Adam Lind takes his own shots at Zaun and Hayhurst

[dineke]

There's a whole lot of dumb on this team.

[fatcowxlive]

just shut up and win games, holy f***...

 

also another one of my pet peeves are celebrities that 'brag' about visiting sick kids and s*** like that. like i get it, you do some charity work, you don't have to f***ing announce every god damn time you do it. i swear to god it's gotten to a point where i can't tell if jpa genuinely cares about the kids or if he's just doing it to get a good reputation

 

Hahaha you know what's funny? Our players can't do either thing!

[Dick_Pole]

There's a whole lot of dumb on this team.

 

For some reason I misread that as "There's a whole lot of cum on this team." at first. I must have been too use to reading your posts in the 37 page thread.

[Buster]

These past 2 seasons have been a crash course that things like Charachter, professionalism and hard work really matter in pro sports. It prolly even matters more in a sport like baseball where you have to spend basically everyday of the week with these players. If this was a video game and the overall team was ranked on categories like Talent, upside they'd fare well but they would rank at the absolute bottom if there was a category classified as "intangibles". Man you just watch teams like STL or DET and they just go about their business. No shennigans. No dancing and silly celebrating. No constant off the field problems. I remember my uncle once telling me (who runs his how company) that he would rather a bunch of hard working consistant workers over more talented but lazy ones. We basically have a high maintenance roster. A tons of guys who "if everything goes right" could be stars. We just dont have enough solid day in day out PROS. I cant recall watching a pro sports team that seemed so immature and selfish but whats more worrisome is it doesnt even look like management thinks its a issue and they just allow this behavior to continue without anyone laying down the hammer.

 

I think it all starts with AA. He just doesnt seem cutout to be a lead dog. His inability to put together a consistant functioning team after this many years is hard to believe.

 

That's AA's declared plan. He feels that there was a market arbitrage opportunity with players that had trouble in other organizations - Escobar, Rasmus, etc.

 

I've said it before, I'm not sure you can win a marathon 162 game season with a core of Latin players, for exactly the reasons you say. It's not a racist or bigoted statement, but rather an identification of different cultural norms. But when your clubhouse starts to get dominated by Loviste, media blowups, giggling at errors, showboating at shortstop (Escobar), arguing with the umps incessantly ("I'm passionate about my performance!"), then you get what we have.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

That's AA's declared plan. He feels that there was a market arbitrage opportunity with players that had trouble in other organizations - Escobar, Rasmus, etc.

 

I've said it before, I'm not sure you can win a marathon 162 game season with a core of Latin players, for exactly the reasons you say. It's not a racist or bigoted statement, but rather an identification of different cultural norms. But when your clubhouse starts to get dominated by Loviste, media blowups, giggling at errors, showboating at shortstop (Escobar), arguing with the umps incessantly ("I'm passionate about my performance!"), then you get what we have.

 

Everyone is thinking the same.

 

Just not politically correct to say it.

[Nox]

That's AA's declared plan. He feels that there was a market arbitrage opportunity with players that had trouble in other organizations - Escobar, Rasmus, etc.

 

Lol @ thinking AA has the slightest clue what an arbitrage opportunity would look like. The logic was more likely "Toolz! Upside! Buy!!"

[TheHurl]

Lol @ thinking AA has the slightest clue what an arbitrage opportunity would look like. The logic was more likely "Toolz! Upside! Buy!!"

 

No experience in the game so the players shouldn't respect him, yet they appear to. Meanwhile he probably fits best into the "never played the game so he has no clue" category. Of course he listens to guys that played the game for 100 years so that must help his Lind Cred

[Auldphartt]

I wonder if either of these two self-centered crybabies even bothered to talk to the team's public relations department before shooting their mouths off.

 

Or don't they realize it's a team game?

[JaysFan4Ever]

It seems like there won't be any punishment coming so they'll do it and get away with it. They won't even tell Lawrie to calm down a bit when striking out. The front office seems to have a sit back and do nothing policy except claim it's handled "in house" and was "a one time thing."

