make mistakes.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 It's funny how there are no bad people in the world anymore. Just good people who make mistakes. We're all just human. I can't even count the "heated moments" I had as a "kid" where I made a "mistake" and cold clocked someone.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 We're all just human. I can't even count the "heated moments" I had as a "kid" where I made a "mistake" and cold clocked someone. I know what you mean. I'm young and do stupid stuff from time to time. But beating your fiancee unconscious is more than just a bad moment of judgement IMO.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 I know what you mean. I'm young and do stupid stuff from time to time. But beating your fiancee unconscious is more than just a bad moment of judgement IMO. Equating domestic abuse with typical youthful indiscretions is some pretty scary excuse making. Outside of men's rights movements, it's hardly normal behaviour, young or not.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 She can enable him as much as she wants, it won't change my opinion on Ray Rice. It's nothing new for people in abusive relationships to do this and it doesn't excuse anything. I don't wish them success in their relationship. No relationship is worth the abuse she took. Harbaugh and anyone else who wishes them success in their relationship can just f*** off as far as I am concerned.
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 This is why the legal system should not rely on people "pressing charges". He did what he did, even if she forgives him.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 This is why the legal system should not rely on people "pressing charges". He did what he did, even if she forgives him. + one million
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 The thing is Ray Rice isn't a "kid". He's 27 years old and has been a man for a long time.
Caper Verified Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 She can enable him as much as she wants, it won't change my opinion on Ray Rice. It's nothing new for people in abusive relationships to do this and it doesn't excuse anything. I don't wish them success in their relationship. No relationship is worth the abuse she took. Harbaugh and anyone else who wishes them success in their relationship can just f*** off as far as I am concerned. I don't think you can blankly say that at all. They have a kid. It's not about just her or him any more.... Nor do I believe a person cannot change. I've seen it more then once. Maybe she should gtfo take half his money and run (though I'm sure there is a prenup)... Maybe she knows him better then we do and she should stay. He's not a kid either.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 I don't think you can blankly say that at all. They have a kid. It's not about just her or him any more.... Nor do I believe a person cannot change. I've seen it more then once. If they have s a kid, that's all the more reason to drop his ass as far as I'm concerned. If he changes that's great but there's no reason to stand by him while he does.
Caper Verified Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 If they have s a kid, that's all the more reason to drop his ass as far as I'm concerned. If he changes that's great but there's no reason to stand by him while he does. Why not? She has the right to pursue happiness as much as anyone else... and if being with him makes her happy she should do that.
immature Verified Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Me and wife came home from a party one time. We were both highly intoxicated and not thinking straight. Emotions were running high and she ended up swinging at me. I was angry and instinctively swung back and knocked her unconsciousness. Right after the fact I felt very bad and wished I could take the punch back. When my wife awoke she took a glass of water and talked things over, we both acknowledged that we made a mistake but also realized tiredness and drinking played a role. We discussed the root of the problem and felt the next day that are marriage was stronger. Unfortunately there was someone outside our window the entire time. He taped the whole thing and sent it to my boss. The next day I was fired, my wife who was the initial victim feels as if she has been attacked twice...
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Why not? She has the right to pursue happiness as much as anyone else... and if being with him makes her happy she should do that. If she believes the pursuit of happiness goes through staying with a man who beats her, that's her mistake to make but I don't see why anyone should support that decision. That's not wishing the best for her.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Unfortunately there was someone outside our window the entire time. He taped the whole thing and sent it to my boss. The next day I was fired, my wife who was the initial victim feels as if she has been attacked twice... Should have sent it to the police not your boss.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Should have sent it to the police not your boss. Maybe i am just a pussy but i have been with my Fiancee for 7 going on 8 years and been in a lot of fights and have never once though of hitting her. I think something has to be severely wrong with you to hit someone you apparently love.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Maybe i am just a pussy but i have been with my Fiancee for 7 going on 8 years and been in a lot of fights and have never once though of hitting her. I think something has to be severely wrong with you to hit someone you apparently love. Well some couples are pretty intense in the way they fight. They hurl a lot of emotional abuse and things escalate. I may argue emotionally but I don't resort to personal attacks. Those things are always worse than whatever the source of the argument is in the first place and they leave deeper scars. That being said, I shouldn't be so categorical about what they should do as a couple. We should wish the best for her independantley of any caveats about whether it's in the couple or not. I don't agree that we should wish for them to work it out as a couple. The best way to work it out could very well not involve them being a couple and that should be acknowledged. The sanctity of marriage is overrated. Personal security and well being comes first. Wish her the best. Respect her decisions whatever they are and call him out as the animal that he is.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 LMAO, the f*** is this? We are going in a different direction with the Forum.. Its like confessional in church. He now has to do 30 "Hail Lawries" and 10 " Holy f***s".
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 LMAO, the f*** is this? Goodguy neighbourhood peeping tom. lmao. It's some guy whos full of s*** and is attempting to defend Rice just because
immature Verified Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 lmao. It's some guy whos full of s*** and is attempting to defend Rice just because Thanks for your valuable input. You certainly bring a lot to the discussion.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Roger making his first public appearance. Coincidence he is going on with a TV station that just signed a massive deal to broadcast the Thursday Night games? http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cbs-news-gets-first-roger-goodell-interview-on-ray-rice-suspension_b238443
GD Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Random football related vent. Turns out I f***ing hate playing offensive line.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Why would you be playing OL? That's where they stick the fat kids, no offense if you're fat.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Maybe i am just a pussy but i have been with my Fiancee for 7 going on 8 years and been in a lot of fights and have never once though of hitting her. I think something has to be severely wrong with you to hit someone you apparently love. You still haven't married your Fiancee after 8 years? Smart man.
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 I'm not defending Rice but I think we've all been in a situation where a woman is just going f***ing nuts on us and you'd love to just open hand her. Of course my better judgment would always win out and I would never follow through but I could see someone slipping up in a fit of rage. Like what are you supposed to do if a woman is attacking you? If you shove her to the ground it's just going to make her even angrier.
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 I was in line a few years ago at a nightclub and a guy was there with his coworkers (I think wives were tagging along). The woman was drunk as s*** and was clearly embarrassing him. It looked like he told her to quiet down and she proceed to kick him in the nuts and gouge him in the eyes. The bouncer did nothing. The guy got up and stumbled towards her in an aggressive way (didn't look like he was going to hit her but he was pissed) and the bouncer f***ing spears the guy (like prime WCW Goldberg from the 90s). The guy ended up getting arrested in front of his coworkers. I didn't know him but I'm assuming he also lost his job. Would you seriously want to burn the guy at the stake if he slipped up and slapped her?
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Thanks for your valuable input. You certainly bring a lot to the discussion. ... says an obvious troll whose handle is "immature".
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