 

Instead of admitting they're playing like crap they have to take it out on someone. How about be professional and say how you don't agree, here's why, and not take shots at the media, analysts etc. If they're so hurt by a couple of nobodies that they don't have respect for, then why feed into it? Don't call someone out as being unprofessional and then do the same thing. You're public figures. Act like it. You get paid a lot of money and have expectations. If you can't handle it, walk away. You want to shut them up, play better. If you're playing top notch and they still complain ignore them. Easier said than done sometimes but stop making excuses and being little teenagers about it and man the hell up. It doesn't take a 5 time MVP, Hall of Famer to know the team is playing horrendously and certain players, especially the ones being touted as the team's core and who self promote, need to be better. Adam Lind is having a nice turn around but considering he's about a year removed from being sent outright where no other team wanted him, really shouldn't be mouthing off. You think someone else is out of line in their comments, don't sink to the level you think they're at. But I guess egos are bruised.

[pewpewpewjays]

Only thing I can agree from that 12 min video is that "it is hard to grow a good fanbase when all they hear is negativity."

 

and guess why us fans only hear about negative things? CUS JAYS AS A PRO BASEBALL TEAM SUCK.

 

I was actually thinking that the whole broadcast team was being way to optimistic when they were saying jays can still turn it around, lind has finally found it, dickey and MB is back to their form and etc. For how the jays are doing as a team, I would have to say they weren't getting enough criticisms and if they were getting any, it wasn't very effective. Now JP chooses to go on TV to illustrate that he does not care for what other people have to say as long as he tries to improve and takes pride in what he can do.

 

What do you supposed to do as a sports broadcaster when a team loses? Desperately find reasons to be happy to boost player's confidence despite the loss OR fulfill the viewer's curiosity as to why this team is losing and what they could be doing to stop losing? If JP is as competitive as he claims to be, he should be very open to any criticism at this point if he "realizes that he has been performing way below expectations" for some time now.

 

This is just a shitshow I would imagine happening with team of teens and I would probably still make fun of how immature those teens are......

 

I will have to find a way to start liking hockey or some other sports..........

[bronson44]

I think JP legitimately believes that these guys are poisoning the fanbase against him, when realistically they are only now starting to speak for the majority of it.

[connorp]

Do you ever notice how often professional athletes judge either other by how many rings they have? I mean, do they do that because they want to look good from a PR perspective or do a good amount of players really judge like that?

[Dude]

Do you ever notice how often professional athletes judge either other by how many rings they have? I mean, do they do that because they want to look good from a PR perspective or do a good amount of players really judge like that?

 

Poor people value family friends

 

Middle class value material possessions, "keepin up with the joneses"

 

Wealthy people value uniqueness and rarity

 

Going by this logic it wouldn;t surprise me. Obviously this is a generalization but I think it fits.

[Ehh]

What the hell are they supposed to talk about then. The team has underperformed. JP has had a terrible year outside of HR's. It's pathetic to watch these major leaguers whine about being picked on

[fapaholic]

[Slot Machine]

Poor people value family friends

 

Middle class value material possessions, "keepin up with the joneses"

 

Wealthy people value uniqueness and rarity

 

Going by this logic it wouldn;t surprise me. Obviously this is a generalization but I think it fits.

 

I was going to argue that the fans push this narrative as much as anymore, then I thought for a moment and I decided it really isn't. Most of the time its the analyst's that push this, and I think its not so much that they value rarity but the fact that a lot of them are just idiots, and using rings is the quickest/laziest way to form an argument. It really has become almost a another Godwin's Law to me.

 

I know its a bit of a strawman but if I take that argument to its logical conclusion I could argue that Terry Bradshaw is better than Peyton Manning, afterall 4 is a lot more than 1.

[Errorcebia]

He should be thankful that the media gave him a free pass for being terrible for 3 straight seasons. I will never understand how he got away with being so bad.